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Since you asked me nice, I'll see what I can do. That one is actually tricky because as far as I can tell, and I am *not* a musician, the tempo is not simple to convert into a "tracked cadence" that I would use to describe IntyBASIC music notation.

We all remember some DOS-era computers that had a light that flickered with levels of CPU activity, disk activity, etc. I wonder what the technical possibility would be to have a kind of "LED shell" that could do something similar for the Intellivision? I'm thinking of a kind of cartridge shell with maybe an Arduino trinket and a watch battery inside, some kind of attachment (wire?) that would attach on one of cartridge address lines, with a LED or two mounted on top. Then open up an existing cart, place it in the "LED shell" and during play it would light up in certain conditions. This isn't about commercial feasibility, just the tech and development angle... Would it be possible? I would love to have extra Christmas Lights on my Christmas Carol game!

I was not going to split hairs, but then I said to myself, "self, that is what we do here on this forum". I submit that the original source is not needed to change Deadly Discs from a technical standpoint, but it may be essential to de-IP Deadly Discs. My thin understanding of the legal part of things is that IP would have to take two source listings and compare them to say "see, this is the original, we identified the intellectual property parts here and here and here, and this is our new source and see how we changed them there and there and there." Then the other side looks at the listing and agrees that the new is sufficiently different and does not resemble the original, and the source can go into a repository somewhere and the right people are indemnified. The intellectual property holder is not expected to play the game and say whether it looks like their game or not as the primary thing. Also, if the game is disassembled and changed and there is no source comparison, there is no way to know if a Recognizer suddenly pops out at level 75 or something due to an easter egg or bug. I had to deal with something similar when my company had some open source software in it's tech stack and the company was acquired; the larger company did not want OSS in the stack for their own legal purposes. The lawyers were happy when we could prove that we had replaced the OSS bits (compression libraries) with commercial libraries, documented source tree comparisons of method calls to the commercial libs were the proof path of least resistance.

I get the feeling that IP is very ROI-sensitive and risk averse. This might not apply to Keith Robinson, but I have seen others in his age bracket (not that he's much older than me) that own their own businesses and want to go with predictable revenue streams (even if they are smaller) rather than than something with more calculated risk with high payoff value. Assuming IP has the source code to say Tron Discs, getting someone to do more than change the shape of the Recognizer, modify some colors, and update the manual/title screen is likely more than IP would want to pay. I hate to get into the business of how they run their business, but maybe a new KR question could be "Do you have a framework setup to contract with programmers to modify games to remove licensed intellectual property so games like Tron Discs could be re-released without Disney property for example?" Not my best wording but you get the idea.

I like your question a lot. Knowing what I know now about Intellivision graphics, there are probably n-tiles allocated to the Recognizer shape, and it would not take a lot of effort to turn them into ferinstance an evil trapezoid or a truck or anything else.

Could you add this to the next “Questions for Keith” segment, or if you have an answer before the show, and if you get a "preview answer" could you post it here? " Could you point the world to a definitive 'fair use' document that states the circumstances of where and when and under what rules the Intellivision Running Man can be shown? It would be interesting to know when that iconic figure can be shown on a fan site vs a homebrew publisher vs an independent/commercial venture. A pointer to a written declaration is all that's needed to be clear in this case. " We know that Keith is not a lawyer, but he's referred to legal issues about this-and-that in other segments, so it would be great to get some clear cut information on this topic. Different companies treat their brand identities differently so it would be good to know how IP treats this particular piece.

If the game on the Intellivision is unique in gameplay or has programmatic level generation or something, it could sell well. If it is a great port of the game as-is I am not so sure. When I played it back in the day it seemed to me to be a cross between Boulderdaah and Donkey Kong - with a very frustrating timing jump mechanism. Fun initially but not a lot of replay value and not something to show to visitors "hey watch me play this 1-player game you don't recognize". A modern version on the Inty would have to be a big differentiator to pick up sales beyond what we have seen in the Inty homebrew/independent past, so I hope that is there with a new 2049er release.

Joe Z, you take the prize with the most gangsta Intv post of the year. The prize was formerly held by you in the programming sub forum.

I think we are on the same page. Actually putting the IntyBASIC compiler inside a website as I thinly described would require putting everything inside a single directory, since you'd have no control where the "site" was physically stored in the cloud (rack to rack or zone to zone). I guess you are right that someone would "only" have to know the command line, and as someone who has at least 2 open minimum at any given time I agree, but perhaps the folks that could be reached would be a larger audience that have no command line familiarity at all.

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I spent way too much time thinking about this when I should have probably been doing other things.. I skimmed a few sites here and here and here and there, as well as re-reading DZ-Jay's input, and think that this could work. Run on a free-tier Azure website, which gives a mini VM running IIS with 1gb of disk. Put the Win32 versions of the jzIntv and IntyBASIC SDK bits in a directory of the web server. Set up a source tree structure in the VM's space with a minimal layout for multiple files and versioning. Create 1-2 page web app (simple name/pass authentication) that allows user to write IntyBASIC text with Xinha editor or something similar. Add another page with 1-button compilation/linking/etc to build IntyBASIC code written. Add button/dropdown/etc controls to select from a list of built ROMs. Selected ROM item is packaged into a floppy image and DOSBOX is launched along with parameters to use one jzIntv and the "ROM floppy". It might even be possible to keep the DOS environment running with just a "disk change" cycle to make re-running faster with a different floppy. I could imagine writing code in one window and executing in another. The prospective IntyBASIC developer would have to know relatively little about IntyBASIC/AS1600/etc internals to get started. Legwork cost - fairly high. Dollar cost - $0. I think that covers the OP's original intent - create something with IntyBASIC from home or work, centralized cloud-housed content, and a way to test/run his stuff without messing with local system configuration.

As one of the 3 other guys that acutaly owns one, what would you actually like to see? There's really, unfortunately, not much too it.

I am not 100% sure at what you want to do, but both MS Azure and Amazon AWS have environments can run for free or really low cost. It would take some configuration and creation of bits that don't exist now but... I could imagine say a cloud-hosted website with a really really rich text control on a page, "save" on the webpage would actually store the source to a temp disk location on the web server (the whole Intv compilation environment is really small in terms of storage and CPU). Saved bits would go to a cloud storage bucket for safekeeping. The webserver would then launch the compiler; if there are errors they show in a webpage and if success then an emulator launches in the browser which has a URI to fetch the server-housed .rom to play the game. There would be some workflow to add in there (eg version control among other things), but I could imagine that running on an Azure website in the free/shared tier. The Intv development and emulated runtime enviroment could fit with no problem. An good facet of this would be that there would not have to be Windows/Mac/*nix versions of the compilation environment and configuration of paths, etc. would all be done. Just update the server-side container/package and let the developer use any OS they want. Another plus is when someone is sharing what they are doing (eg "please look at my code, I'm stuck!"), they would only have to give out a URL for across-the-globe-pair-programming.

I didn't invent the tune, and I didn't invent IntyBASIC. Source is yours to do whatever you want. If it helps you for 1/2 a second, I'm satisfied.

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I am with you on the 16-direction requirement. If I had to bet money I would say many games take 16 directions into account even if they are not explicitly requiring all 16 points to be "hit" in a game. I think it would be cool to have a horizontal controller housing design. Something the resembled a 21st-century controller, but was still the Intellivision innards, just placed differently. Disc on the left for the thumb, keypad on the right, side buttons are all placed along the top.

I like the classic "email flood pressure" idea. AtGames has no idea what (potential) customers are saying, unless they say it. It would probably take a campaign guided by the Intellivisionaries (an organization that is respected, has a track record of caring about the console, and not in it to compete with AtGames) or something similar to get the kind of PR pressure on AtGames for them to even notice. I could imagine a Flashback II with the same form factor and controllers as the FB1, just with the IntyII color scheme. Definitely not spending the money/time to reproduce IntyII controllers that everyone hates. Improved sound emulation - a low cost and appreciated update AtGames could do. Controller wiring - leave it as it is now, let Nurmix sell more cable converters for people that really want 'em.* then AtGames doesn't have to spend money on that either. But what games to add? I think that is the main problem. There are thousands of FB1 units out there already, and I suspect that they will be back on US store shelves this Christmas, as I think the main FB market is the casual gamer that has nostalgia for the Intellivision or spouse who wants to give a unique gift. So the FB2 should have 30+ new ones with no overlap from the FB1 for the same price as the FB1, or maybe all of the FB1 games plus 20-30 for around $20 more. But what games to add? From what I gleaned from the Keith Robinson interviews, Intellivision Productions is not interested in pushing hard on the legal or financial front to get licensing for Activision or Imagic or Interphase or Sega or Parker Bros games; the IP return on investment is not good enough in his calculation. I think he is primarily interested in mass market strategies to make money. To throw out a bad analogy, the Android market strategy is to throw out as much tech as possible and make a thin margin but the iPhone market strategy is to tightly control a limited amount of tech and maximize margin-per unit with less units sold overall, but the dollars end up being the same. But what games to add? I also gleaned from the KR interviews that IP is skittish about doing business with anyone who has infringed (real or perceived, as perception can be the reality) on copyrights in the past. So that probably prevents something like Boulderdash from appearing on a FB2, because as awesome as it is the publisher once way back did not have a licensing deal with Nintendo of Japan when they got involved with DK1/2. If I surmise correctly, that leaves about 2-4 homebrew/independent games and maybe the following if KR has got a relationship with license holders for Championship Tennis Commando Diner Easter Eggs (if it was done, what was that game supposed to do/be?) Kool Aid Man (even though it is a bad looking game) So... I don't see how there can be an FB2 unless there is a way to get all new games on it that won't cannibalize FB1 sales. And IP is not going to do that. We're in a bind. * I think Nurmix should do some Bing Ads and Adwords text ads for the cables so when people are searching for Intellivision or Flashback, his stuff would pop up. It's cost-per-click, so if no one clicks you don't pay, if someone clicks through to buy one from your site, you pay in my estimation about $.10 per click probably.

It appears to me that we are not the Flashback market. The Flashback market is someone who recognizes the Intellivision and wants to relive some of their old-school game time, or the spouse of someone who wants to give a unique Christmas gift. Not a person who actually has one connected to a living TV/display at this moment. There is somewhere near zero profit margin on mass-producing something that would appeal to folks that read the AA forums.

Making me feel old when you have to explain "BBS" and "sysop"

Bumping this thread because it's so awesome.

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Ebay just told me: We are no longer sending email for: intellivision cuttle cart We've noticed that you are no longer receiving email for intellivision cuttle cart. If you want to continue receiving, please follow the three step process below. I had a search open for years waiting for one to be available. Well, I think I will let this search "die", since the Hive and LTO Flash will be here in about a month or so... Right?