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This I gotta see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lle-YFt82aQ

Hmmmm zero rated bidder has ultra rare ST Book and this does not get you suspicious? Some kind of special nobs bidding this auction up

I've never played any of the Ultima games. Is 5 difficult, would it be best to start on an older version? Even 6 was released on some 8bits, 6 actually looks the best in screenshots.

Rotz whatever tune that is from is quite nice, suits the Pokey soundchip, Lightforce (slidetest) is just nothing like the original, without the Terminator drum effects and the powerful basey lead instrument it will never work. Thing on a Spring (diashow) doesn't really have the funkyness of the SID instruments (weird harpsichordy thing and mainshum from baseline of the single"Choose Life") is missing but it is a good melody in its own right so it's kind of OK but different really.

Hucking Fell, £400 for a 16k Atari 400 on ebay UK but this week in the USA an Atari 800, 1010, 1050 and printer ALL boxed was sold for the equivalent of £137! I want an 800 and 400 too but not paying UK prices. Time to hit the US site for a stored search haha eBay Auction -- Item Number: 110886749089

Ebay UK sellers of Atari "R@RE" items are f*$#ing pr*cks £300 for the same Mega ST for 18 months and he hasn't pegged it won't sell, ditto the £300 XEGS in ripped up box.

My point was, as far as musical hardware, Pokey/SID/AY/YM/TED were all rendered obsolete even by 1977 analogue synths anyway. That's why I find 'my sound chip is better than yours ner ner' silly. There are two types, sample based with DACs, or traditional with ADSR and defined waveform. I've had a session on the KORG MS-10, and well I wouldn't bother with any sound chip now for doing retro remakes tbh. In a funny turn of events the Nintendo DS has a KORG MS-10 emulator called DS-10 We may get nostalgic over old computer tunes, hence SAP and HVSC archives exist, but 80s musicians also feel the same nostalgia for pioneering synth sounds, hearing their original melody on old synths make them grin just like us hearing our favourite game tune haha In a funny way this is why I don't like 99% of Amiga game tunes, Jay Miner gave us something where your only limit was imagination and it must be 4 channels max, we got the same old shit instruments from the same old shit late 80s samples for 10 years. I expected amazing unique sampled instruments with every Portia/Paula tune. Very few songs made use of this technology by sampling/creating NEW instruments for the tunes. RIB is the exception, his Super Stardust tunes on the A1200 are better than most released bit of trance/trip-hop music, only Orbital's tunes equal that game soundtrack IMO As I said though, I am curious to hear these demos. I believe there was an article about AMY in Atari User UK wasn't there?

I must disagree with that. Pop music over the past half decade has been on a retro kick and has been using SID chips [Timbaland, especially] and other retro audio tech for catchy sounds. And thus the AMY - and of course the POKEY - deserves as much attention [and consideration] as they can get. Well then they are the stupid ones because whilst a SID can do a tiny subset of what the KORG MS-10 can do, the KORG MS-10 can do everything the SID can do. I am not sure how the AMY chip works but to be honest you can replicate any non analogue synth sound easily and there are far more sophisticated methods of getting such 'retro' noise using a real analogue synth without using old computer chips (which are inferior to even late 70s monosynths). Fine if you were doing a remix of a C64 game tune and wanted to keep some authentic instrument(s) but otherwise it's full of fail. As for the original poster, I think he is quite right to ask about this mythical machine. I for one would love to hear what it could do, so if there is a youtube video of said CES demos please post a link. It's just curiosity, I already know the best sound chip on any home computer was that of the Acorn Archimedes (8 channel sampled sound with stereo panning in software).

Is there enough CPU time to actually make it sound like a SID and a lot less like Pokey playing a 2khz sampled waveform? Forget the 5 channel soundtracks with two sample channels and 3 waveforms pumping out I guess too?

It's all just a guide really, I will be sifting through about 3000 games on 10 different machine brands/formats before I decide a list of 100 for each machine. Just thought it would be nice to hear other people's suggestions and tally them up. Once I have a shortlist of 100 games I will indeed check out Atarimania ratings at that point to see what people rate highest on my list and work from there.

Just see it as converted to 5200 on other computer game archive sites sometime. It's even on the C64 (not great).

Anyone making USB PC keyboard to Mega ST adaptor?

The only sensible upgrade to Yamaha YM of original ST would have been a true stereo (ie panning control of each channel)4 channel DAC with ring modulation, 4 complex filters and synchronization. Amiga and especially Acorn Archimedes showed us what restrictive junk the MT32 PC/SNES/MEGADRIVE/PC-Engine traditional choices were. The future was DACs. We got some 2 channel low rent junk only for STE + YM rubbish. What were they thinking!

Vroom/F1 is polygon mostly, don't really like it sorry.

Not interested in polygon games below Microprose F1GP 2 on Pentium II PC, want a nice Lotus II style game engine with F1 cars and tracks for ST

I was looking for something like F17 challenge by Team 17 on Amiga. It's like Atari Grand Prix but no downloads (but think TOSEC has Amiga version), surely we should preserve it for the ST? (It's not Goeff Crammonds polygon based Formula 1 btw)

This game is listed as a conversion here and there but can find no screenshots. Prototype or vapourware?

Thanks to everyone, please keep them coming though. The more the merrier I think

I am doing a website with covers/downloads/magazine reviews/gameplay vids etc, I could play 400 or so and pick 100 but I may miss some obvious good titles Yes other 8 bit computers will be included in time, like MSX, CPC, ZX Spectrum,TI-99, COCO/Dragon, Thomson M05, Oric, Vic20, C64.

I think it was MagicPC but that only has German downloads and the page I visited had both German and English versions to download, but the version number of the English one was lower. Aranym looks interesting, thanks for posting that AFROS Live CD minimum specs say Pentium, so I am guessing the native drivers for video cards are going to be ones from a decade ago?

All I remember is the German language version was more developed than the English version, it was posted on another forum about 6 months ago. Someone asked me to translate it! (don't speak German) Never said it would be easy but it is the future. It is something the Amiga community are lucky to have with decade of work on AROS but it is so much more than just using an emulator to play Shadow of the Beast on a PC. I think it is the way forward, GEM application level compatibility followed by hooks to kick in a full blown emulator (which one though??) when the system needs actual shifter/YM/68000 emulation etc.

Been away from Atari computers for a very long time but I am trying to do some top 100s for computers and obviously there are 1000s of games for these 8bit machines. The only stipulation is the games must be joystick controlled (no strategy or adventure games then)and also have a 1 player facility (so no 2 player only games please) Also please if you are going to quote another post put your game nominations at the top and your quotes and comments underneath. So if people could post their top 25 games so I could tally up a top 100 total that would be great thanks

Quite horrible! It sounds like Lightforce tune from Rob Hubbard played on a set of rusty steel drums by some retards with a stylophone for accompaniment. Anyone who thinks this is even close is bloody tone deaf and should never post about music EVER Reminded me of this, and gets as close to the original as this guy gets to the original released song he is playing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIhQKJ40UHM Pictures are nice though

It does sound like SID but only if the output was sampled on a 520STFM at 8khz and played back via the internal Amstrad/Spectrum sound chip of the STFM using software sample player! Amazingly the Commando rendition using SIDVICIOUS on the 1mhz VIC-20 sounds cleaner hmmmm It's a good chip sure but I don't see the fascination with trying to replicate it via the Pokey chip, waste of time as the Atari already has other advantages and you can get a C64 for five bucks on ebay if you are that desperate for SID music

PC CD-ROM was rubbish, but it did show it's advantages early on. You could pay £120 for Viewpoint cartridge for NeoGeo or you could pay £40 for the same game for the NeoGeo CD Let's face it, even the CD32 pissed on 66mhz 486 "multimedia PC" from about 10,000 feet above