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    Ci sono anche io! Sono Lorenzo e sono di Milano, un grande fan di retrogaming...ma non sono un collezionista, solo uno a cui piace leggere ogni possibile libro/rivista sull'argomento! La mia prima console fu il Colecovision (che possiedo tuttora)...sapevate che un utente del forum (retroillucid) sta scrivendo un libro sulla storia delle Coleco Industries?

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    Except it's the truth. Amazon payments/Createspace/etc. all fall under the same Amazon umbrella. They have a threshold for the amount of payments reversals before they flag and terminate your account

     

    I know, but you cut the other part of my answer :) What I wanted to say is that even if true some people do not like the idea of keeping their preorder confirmed against delays just to support the project.

     

    By the way my willingness to buy it is stronger than ever. Do you think it will be available within November or within Xmas? Or you honestly can't tell for now?

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    It is not 4 months past due, we have always been up front and given planned released dates, never firm dates. There's just too many variables in self-publishing to give an exact date. We've given updates where we thought we were ready to go only to have things get pushed back, but we can't help that if people have chosen to interpret that differently. Likewise we've been far more accessible than any publisher or self-published author normally is, via here, facebook, constant emailed queries, and more. If there's something important to update, we do. If there's not, we won't. It is being worked on, and as some of the AA members who live in the Milwaukee area can attest - I've got the dark rings under my eyes to prove it.

     

     

     

    My point exactly. People wait far far longer when pre-ordering games, whether self-published or big studio released.

     

     

     

    What's inexcuseable is continually trying to get people to cancel their orders on here. It's a dickish move, and has the possiblity of affecting the entire ability to publish the book - if too many people cancel, we loose createspace and Amazon. You want to complain publicly about your own order, fine. You want to try and publicly get people to pull theirs, that's what you got chastised about and will get chastised about. Likewise, it seems the concept of a pre-order is not being understood. Pre-orders are normally done with the understanding that dates are expected, not firm, and subject to change - because you're ordering before the product is ready to go. Game releases and book publishings routinely slide 6 months to a year (some have gone several years), and this has just been a 4 month window - all with far more communication than any other book or game publisher gives anyone.

     

    The continued attitude of several people here is nothing but a slap in the face, when I've been pushing myself and doing nothing but regular job all day to book all night and weekend since May. I'm physically and mentally exhausted, but still pushing forward because it needs to get done and I want this War and Peace sized book out and enjoyed by everyone. This is being done out of pure love for the subject, not any need to make a buck, and because we knew nobody else was up to the task of putting together a book with the needed accurate content - let alone this much of it. It's also why we decided to self publish - the book would have been half the size, taken even longer to publish (9 months to a year turnaround we were told), and be edited content wise to what the publisher thinks would sell rather than what we know the fans are expecting. This entire time, I've been continually telling the people that worked at Atari that we interviewed (and who have been gracious enough to continue to make themselves accessible during this entire process) that I hope we do them justice with this book and make them happy. That's been my personal measuring stick in all this.

     

     

    I respect and admire your passion and rest assured I will still be first in line to buy when available but I do not entirely agree with what you say here.

     

    You say that you only gave ''planned release dates'' and not firm release dates but I think that it is a very subtle distinction and that the majority of people here (or elsewhere) have all the right to feel confused by this and even complain (if politely, of course), especially after you created some hype around the book (this thread is called "Countdown clock has started" after all) also basing it around a date (Atari anniversary).

     

    I work for a game company shipping products to retail and (as for all consumer businesses, I think) all dates are "planned" release dates, simply because everything can happen in the world forcing you to change the date. Only God probably has "firm" release dates, so I think the distinction between planned and firm is not convincing enough . And yes, it is now 4 months since your original "planned" release date, no question about this.

     

    You also say that it is normal for a product in pre-order to ship 6 months later than planned and this is very true but you also know well that it is then normal for customers/users to complain online and also to mention the fact that everybody should cancel their preorders. I am not saying that this is right or wrong, just saying that this is part of the game and you have to accept it, even if you are pouring heart and soul into your project (like hundreds of talented people do when trying to complete a game running behind schedule).

     

    Imho you cannot say that if people cancel their preorders the project is at risk, because part of the audience may think that you are deliberately telling them "just a few days before release" every time just to convince them not to cancel, even if you know the real release date is still far away (I am NOT stating that you are doing this, far from it, it is just what I think about this subject). Again, this is part of the game and imho you have to accept it, even if you are not doing it for a profit, also because this is a Kickstarter funded project.

     

    In the end I wish you all the best for the book and I can't wait to read it but please don't get upset if people want to know more about the release date and be honest with them. If you have no idea of when the release will be (or if you feel that it will take a few months more to complete) please let us know and we will relax about it. Telling everyone that it is costantly around the corner and then going silent and then again telling that it is only a few days away and then repeating the process can generate tension in the audience.

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    I voiced opinions, while you voiced insults joking about my comprehension skills, forcing me to reply...honestly I think that you are the one that should go elsewhere, if you can't stand someone who refuses to take your insults without replying. But probably you are so full of yourself that you consider everthing you say an absolute truth, while others just have comprehension issues...

  21. Posted

    No need to get nervous, my friend...I have read the whole thread and althought you can preorder almost anything these days (people were preordering the WiiU well before knowing release date, price etc...) I mentioned that this have not appeared on Amazon yet (please go check yourself and if you can find the book and send me a screenshot of it I'll pay you a beer)....Seems I am not the only one who needs to read carefully, right ;) ?

  22. Posted

    I am sure it will be released one day but I was hoping to read it as soon as possible and the lack of updates makes me lose interest in it, especially after the authors built a good hype around it with countdowns, news, previews...a lot of books appear on Amazon for preorder even months before they become available but this one hasn't even made a quick appearance so far...

  25. Posted

    Well, I would have bought without a doubt for twice the money or more a color edition with more and better images. In order to spend even more on it I would have considered a "coffee table book" approach but I know that not all the people would have spent on it, so I can't blame the book publisher for having chosen the current format. By the way, as I said, I do not regret buying it since it is worth reading (I would only have preferred some more anecdotes or some deeper insights). Just a small suggestion from my side: please fix the description on Amazon, removing the reference to the high quality images. You will give a better description of the book and your customers will be happy in any case since the book contents are good.

     

    One thing I didn't like is that the description on Amazon says "high quality images" while in fact we have B&W, slightly blurry pictures.

     

    I understand. A lot of the images were the highest quality available, especially the older ones. Some of it is the printers fault too, but that we can't change. The B/W part was mostly for cost purposes, with the color version costing more than double. Would you have rather paid more for the color edition?

     

    Thanks for your feedback.

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