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3c. I moved a cap to the top and pushed some parts higher on the board. But its a really the same thing, just a slightly different layout.

Try Raiden or joystick test rom and try left /down (diagonal) with black keypad button controller. You have Gray keypad button controllers in the picture. They are not the same.

Thick cord ones tend to be the Gray controllers. Just look at the keypad button color.

Has anyone tried to produce a new drop in d-pad for the black button Jag controller? If yes, any luck with making the diagonals work better? Mainly down and left is hard to engage, but it would be neat if it worked better for the all the diagonals.

Not sure it would work with this game. I'm making a Twin Stick for Total Carnage. Twin Stick will have rapid fire for games like Raiden too.

I was making a Gray controller today and wow. I was really amazed how good Raiden felt with the dpad. Hitting the corners was not bad at all. I thought it was quite good. I can now make it past stage 3 with single life. This game was meant to have rapid fire.

I've modded 4 Starwander Pro Controllers (SPC) today. I'm going to re-write the installation instructions to perform the steps even better. I have 7 Pro Controllers left to sell, then I'm likely to switch to Twin Stick project. Once hockey starts (Sept) I'll most likely take a step back from projects until next summer. So if you want one this year I would recommend not waiting because hockey will get super busy and use up free time. I can now make it to stage 3 without losing a ship in Raiden, much more fun to play with rapid fire.

Production pcb works fine. Built one controller tonight. Will build up a bunch of pcbs tomorrow.

Production pcbs are here. I'm going to test them out tomorrow. If they look good I should be shipping controllers/kits out towards the end of the week.

What button color? Clear/White red Red Clear /Black Clear/Red Black

I highly recommend people test the Starwander Pro Controller before modding. I found one today with wire 12/left and wire 14/up with a short on the top pcb where the ribbon cable connects. The up/left issue sort of looked like the pcb leveling issue, however if you remove the pcbs from the controller and just press the rubber pad for up it would press up & left on the Jaguar joystick test program. Re-flowing the solder for these two wires cleared the short. There was also a small metal piece inside the controller. All very fixable, but much easier to do before modding. So far quite a few of the Starwander Pro Controllers have stripped internal screws. The one most at fault is the single screw holding the top pcb in. This does not matter as long as the screw can be placed in the hole and does not fall out, because the back of the controller case presses and prevents the top pcb from fall backwards into the controller. The same is true for the bottom pcb as well. Please understand this has nothing to do with the RF 2.0 kit, but since people will be opening these controllers and modding them I'm trying to provide as much details about them as possible.

Cases, joysticks, etc are here for the first batch. Top panels arrive tomorrow. I still need to order some parts, but its getting closer.

Parts from Digikey arrived. Production PCBs should arrive on July 27th. If everything goes right I'll start shipping next week.

They use a different plastic housing.

You would add a second Jaguar game controller PCB with its db15 cord. I'll check to see if there is space for it. The problem is that is not how the Total Carnage works, so you would also need to add a switch to select which input the 2nd joystick is connected to based on the twin stick game you are playing. Namely the first controllers keypad or the second controllers d-pad. Its shame Lamatron did not do what Total Carnage did as the Total Carnage joystick configuration makes for a less complex device which is cheaper, requires less hardware, less cabling, uses less ports on the console, etc. Total Carnage came out first, so the controller template for a twin stick game was already there. Missed opportunity. Now if someone said they wanted 50 Twin Sticks a pcb could be produced to do this, but for 1-5 Twinsticks its just makes no sense unless someone wants to pay for the development of it. Dev cost would be around $400 and then each twin stick would be around $40 more than it already is.

Price is going to be $300 + shipping Base controller case is used, all other parts are new. Top panel is made from 304 stainless steel Custom TC arcade overlay, at this time there will not be an alternate/less busy overlay. Movement joystick can be on the left or right, this is the 1st joystick (Seimitsu LS-33) 2nd joystick (Seimitsu LS-33) comes with Octogate or square gate. Octogate helps to keep a certain direction in Total Carnage game. Comes stock with Jag RF 2.0 for button B, 5-9 cycles per second (6) Seimitsu 24mm push buttons (2) black 30mm balltops Does not support twin sticks for use with Lamatron game. Please confirm you still want to order. Starting to ship in ~4 weeks.

One issue all Twin Sticks will have is that the stainless steel top can be seen around the edge of the overlay. The overlay artwork/sticker is hand cut by the guy who makes them and depending on the day its slightly too big, too small, or just perfect. Plan is to place rapid fire led to the left of PAUSE text or to the right of OPTION text. Which looks better? I like RF led left of Pause text. Twin stick can be purchased with left hand movement or right hand movement. So in the right hand movement case the RF button moves to the other side. Make sense? For Raiden rapid fire joystick use: You can see where RF button goes. So left hand is on left joystick. Right hand on B button. Left hand can press the RF button during game play with a finger. RF button will look like all the other buttons, 24mm Seimitsu.

If 8 CPS works well then stick with it. If not try 7

I'm having trouble finding a panel mount 7-segment display. I might need to use a red led like I'm doing for the Jag rapid fire 2.0 kit. Using the led indicator will reduce cost and I'll be able to ship the Twin Stick sooner.

I now have access to post 1 for edits. So I wrote up most of the details there. I also posted install instructions and photos. Let me know of corrections needed.

Did you press RF button 3 times for 7 CPS? BSG = 5 Raiden red shot = 6 Zero 5 shot = 7 Trevor McFur = 9

They are different.

Or just buy a rapid fire controller or kit from me

Are you using the stock gray or black Jag pad to play? If you are try using a Starwander Pro Controller as the d-pad allows for easier movement in the corners. A joystick might work better as well.

A bit off topic, but would you be able to make a pro controller like d-pad for the stock Jag pad (the one with black keypad buttons).