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3 minutes ago, MrMaddog said:The hubris began when Nolan Bushnell himself ran Atari in the 70's, he was more interested in hot tub parties than actually running the business so he ended up having to sell to Warner which set off this unfortunate chain of events. I really like the guy and the company he made but that's the sad truth.
And this incarnation of Atari is a lot like the Tramiel version where they had a history of screwing over developers, customers, dealers and consulting engineers (see the history of the Lynx). But at least they released computers with operating systems included...
Right now I just wish this curse of people trying to bring back "the brand" only to end in disaster would just end, all it's doing is making the Atari name become even more of a joke than it already is. As the guy from Pet Semetary said, sometimes dead is better.
Lol xD
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1 hour ago, supercoupe91 said:Hey thanks for the reply. Been hiding here from the fact that I'm a backer. Mostly out of shame. But hey, might as well come out and face the music since the writing is on the wall
Hey dude, no worries. Also, I don't think there's any reason to feel ashamed; you and I were in the same boat. > w <
We both were excited about Atari coming back, and it just snowballed in a bad direction.
I'm just chalking this up as a learning experience.
Hopefully we at least get something, even if it's just a Linux box. Lol.
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28 minutes ago, Phantom_of_Krankor said:Omg xDDD
I remember watching a documentary about that... Soooo creepy. x w x
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Just now, Phantom_of_Krankor said:I was banned from the official subreddit for repeating their words crafting an update back to them but putting it in quotations.
Whaaaaat theeeee........ o u o
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Oh shet. I just left a comment in the indiegogo page (for the first time in several months). Will I get trampled by VCS supporters? o w o
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5 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:Speaking of trends, Atari SA stock hasn't fully recovered from their Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day. They're not in the toilet yet, but what's their next trick? I think Atari should jump on the CBD fad, tie it back to the old Atari hot-tub culture, and forward to gamer performance. Young people! Big money! Fred Chesnais and Stuart Varney, together again! Get that stock back to 40 cents! Viva Infogrames!
How low can they go? o u o
4 minutes ago, keithbk said:Lol, omg. Imagine if Atari was bought out by Sony or somebody? And Sony ended up using the plastic molds for the new VCS to make the PS5? xDDDD
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1 minute ago, PlaysWithWolves said:Yeah, my mistake. I was referring to your question about Wyatt going to ElReg instead of other places. I should've double-checked before putting quotes. Apologies!
No problem dude!
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8 minutes ago, keithbk said:Just wanted to look up "Atari VCS Specs" to see if there were any, and it led me to this article:
https://www.pocket-lint.com/games/news/142369-atari-vcs-ataribox-pre-orders-price-specs-release-date
"It'll offer apps and access to streaming, social, web browsing, music listening and more, including services such as Netflix and Spotify."
Sounds to me they've developed a Roku that can work with a Joystick.... (I'm using the word "developed" loosely here, because there is no evidence anything has been developed).
They essentially made a Linux box, lol. It literally just boots up to an Ubuntu desktop environment-- that's it.
That's fine for me, because I'll load LaunchBox or RetroArch on it. I'll find a good use for the console. But I can totally see other people expecting to be able to utilize it with a controller (not realizing you'll need to plug a keyboard and mouse into it), and they'll think it's defective or something.
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4 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:I could almost swear they've been around longer than that - I moved to the US in 1998, and was reading them before I lived here. Want to say '95-ish might be closer to the money.
Either way, they're coming on for a quarter-century of reporting, which is a hell of an accomplishment given how fickle ownership of media outlets and the subsequent changes that brings can be.
That's damn impressive though, either way. o:
I think they're older than Game-Revolution.com. I used to go to that site religiously to look up cheat codes for games. Lol. Then I found cheatcc.com, which had a much larger database of cheats. xD
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1 minute ago, x=usr(1536) said:Yes, and their credibility is typically held in fairly high regard. They've had a couple of gaffes over the years, but as a source for tech news (and investigative journalism into tech), they're one of the longest-running and are generally considered to be a reliable source.
One thing about The Register: it's usually very even-handed in how it approaches subject matter. However, in the best traditions of the UK press, if they smell a rat they have absolutely no problems with bringing every unpleasant detail of the story out from under the rocks. That's not to say that they would go so far as to throw objectivity out of the window, but rather that they have no compunctions about pissing off the subject of the story by reporting less-than-favourable information when it comes to light.
Cool, that's what I was wondering. Thanks :3
As long as they're a reputable source, then I'm happy to go along with it. When I search for gaming news I usually will either watch Spawn Wave and RGT85, or I'll just Google search what I'm looking for in the "News" section, and I'll end up with websites like GameSpot, or PCWorld or IGN, etc.
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4 minutes ago, PlaysWithWolves said:Yeah, I think he removed that and possibly more about the financials. Someone on Twitter asked him specifically about profits and number of employees, then later put up a screenshot from the financial report showing twenty employees, profit, etc.
So far they are a better source of information than the "reliable" places you like. So much so, some of those have been quoting ElReg lately!
I don't really recall when I mentioned reliable sources just now, lol. I mentioned having personal experience with the Atari VCS (which was negative). If you want to know who I use as reliable sources, usually it's SpawnWave and RGT85 and ReviewTechUSA-- all really good guys. o u o
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7 minutes ago, Clint Thompson said:Seems irrelevant either way, since Atari has no one else to blame other than themselves at this point. Although after reading his interview, it’s clear he has a IDGAF kind of attitude so it may be more than just Atari to blame even if all roads lead to them in the end regardless.
Yeah, true. By not listening to us early on, Atari dug themselves into the hole that they're in. xD
I was just curious if The Register has any credibility as a source or not.
I know I was screwed over as a developer, so I have my own personal experiences that make me feel negative towards the Atari VCS. Then we have Curt Vendel, who is connected with the project.
I remember back when I made Game Catcher for the Ouya, and believe it or not, developing a game for it was a very positive experience. It was an excellent first platform for me to develop my first game release for. Sucks that Atari couldn't give me that same experience. o u o
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Not to defend Atari or anything (and hopefully I don't get lambasted for this, lol), but I find it a little interesting that Rob Wyatt approached The Register (of all the different tech sites he had the choice to approach).
It's just funny to me because the source of bad press (at least lately) is all coming from The Register, and other sources and YouTubers seem to be picking up what they're saying.
My point is, do we know for a fact that they're a reliable source of factual information, and they're not just trying to stir up the drama?
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8 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:Holy fuck dude... o__o
This makes me appreciate the fact the I just took a break from the VCS frenzy and "stopped caring about it"....
It's weird how deranged and immature people can actually get. That's why I always tell my parents, "dude, introversion is the way to go." LOL
Just lock me up in my mancave with all my video games and with my girlfriend and nobody else, and I'll be just fine. Nobody will harm us, and we won't harm them.
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3 minutes ago, The Historian said:I'm not sure. There are at least 4 in the C-suite, a director, and a social media manager (not Uber). That's six right there.
There's a few YouTuber's saying Atari only has 3 employees. I'm not sure what the original source was either, but yeah..
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Lol, John Hancock's video. He actually mentions this thread too:
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14 minutes ago, PlaysWithWolves said:I think it's rampant speculation and a convenient scapegoat for delays.
Tin Giant has 4 employees. I doubt more than two are paid to sit around and remind Wyatt to pull his hands out of his pants. So, maybe work could progress even while he had some downtime. He was well enough by June to be in a seedy Atari hotel room across from CGE.
This is like trying to figure out which is the cleanest pig in the pen. They're all muddy. Wyatt is problematic. Atari is problematic. Using the term "problematic" is problematic. There are no heroes here.
Hmmm.... Atari has 3 employees, Tin Giant has 4 employees..... What the hell dude xD
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48 minutes ago, Agillig said:Russell's reply at the bottom is priceless. He says that whenever Atari gives an update, Youtubers waste no time bad mouthing them. Well, when your "updates" consist of photoshopped controllers, games being played that don't exist, systems shown as being played on TV's with no cords, and general misinformation, or simply saying past updates are no longer applicable, how do you expect people to say anything positive?
If Atari wants positive reactions, they should show something in action, since surely this system will be shipping in 2 months, right? And if not, it's time to come out and admit that.
And, when Atari goes around bragging they've got Wyatt onboard, and essentially using his name as a selling point, it absolutely is people's business if he no longer works there.
As much as I agree that Atari should show something in video, I suppose at this point doing so is kinda irrelevant now.
In other words, if you want to know what the Atari VCS will look like in action, download yourself a live bootable USB image of Ubuntu 19.10, write it to a flash drive and boot it up in any PC-- there you go. LOL.
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Fred Chesnais is probably like, "Eh... invoices, bankruptcy, NDA's and contracts-- what's the difference?"
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6 minutes ago, JaqenHghar said:On whether Wyatt was freeloading or not... correct me if I'm wrong but don't contractors get to invoice only after they deliver things (even if they're just progress things) rather than just get paid a regular salary? When I got work done on my house I got invoices with actual expenses, receipts for materials, labor hours, etc. The guy didn't just come by and collect a check every two weeks. Wyatt was quoted as saying he had several unpaid invoices going back six months. Maybe @Curt Vendel could comment on how contractors bill Atari?
Plus if his invoices are six months old then they'd have to be for work done even earlier than that, wouldn't they? Who holds on to a contractor that supposedly hasn't been productive in over six months? And how would that change whether they would've paid him for work he had already delivered before that? Are they clairvoyant? Though I wouldn't be surprised if he did start dragging his feet more recently. I know I would if my client wasn't paying me for work already delivered but still expecting me to do more work.
In Rob's defense, I guess it's kinda hard to do much if he's in a hospital bed like this for a period of time:
Though that was back in November, nearly a year ago. So that was before the 6 months when he claimed Atari stopped paying for his work. I wonder how much this actually had to do with his performance working at Atari.
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Just now, Inky said:I was born in 68,and I just had my 51st birthday.
Yeahhh. I screwed up my math there. LOL!
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2 minutes ago, keithbk said:Someone theorized that the VCS guys were attempting to get enough crowdfunding to show "interest" in the Atari in order to sell their concept to a major company.
The fact that they over-performed their initial goal (was it $50,000?) put them in a bind because they had no "hardware" people/staff on board, only marketing people.
Well, if those guys are learning anything, they're learning how difficult it actually is to produce a game console-- and they're learning it the hardest way possible. Lol...
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One thing I find funny that I don't think we really mentioned....... Atari gets super annoyed about people not completing their BackerKit surveys, LOL:
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New Atari Console that Ataribox?
in Atari 2600
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I find it funny that my name is also Tommy... o u o