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  2. Posted

    Sounds like now's the time to buy.

     

    :)

     

    That would only make sense if you expect the price to go up again. I do not. Air Raid will be flipped until the price has come down to the point where it is actually worth that much to collectors, which will be in the $500 - $1,000 range. At that point collectors will keep them and the number of sales will go down. As long as there are multiple sales per year the price will go down.

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    In an article in the May 1983 issue of Electronic Fun With Computers & Games, Ron Dubren states the concept of this game was originally done in February 1982 and offered to Parker Brothers for use with their Jaws license. After they lost the licence, he showed it to Jim Wickstead (of James Wickstead Design Associates), who accepted it in August. A team of 5 worked to fully develop it, and finished it in October. "Treasures of the Deep" was the original name, then it was "Guardians of the Deep". After being advised not to use "The Deep" in the title, it was submitted to US Games who changed it to "Guardians of Treasure".

     

    Something about this story can not be true.

     

    Here is the review of the CES 1982 from Atari: http://www.atarimania.com/documents/atari-2600-ces-review-1982.pdf

    The CES was held in June 1982 and the document is dated 06/21/1982.

     

    On page 82 is the Vidtec dealer price list, dated 06/06/1982.

     

     

     

    Here is the May 1983 issue of Electronic Fun: http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/magazines/electronic-fun/pdf/Electronic_Fun_Computer_and_Games_Vol_01_07_1983_May.zip

     

    On page 79 is the interview with Dubren.

     

     

    EF: When did you come up with the concept for Name This Game?

     

    DUBREN: Actually, Name This Game was developed as a concept in February 1982 to try to sell to Parker to use with their .Jaws license only Parker lost the license. The upshot was that I had this game partly developed when I showed it to Jim Wickstead, who had done a lot of U.S. Games' VCS software, and he liked it.

     

    EF: At that point the game was nothing more than a story board?

    DUBREN: Yes, a story board. This was in July when it was presented to U.S. Games. Approval came in August and the game was developed very quickly.

     

     

    So how can a game that was presented to U.S. Games in July be on a price list from early June?

  12. Posted

    Yes Guardians Of the Treasure was the internal JWDA (wickstead) name before it was eventually named "Name This Game" by usgames when it was ready to publish.

     

    The vidtec price list from June 1982 lists "Guardians of Treasure" as VC1008 and "Untitled" as VC1007.

     

    "Name this game" is VC1007.

     

    I also got an US Games style Word Zapper and Commando Raid. Do you have any information if US games wanted to re-release the early vidtec titles in a US Games style box?

  13. Posted

    I mean I've overpaid for my fair share of items before but wow!

     

    I paid $99 for my sealed copy of Mattel AD&D. Was the first one that showed up on eBay. Was my worst mispurchase so far.

     

    Also paid $99 for Intv Inc. He-Man which back then several thought was way too much, but looking back I don't regret the purchase.

  14. Posted

    Congo once went for $1200 a number of years ago when it was thought to be the rarest Inty game. Lately $300 or so would net you a CIB copy

     

    Yeah, I remember really worn copies of Congo being sold for $1,000+

     

    But you can't make a general statement about the Intellivision market from a few excesses. Tutankham also sold once for $1,200 which was crazy.

     

    A few excesses have been corrected. And that is a good thing.

  20. Posted

    People have speculated, but I don't believe they ever picked an official winner (they certainly never announced anything).

     

    If it means anything to you, the game was originally developed under the title 'Guardians of Treasure' before they decided on the "Name This Game" promotion.

     

    I don't think that "Guardians of Treasure" was another name for "Name this Game".

     

    The vidtec price list from June 1982 lists "Guardians of Treasure" as VC1008 and "Untitled" as VC1007.

     

    "Name this game" is VC1007.

     

    So "Guardians of Treasure" was not "Name this Game"

  22. Posted

    Trebor, you are again making the same mistake. All 7800 games with the new banner are NTSC, but not all NTSC games have a new banner.

     

    In the case of Mean 18 all NTSC copies are "Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China" with a new banner.

     

    As you've noticed there are quite a lot of variations (Printed in Taiwan, Printed in Hong Kong, Made in China, ...) and also stickers (Atari advantage, New, Serie Oro).

     

    For all those variations it is possible to tell if it is an NTSC or PAL copy. There are only very few exceptions in 1989 and 1990 were Atari got lazy.

  23. Posted

    Trebor, my post was about Mean 18 only. The Made in China box is always PAL. The NTSC version also always has the "New" banner. So you can't swap the boxes.

     

    We can also discuss every other game if you want. Except very few games it is always possible to distinguish NTSC and PAL boxes.

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