Gorf
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Good points Gorf
, I personally would hate to see [email protected]'s Jaguar trashed because he overheated components trying to do a BJL mod I so adamently recommended. Yes, I feel like it's a sin to possibly destroy the Jaguar's that are left, when other loading options are available for a bit more money.penny wise and pound foolish is not the way to go.This is very true, my grandmother has said that very thing to me several times and often questions some of my actions in trying to save money here or there, because of the consequences that arise in the methods of saving a buck.
So [email protected]'s - please do not attempt to solder all those little pins; if you are not up on your soldering skills. I would hate to read a future post of your's sayin: "Dudes! This BJL chip doesn't work! Nothing is happening when I turn it on!, do you think I overheated or shorted something?"
lol.Have someone experienced do it for you for a little extra if you need to - there are fewer and fewer Jags left every year.
Best of luck, and let us know how the mod turns out.
Believe me OB....I dont post things to be confrontational, regardless of popular opinon. I do so out of
experience. Im glad you understand the logic behind my reasoning. I dont think Im smarter than you either.
I understand why some like to think I am simply starting trouble. But at the same time I dont mind helping
even if it means taking a few shots on the chin for it.
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It looks like I may have to skip out on the HSC this game...I dont think I have the RAM locations for
it...I've used just about every last byte and still need a few more variables for other things. I may
have to add outboard RAM to the cart which may increase the game's cost. I was not looking to have to
do this.
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I just need the code specs to use it. Unfortunately, I know nothing about it's
use or its specifications, nor do I have one to try it out during development.
http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/142139-high-score-cart-source-code/
You are most gracious...thanks WIZ.
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I just need the code specs to use it. Unfortunately, I know nothing about it's use or its specifications, nor do I have one to try it out during development.
The specs and documentation are somewhere on Curt Vendel's website, I think. If you want one to use for development, PM me and I'd be glad to let you borrow mine. It doesn't seem to hold its scores, and I can't figure out why (flaky battery clip, I think), but it would be good enough to use for testing.
I know it's very late in the development process to add a major feature like this, so I don't want you to think I'm asking you to do it; I just wanted to make the offer.
I appreciate the offer too but I'll have to look a the specs and see if it is worth it. I may just add it on cart somehow.
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High Score Cart compatibility would be fantastic, if possible.
I just need the code specs to use it. Unfortunately, I know nothing about it's
use or its specifications, nor do I have one to try it out during development.
I may have to DL ProSystems sources and add an HS cart feature to it, among
other things.
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If your rich, fine but others are not and do need to save every penny.
I was just thinking that a bjl chip would be his cheapest option $50 is $50 bucks that's food for a week. He may not have the extra dough for a ProtSE investment right now as much as you want him to get it.
I know the smartest way about coding the JAguar, that is for sure.
Why take the chance and spend another 80+ on a new Jaguar when all you need
is a cart? you at least get a great game to play. Same with the CD player.
Not the case with a chip mod which is useless if you never bother to learn to code.
Also, modding then prevents you from use of an Alpine or
a Skunk in the future without another mod. not to mention
game incompatibility.
A little common sense here.
Im not rich by any means but penny wise and pound foolish is not the way to go.
But what do I know? I've only been doing this for over 14 years now.
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Why not ? It's the cheapest option by far, and it's harmless if you know what you're doing.ugh. I wouldnt recommend mod chipping anymore.That's right!
It is THE cheapest way to go for a beginner, since to use Boz's BJL player you still need to buy an $200.00 expensive Jaguar CD Player! 
However, ProtSE is only $80.00 so that would still be 5 times as expensive as chip modding.
It would also be 2000% safer than hacking up your Jag. Not to mention, if you blow up
your Jaguar trying to mod it(and that is not hard to do) you just blew at least $80
anyway.
.....have you ever...
A ) coded the Jag?
B ) Hacked your Jag for a BJL mod?
C ) Hacked your Jag for a JagServer mod?
I've done all three. I know you are trying to help but for goodness sake, unless you know
something we dont, let the experienced give the advice for everyone's well being.
Moding your Jag is dangerous to your console, unecessary and quite frankly dumb, and as far as
Im concerned should not be considered as an option any more....at one time it was THE ONLY OPTION
and there was no other choice around it except a $5000 dollar dev kit from Atari who were rather
picky about who they sold them to.
$80 For a game that allows dev is a very good investment. At least with the PSE cart, you still
have a good game left if you dont stay with coding the Jaguar. The CD Player with a 10 cent CD
burn and a free download is the best beginner option hands down.
Oh and also tht $200 Cd player allows you to play games you cant play on a modded Jaguar. It is
a win, win win all around.
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Looking great, Gorf.
Looking forward to getting this on cart myself
I don't know if you've seen my replies, but I needed to try and get Frenzy out of the way before I look at Gorf - I hope that's ok.
...and I really appreciate you sending me what you have done so far.
Thanks,
Bob
No probelm Bob and yes I've seen your replies...I ven wrote back too. Also I intend to help you with Gorf
and the other games I talked about. Also, there will always be a coopy of my games for you my good friend
even if you are the only one that wants it.
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ugh. I wouldnt recommend mod chipping anymore.
Why? If he can solder or have a good solderer do it, it is the BEST BJL option to have. Yes, Boz's disc is free, quite sufficient, and easiest though, I will give you that.
Because it is completely unecessary to mod your Jag anymore. Why take a chance when you can simply plug in a cart(PSE) or a CD pllayer and burn
a disc? If these did not exsist I could understand but even then, he said he knows little to nothing about coding the Jaguar. I do not care what
kind of homebrewing he may have done in the past, it doe snot come close to the headache you have to deal with coding the Jaguar.
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Hi I just purchased a Jaguar from my local retro gaming store in the hopes of doing some good homebrew gaming now i have little to no exp. so i want to ask how do you start modding/hombrewing the Atari Jaguar
Dont mod your jaguar..this is not necessary anymore.Forget the skunk board. Get a CD player and BJL or a Protector SE
cart before you try to invest tons of time and see if you even have the apptitude to deal with coding the Jaguar.
Otherwise you will spend a lot of money for something you may not be willing to deal with. At least the Cd will allow
you to enjoy games on the Jaguar where a skunk board does'nt really help. Anything out there that is legal to use on
a Jaguar will load with a BJL anyway. If you then see that you can handle a five processor system, then you might want
to consider a skunk board.
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Wolfenstein doesn't do ceilings and floors - its not the same thing
Or multi floors and stairs and mid room objects.
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The Jaguar version of Doom is pretty low-resolution, too - definitely less than the 320 pixels/lines used on the PC version.
Is a resolution increase planned in Death Tongue, by the way ?
Wolfenstein 3D show it's possible to have a higher resolution while keeping a smooth framerate, but maybe the engine is optimized better.
Unless they re-write the engine and drop a ton of 68k and move it over to the GPU, that aint happening.
DOOM is a much more cycle intense engine. W3D was a simple ray caster with few objects in the open areas
of the floor and one level , where as DOOM uses mid room objects such as pilars, and uses stairs and
upper and lower floors. The game logic and AI is also more cycle intensive. Carmack said it is possible
but would take a lot of work. I would not count on it unless Belboz and ViMaster intend to port the 68k
code over to GPU main RAM and re-write the gfx and sfx RISC engines in assembler.
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It's ok if you miss the first run as my policies with Jaguar are here as well...I willsupply carts for as long as there is reasonable demand. With the 7800, that can be as
low as a few carts at a time since the availability of parts is more robust.
That's very good to hear. THANK YOU for doing it this way. One of the things that has been so frustrating to me, (to the point that I just plain gave up messing with the Atari community for several years), is that releases almost ALWAYS seemed to be perfectly timed with difficult financial periods of my life. Then when I'd have a decent paying job, items would be sold out.
I know how you feel and its one of the reasons I try to accomodate in this manner.
Now as long as we dont start having issues like I've had with the Jaguar community,
everything should be smooth sailing.
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Since we are on the subject of tiny and adorable women....(of topic mind you)
Ricci is not bad but I take WR anyday over her...those eyes.... but I still like Linda Cardellini
Loved her as Velma.... a Freak Geek chick like that is right up my alley.
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Wow! The personalization is awesome! A wonderful touch for a homebrew!
KING! Great to hear from you my old friend!
It's much easier to do this on the 7800.....I would have done this with the Jag games but the blasted
encryption makes it alot harder(and Jagmod was not into doing it which pissed me off but........)the
encryption on the 7800 is not so bad.
It was couple years ago that I was pestering you about getting a copy of Gorf Classic for the Jag... you did tell me to be patient. Looks like my patience will pay off! I may not play the Jag game, but I'll get to play a similar opus from the mind of Gorf!
Well if all goes well with PacManPlus, you may still be able to play Gorf....just not on the Jaguar(as
things stand there wont be anymore Jag titles from me until I see a major improvement on the part of
certain 'fans'
.)I do regret not getting someone as loyal and freindly to me as you have been all these years a copy
of Gorf Classic CD for your Jag. My regret for many of you that wanted this game is unable to be put
into words.
Any chance of getting an autographed cart from you when the day comes?
I appreciate the honor but then I'd have to do that for everyone.....though that is not out of the
question. But the personalization alone would make it as unique as one could hope for. At very least
consider the game my personal autograph to all of you 7800 fans out there.
(Why anyone would want my autograph is beyond me, but truly, you honor me by asking.)
Oh... will you be drawing up a manual to go with the game too? I don't need a box but a manual is
always cool to look at!
I thought about doing this but that will only make the cost go up. The game will retail at $40 plus
shipping without these as it is. A large portion of the proceeds are going to help someone pay for
meds and food. Someone we all know and love. I'll do an online ode to the game perhaps though.
I'd love nothing more than to be able to add a Box and manual as I always like to put out a product
as professional as I can. What I may do is allow someone to offer them after the fact only if they
can do so without breaking their own bank and at a very low cost( or for free as a nice jesture) to
those that want it.
A year and a half and the results are looking great! And if this isn't ready until next Christmas,
it will be even better! I know how much of a perfectionist you are! Great stuff!
Well I hope to get it out by summer if all goes well but I never put dates in stone ...it could take
much longer than that. Unless God almighty has other plans for me, I want this out the door and in
your 7800 cart slots ASAP.
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She is adorable....even if she is a little theiving beotch!
Every classic game from the 80's updated in 3D....nothing different
if game play or sounds...just 3D.....Too bad it wont ever happen now.
At least I wont bother anymore.
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This is totally cool and the idea of having the cart personalized is also neat. I'll be keeping an eye out for when these are ready.
It's ok if you miss the first run as my policies with Jaguar are here as well...I will
supply carts for as long as there is reasonable demand. With the 7800, that can be as
low as a few carts at a time since the availability of parts is more robust.
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Looks good Gorf! Nice and colorful. Welcome to the 8-bit world of Atari. I'm sure you will find that dropping those extra 56-bits will help your sanity.
Just out of curiosity, will you be doing anything for the 8-bit computers or do you want to stick to just the consoles?
Stephen Anderson
Let's see how this goes. I bring here with me my pricipals and my policies. They dont change just because the
console Im coding on does. The only change is the console I code on now. I however never close doors forever.
Perhaps some day the Jaguar community will grow the F up and I can finally realize
my dreams for that machine....until then, its over.
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6M carts are possible right
Sure and very expensive....I bet the cart cost more than $80 easy.
Not to mention those without a CD wont be able to play the WAD's.
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This looks like its going to be a great release Gorf and look forward to playing it but I do suggest you change the name becuase everytime I hear it I just think of the Lynx game and I am sure others do too. Birds Of War?
My good man....Please read the thread topic title. It's a working title.
I already have an official name for it too. I dont need any crap from the
likes of Infogrames....grames of what? What the F##k is a grame anyway?
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Hi Gorf
Looks great.Sure,i want a cart too.So i hope Chicky will put me on a list.
greetings Walter
Im quite sure she will be more than glad to process your order.
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Nice job Gorf! can`t wait for the cart! I`ll take one!!
Thanks for your support, everyone!
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Hi Gorf,
It seems you found your place in the 7800 scene after all those woes in the Jaguar scene. Great to see you enjoy working on a 7800 title. Of course I will buy a cart when it is ready.
I like the personalized carts. I think it can (partly) prevent the E-bay whoring that you dislike. I too dislikes it to see that home-brew releases fetch high prices on E-bay while the original author gets nothing from it.
Robert
Thanks Rob! Well, Im going to prevent E-whoring by keeping the product available. It's the same policy we
have for any platform....unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond my control, Gorf Classic was something
I cant do that with. I could have charged a ridiculous price for it and probably would have gotten it too.
Im not looking to kill anyone but make back my cost and maybe a little bit extra for my efforts and for the
folks that help me with production.
Im trying to get Jagmod and Terance to re-produce more Mad Bodies Carts with the change made so no one can
perpetrate that either. The 7800 is much easier to deal with in that regard as thre are many more parts
available, they are cheaper and not nearly as hard to reproduce. There are also a lot more 7800 fans out
there.
The 7800 is by far much easier to code for on top of all of this. If only the Jag was this simple to deal with.
But Im dumping out of the Jag game scene, unless I see a real change in the 'clientel'.Fact is, if I see this game posted on E-Slut for some ridiculous price, I will post some there at regular price
to put and end to it quickly. If someone wants to honor the fairness system and sell their cart, what I'll do is
this.
If they contact me and let me know they no longer want the cart, I will put them in contact with someone who does.
I think it's win win for everyone except the the likes of master e-whores like SSFU.
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Last warning, next argumentative post or any after will or could on mod preview and the thread will be locked.but here it seems like every other JAg person is a dumb fuck.Did you hear you name called when I posted that?
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