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3 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said:I'd use a RAW connection on a port other than 23.... you will become a bot and hack magnet...
Just out of curiosity... I know you're promoting the whole "RAW" thing, and I'm not sure I disagree, but are you sure that it's of any benefit for ST BBS's?
We don't have the CR/LF/EOL translation issue and frankly, I've used SyncTerm to upload and download files to my own BBS when I didn't want to be bothered with floppies or moving the CosmosEx and it worked like a champ (and some guy who called a few times and never again back in 2014 and downloaded all my 80's hottie chick pics didn't seem to have a problem with file transfers either).
Like I said, I'm not saying I have a problem with this "RAW" thing, but doesn't it require the caller to make adjustments, and given the people on the internet are generally morons.... is the cost/benefit ratio good enough for the ST BBS's to recommend that?
I'd even question it on the A8 ones, since I never seemed to have much issue... but I know others had, so I'll let that be... but on the ST side... Need to see more info before I sign on to that. -
32 minutes ago, rcamp48 said:You wanna here some bad news: my contact here in town scrapped a Multiplexer the other day, I would have loved to have grabbed it, and yes I agree the ST is the way to go, and i have a lantronics device coming for it pretty soon, I have all but given up running a BBS on the 8 bit... oh well
That's really a shame. I would love to get my hands on an 8-system setup. Maybe someone will work on something like that instead of "yet another drive/storage emulator".
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On 7/11/2019 at 1:04 PM, Bikerbob said:I got a Qnap from a friend last night.. its not a super modern one though.. so great as a media server but not for a VR server.. but maybe it will allow me to put a common VR on the qnap and then access either at home or at work .. for those days when its slow and I want to test.
I also have a USR modem.. that I could hook up to my 4mb STFM and then test the software on that. I dont have mass storage for that machine yet though.. But once I get my VME lightning .. then I can use my COSMOSex and move it to the STFM. To run the BBS I dont need 16mhz and Blitter etc.. anyway.
James
Which CosmosEx do you have again? I can move mine from machine to machine at will.
Are the new Lightnings available for order yet? Need to pick up one more once they have the new design. Just gonna tell you now, if you get the old version of the Lightning, I didn't enjoy installing it on my MSTE. I got it installed... the machine works (haven't actually tried doing anything with it yet though). -
A few of my friends got busted for that back in the day. Kinda funny now how rampant the piracy stuff is today and LD costs pretty much nothing. How times change.
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Sorry I didn't have a better solution.
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I've actually tried it a few times myself and gave up trying it on Windows. I do have an old laptop that I had installed Linux on that I am going to try again with....
I think the real issue with running it on Windows is the way (or the difference in the way) that Linux and Windows let software access hardware.
In the *nix world, everything is basically a "file" which is basically what Hatari is looking for. You can probably get it working in Windows, but I suspect you will have to drop some $$$.
I have been able to get TCPser working on my Win10, but then again, I actually have real com ports on this thing (8 of them, to be exact).
To be honest, I gave up and decided to just do my stuff on real hardware. I have a CF AztecMonster in an external SCSI case, so I can just swap out cards with whatever setup I want to go with.
I only know one guy who actually was successful running a BBS through emulation, and he really didn't want to be anyone's Yoda concerning how he managed to get it done, suffice to say he said it was something of a custom hackjob that wasn't overly stable (which was part of why he didn't want to be burdened with people trying to ask him about it all the time). That said though, what Kirkman put in his article should work as well on a Linux box as it did on his Mac. Once I get some other projects out of the way... maybe I'll play with it again on Windows...
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9 minutes ago, rcamp48 said:It will be as its easier to set up .
Russ, if you're basing things on what's easy... don't be a SysOp. It's not easy. You absolutely WON'T get any kind of instant gratification. Before this "retro revolution", I LITERALLY could go OVER A MONTH without a SINGLE CALLER. I spent many a night wondering why I even bothered back in the earlier 2013-18 years.
I mean, I'm sorry man... but it's getting hard to take you seriously when you change your mind (and software, and platform, and means of communication) more often than most people change their socks.
I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's hard to help you when it's likely that you'll change your mind again by the time anyone posts a reply to your question.Running a BBS is something that takes dedication and to be quite honest... vision. The community doesn't need another BBS Express Pro BBS just to have one. We just don't have the user base to warrant it. We have more SysOps than "users".... too many "chiefs" not enough "indians". I'm just honestly wondering how you're going to stick to this when you have literally made how many fundamental changes in the last couple weeks? Forem ST (or Forum ST?) Renegade, back to Forem ST, offering a "bounty" for Forem PC, posting pictures of your Forem ST BBS on Facebook, and now BBS Express?
I mean, really, it's your time. But I'm not changing the BBS list twice a week. Your BBS will not be listed until you go a 6 solid months with something concrete.... and just to be clear. This is just my opinion. I'm not a leader or gatekeeper... I'm certainly not a model SysOp myself since I tend to get caught up in life and don't call my fellow Atari BBS's as I should. I try. But I don't live up to my own ideals for certain. But for the love of all that is holy... if you're going to do this... pick a direction and run.. don't stop... don't turn. You do have a dedication to the hobby that I could admire, but you have to pick a direction and run with it if you're going to do this. There is no "minor league" in the BBS community.
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7 hours ago, Bikerbob said:Was looking at this on the BBS Software Directory.. looks really interesting.. so I am following the thread as well. Besides Tillek wants to see some different software used for any new board.. I like the idea of the nested msgs. Also looking at a bbs called FS ForeSight.. not sure what the final version of that was.. trying to contact the author.. found his contact on Twitter. Looks like something different anyway
James
Some very important points....
1) Yeah... I did say that... and I do truly believe it... but.....
2) Most important over all things, I think a BBS SysOp needs to have vision... some kind of vision... nearly any kind of vision. If a BBS SysOp really wants to run a BBS on a certain software because they "ran it back in the day" or because it has the features they want.... GO for it. If you want to run something no one has seen (in 20-30 years) and wants to make a showcase out of it... GO for it. If you want to run a BBS... and are kinda flimflammy and maybe sure I'll just go ahead to do something and running something different is ok cause some guy thinks we need it... NO NO NO.
If you (not you specifically, this is a general purpose "you") want to run a BBS because it's cool. STOP. It's not. If you really have a vision, then do what follows that vision, and screw anyone (especially including me) who gets in your way. I'll say it till my last breath that we don't need an A8 BBS Express Pro BBS in this community... but we do need BBS's with vision (especially one where the vision isn't being met by the other BBS's) even if it WAS a BBS Express Pro BBS.
If that makes any sense......
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2 hours ago, rcamp48 said:I have BBS Express Professional as 6 DD diskettes for the 8 bit with original serial numbers....
Russ
PS: Gonna pay for it if I can and run it....
Just so you know, that's not new. If anything, the Atari BBS community is over-saturated with BBS Express Pro BBS's.
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1 hour ago, rcamp48 said:I will have Spy Visits Spy BBS running on my Atari 8 Bit 600xl (64 K) with BBS EXPRESS PRO in a couple of days. I am just waiting for my Lantronics UDS 10 to arrive , I have a PR Connection and an Atari max USB starter kit (the Atarimax starter kit is overdue for arrival). Anyways I am working on the custom Atari graphics and the message bases for Spy Visits Spy BBS, it will take a few days to get everything ready. Phone number is 1-226-647-0710, and the telnet address will be 99.250.141.63 port 23 in a few days.
I might run it on the phone modem , ya I have a real land line, and a 28800 baud modem.
Russ
So now it's not a Forem ST BBS (or a Renegade, or a Forem PC), it's a BBS Express BBS?
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Nowadays? I mean, maybe that's the newest Diablo that you were viewing, but Diablo has been around for decades. I was thinking more Diablo and Diablo II.
(and 46 here.... yeah, we've seen a lot.....)
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I guess my question is, are you talking first person combat, or isometric real-time like Diablo?
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21 minutes ago, Bikerbob said:Damm your killn me.. not that many people log on.. Draw Bikerbob dammit!
James
Actually, if that works on the old 520STM( no F), I could really use it.
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56 minutes ago, SoulBuster said:It is always fun to root around in what others have done. It is a beefy machine with 10mg ST ram and 32 mg TT Ram. I will report back with anything that is more than a curiosity.
Yeah, actually, I almost bought that one, but I got a similar setup (with that same card) about five years ago for about half that price and just couldn't bring myself to do it. That's not to say it isn't worth it... especially since we're now in the era of the Thunder Storm and Lightning.... I just got a good deal before the retro-revolution took hold. The 10mb ST ram is nice though... mine didn't have that.
Hope there is some great stuff on there.
More importantly, I hope you really have fun with it!
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Not a bad buy.... good luck with the Cyrell card though. I have one of those and it doesn't always play nice with other software. Getting it going in Mint in 256 colors has been a bit of an on-off adventure.
Would be curious to see what software was on there, specifically for the Cyrell, but in general.... what treasures may be found there.
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I remember modifying AMIS back in the day (hell, who didn't). I seem to remember being able to modify mine to have multiple message bases (stock AMIS had only one).
For a gradeschool kid, this was a huge deal. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to actually run a BBS since my parents wouldn't let me have my own phone line, wouldn't let me use the family line at night... that kinda put the stopper on that.
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I thought we had this discussion before..... but to put it simply... it won't work. You're playing apples against oranges here.
Forem ST wants to talk to a modem. NetUSBee with STing is not a modem. If anyone had written a virtual com port for the ST, that might work, but to the best of my knowledge, no one did.
You could also totally re-write Forem ST. Without the source code, that's probably not going to be easy.
So your options are, dropping $20 on a Lantronix box, using TCPSer, or using one of the other modem-emulation to telnet options like the rest of us who run telnet BBS's.
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On 6/19/2019 at 6:31 AM, Zap! said:I have one, but the power button is broken. It powers on as soon as I press it, but when I let go, it powers back off. It doesn't click. in place of on.
Mine has the same problem. Worked fine right after I got it, but then it started doing that. You can find replacement switches online. I don't remember the model number of the actual monitor it is (it's really just a repackaged/badged Panasonic monitor if I remember right)... it's a lot easier to search for the parts/cables with that actual model number.
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It is not a good assumption that Modems work over VOIP. It really depends on who your provider is and what codecs they are using. I've heard people claim to have good luck with Verizon's Fios, but everything from mid-range to horror stories on others. I experimented with MagicJack once and could barely get 1200 baud, not completely stable, with one BBS.
If you can't find someone with your provider in your area that has tried it and can tell you how it went, you're really just going to have to try it yourself and see how the results go. This may have worked fine for Russ with his provider in his area, but YMWV.
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14 hours ago, JohnPolka said:If we were a closed club, we could impose a written report as initiation, eh? 😀
-JP
Eh, we can always kick people out for not doing their homework. Of course, we'd have to call it "expulsion" in that case.
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11 hours ago, Bikerbob said:Well nothing super useful at the moment, but I will share. I was able to get ahold of the author of Ratsoft BBS.. He is getting some old hardware together.. he found his source code and told me in an email he is going to update the software.. So for the ST group.. that might be something to look forward to. I always liked Ratsoft as my fav. bbs software.
James
Figures... tried to get in touch with him for years while I was running RatSoft. Barely two months after it goes down, he shows up. I had been hoping that the source code would come up, but he had said that something had happened with some water damage or something (or so I was told, I never was in contact with him directly).
If I could find another Mega STE or get one of the two dead ones here working, I'd put it back up, but alas....
That said, this really should be in the discussion section, Resources was meant to be more read only and my intention was to delete messages here when the main post was updated with the links (which I haven't managed to do yet).
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I had Fidonet/AtariNet/NeST/RPGNet/etc. archives from back in the 90's... I just wish I had archived more than the last 250-500 messages...
Especially the AtariNet and NeST.....
Might get around to making it downloadable in an archive someday..... someday......
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Yeah, I guess it's about time I watched it too...... We should all watch it and write a one page book report.
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On 6/27/2019 at 8:30 AM, Albert said:Images are now working properly in Galleries. So feel free to add more images to this club now.
..Al
Thank you for all your great work... and especially for this. Hope we weren't too much trouble, Was this a site wide thing, or were we just an unlucky group?
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Atari 8-bit related BBS(s)
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How does calling a modem->modem connection at 2400 just go up to 9600?