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  1. Posted · Edited by Lodmot

    51 minutes ago, joeatari1 said:

    I wouldn't say regrettably.  I supported it as a crowd funded project with the full understanding that sometimes these projects don't work out.  I liked the initial concept and wanted to be "in" if something came of it.  Atari's biggest mistake is doing all of the development etc. in full public view.  Their PR team is abysmal and updates are too few and far between.  In larger companies like Microsoft and Sony, you don't have the opportunity to criticize them as much because they keep development in house and behind closed doors.  This should have been the way Atari set about things from the start.  I am still staying positive that something will come out, however and look forward to adding you as a friend on Atari OS too!

     

    I was actually half-joking (and failing at it) by mentioning adding friends on Atari OS. There won't be one when we get our units (if there is one, it likely won't have much functionality at all).

    But at any rate, if on some off-chance our consoles actually DO ship with Atari OS and it has that ability-- I'll absolutely add you as a friend too. :)

     

    To add to that, I definitely agree that their updates and PR are totally abysmal. If you talked to me back in October of 2018, I would've NEVER imagined it would get this out of hand. In my mind, the most logical thing to do would be to give people what they ask for in terms of communication and updates, so I would've figured as such that the company would proceed that way. Nope.... doesn't work that way.

     

    As it is, the company is trying to revitalize make a profit off of an already dead brand. By not listening to us, all they're doing is beating a dead horse at this point. I almost wonder if any organization would even care to pick up the Atari branding after this whole situation concludes, if Atari SA/Ataribox LLC does in fact go bankrupt.

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    18 minutes ago, TACODON said:

     

     

    Every day I kick myself for giving them money and you are not going to get a refund at this point. I tried that already.

     

    Yeah > 3 <

    Well... maybe we'll both get systems if they somehow manage to get them delivered to us.... o 3 o 

    I'll be sure to add you as a friend on Atari OS. ;D

     

    By the way, just out of curiosity, who else here regrettably bought a console? o w o 

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  4. Posted

    13 minutes ago, ColecoJoe said:

    Technically unless you get your money back,  you are still supporting the project :)

    True, but the transaction was made so far back now that I likely can't approach PayPal/Indiegogo to get those funds back. Atari has the money. 

    Also, I'm still a little curious about what I'm going to get delivered to me, if anything. Not trying to say it's going to be a good system, but it will be interesting to follow the rest of this situation and see how things pan out with it. It's kinda fun in a weird, twisted sort of way. xD

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  5. Posted · Edited by Lodmot

    10 minutes ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

     

    Yeah, it's hard for me to define.  To me, the first prototype would be the very first that's actually inside the console shell.  That'd make this one the first prototype--which we've yet to see even working.  The second prototype  would hopefully iron out the problems of the first.  

     

    Atari may consider the first development board to be the first prototype--or even the first laptop/pc they used before they called it "for illustration purposes only".   By that standard, we may be on the third or fourth prototype. 

    1: Laptop/PC, 2: Garage dev. board, 3: Black box GDC (if different from #2), 4: Current prototype

    They probably think this is true, because while @Flojomojo put the "You Are Here" arrow that image comes from their IGG campaign.  And, the step immediately above it is "pre-order campaign", so they went in thinking (or pretending) they had a prototype.

     

    I dunno.  In-as-much fun and enlightening this thread has been, I've been wondering if it's worth continuing to post.  I'm not sure if any minds have been changed from us, or if it's just people facing the stark reality of Atari's failings.  I saw another AA thread where one intrepid poster from this thread laid out perfectly why that person won't support current Atari.  The response?  The same ol' shtick that all consoles go through developmental ups and downs ; that the difference is we're witnessing it because of Atari's transparency.  The frustrating part is I'm pretty sure that same user has been explained that the problem is that Atari crowdfunded this instead of funding it by normal means.  

     

    Of course, the ol' "lead a horse to water" idiom applies.

     

     

     

     

     

    I notice that a few of the backers commenting on the Indiegogo campaign are starting to get their doubts on the console as well-- even our friend John Phelan, who was bending over backwards to support this thing. James Joseph Sullivan is a blind, diehard supporter so he's not going to change his mind anytime soon, while all the others around him are pointing out flaws in his comments:

     

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    The comments section in the indiegogo page seems to just be falling apart in general. Also, I am SUPER glad I stopped supporting the project and just stopped giving a shit before that "Atari VCS Supporters" group was made. Eeeuughh..... that situation is just weird...

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  8. Posted · Edited by Lodmot

    51 minutes ago, DurradonXylles said:

    I love that despite the fact that Atari's VCS project has a higher turnover rate than the public works sanitation office of any given major city, has an ever increasing list of broken contractual agreements both by them and their contractors, and they got people whistle-blowing the project, Atari SA, and Fred Chesnais like no tomorrow, the console's development is smoothly moving forward and will be delivered on time this time around despite all evidence to the contrary. It's been promised to us, so it must be true! :D

    Well, I'll tell you this-- even if the system never comes out, they did manage to get a case together, then got a re-designed version of that case together, and they got a prototype board of some sort (functionality unknown). They also had someone put that slideshow together detailing the blueprints of the board, front and back. It's actually made more progress than the Coleco Chameleon. Credit where credit's due I suppose...

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  9. Posted · Edited by Lodmot

    1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:

    The problem is that is the only thing they've shown to work on the unconsole. Technically that isn't even true as its been a generic LED switch amd not something coming from the board.

     

    Now I will amend it to say that there are still pictures of this potential. Its sad that they've done enough for illustrative purposes crap that I almost want to question all the still pictures.

    Atari really did this to themselves as far as I can see. Even if they made a contract/NDA with those other companies, it was a really flawed contract to begin with and should have never been signed.

    The problem is, Sony and Microsoft and Nintendo are allowed to get away with being secretive about their hardware projects, because they've proven dozens of times that they can launch successful hardware.

    Atari isn't even the same COMPANY anymore. They're probably literally smaller than the company I currently work for, of 35-40 employees. So Atari has to fulfill the burden of proof for everyone, and so far they refuse to.

    In their eyes, they believe they're as big as the other players, when they really aren't. That attitude is what is causing this iteration of Atari to commit suicide.

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  10. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

    OUYA delivered more than AtariBox ever will. More software, more users, more innovation, more sales. 

    Very true. I also had a good experience with the Ouya. Never understood all the bashing it got.

    I also developed a game for it (Game Catcher), and I got it on there right at the console's launch date. Since the platform was still very new, my game actually got noticed by a few journalists. Of course, they didn't like it-- but I still enjoyed the fact that that happened. xD

     

    Oh, and I actually really liked that commercial they made for it too. Lol. xD

     

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  12. Posted · Edited by Lodmot

    Just to see if anyone recorded the conference, I decided to go on YouTube and do a search for Atari VCS, then I sorted the videos in order by upload date...….. and apparently this was uploaded 9 hours ago (not even joking):

     

     

     

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    1 minute ago, x=usr(1536) said:

    Agreed on the focus shift to HTPC, which I believe happened because they found out that implementing a UI suitable for a console takes time, money, and effort.  Even the official subreddit describes it as, "the home entertainment system of the future."

     

    However, I'm not with you on Atari SA not marketing it as a game console.  The Indiegogo campaign slogan was, "Atari VCS: Game, Stream, Connect Like Never Before"; they're even still using, "Game, Stream, Connect" as the title for atarivcs.com.  If gaming wasn't their justification for its existence, the word "game" wouldn't be appearing as often as it does in their copy.

    Touche. ;3

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  21. Posted

    1 minute ago, x=usr(1536) said:

     

    Yep.  If I had to guess, it'll either be a repeat of the GDC off-site hotel suite fiasco, or they may have someone at a table in a breakout area.  I don't see them listed as a sponsor or vendor on the DesTechAZ site either, so it has to be a completely informal presence.

     

    Still, of all the conferences to latch onto...  This one really does not look like a winner.

    It definitely seems like they've shifted their focus to marketing it as a Linux PC/HTPC/IoT device instead of a game console. Their marketing for it as a game console was non-existent anyway. 

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  25. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Clint Thompson said:

    Since the topic has become wildfire, it could just as easily be that someone not under NDA and not knowing the real 'facts' somehow spread speculations that are indeed factual tidbits and the reaction from Atari only seems to confirm it as such, though no specifics were given. That could mean literally anything.

     

    It's none other than Atari's fault in the end for giving the bare minimum in regards to updates and leaving everyone else to guess wtaf is going on. How is it not their duty to communicate any major setbacks? I would think something like that would be covered in the IG terms and bind them into a mandated statement or update regarding the fact of such a thing. Everything else seems to quickly point to "we can't be held liable, etc. etc. etc." instead.

     

    I think Indiegogo should just delete the TOS page. It's wasting server space, and it's not like they enforce it anyway. xD

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