Bones Brigade

The funny part is, LCD isn't even the best of the newer HDTV formats. LED, Plasma, and especially DLP are Way better for both modern and classic gaming. DLP is the best of all formats. No burn-in or permanent pixel shading(still happens in LCD and especially plasma). Better refresh rates/no lag time. Some even work with light gun and Sega CD games!

Oh goodness. There should be a facepalm emoticon on this board, because most of this post is just plain fiction. I would say I would like to agree to disagree, but I'm pretty sure you'd find a way to say that CRT's are better than agreeing to disagree, so I'll just leave this thread in hopes that you feel satisfied in your own personal opinoins and wish you well. adieu.

I absolutely love my 65" Mitsubishi 3D-DLP for all kinds of gaming, Atari right up through PS3.

Maybe you love the blurred, color-smeared fake "anti-aliased" look of a typical CRT. I don't know that you speak for a majority of anything though so the whole "Most of us" bit you're running with here seems a bit arrogant. There's a reason why many people learned how to video-mod their older consoles for Composite and S-Video (and even component and higher resolution). Some people prefer a sharper picture, and clearly defined graphics. Maybe not you, but many. Good for you. I've had I don't know how many CRT TV's die or have significant components blow, or have the color convergence or focus drift out of normal over the years. I've never had any of these problems with an LCD, Plasma, or DLP. None. Not once. and I've been using LCD, Plasma, and DLP TV's and monitors since the late 90's. Anyone with a set of stereo speakers from the same era as their CRT TVs (70s/80s - even into the 90s) before Speaker manufacturers started using proper shielding for home theater applications has at least seen the effect on a tube TV when any large magnet gets placed close to the Tube. TV speakers are tiny, >5 watt crap. Put a large set of stereo speaker near an old TV and tell me you don't see awful rainbow banding and blurring. I've seen it a ton, especially on cheaper brand CRTs and rear projection CRTs. Proper calibratio for older sets like this costs a fortune. I know. I do it on the side. It all depends on the input type, sheilding, and filtering. many LCD and other panel types have filtering options that limit or eliminate certain kinds of rf noise. There isn't a single CRT TV made that has this ability, and there aren't LCD or other modern TV formats that still have the "Two Screws for the antenna" 300 ohm input type like many old CRTs had. Coaxial inputs can help, but still, RF inputs of any kind in general suck ass.

I have both. I held onto the CRT only because of light gun and SegaScope 3D games. My Samsung LCD actually has a fantastic picture, even with the older consoles, especially my Composite modded Atari 7800. The Sega Master System, Genesis, and 32x all look stellar on my LCD. I think many retrogamers dismiss LCD and other modern platforms out of pure spite. A shitty, cheap LCD is going to look bad on retro consoles. A nicer, more costly one can look good to even great. They're also a lot easier to fine-tune and keep running well. CRTs are problematic with magnetic interference from speakers and other sources, and tubes tend to have long term problems with convergence drift that can never be completely rectified as they age. CRTs also tend to be much more susceptible to RF interference than LCD, plasma, & DLP.

As for FPS - Robot Tank and Starmaster are fantastic.

How old are you? Stop being rude. Albert has a ton of things going on, he doesn't need your abuse.

River Raid gets my #1 spot Chopper Command is pretty great. Phoenix, Vanguard are competent Worm War I is fantastic for an oddball title. Millipede is better than Centipede, but both are pretty great.

7800 Sega Master System Sega Genesis Sega 32X Sony PS2 Sony PSP Sony PS3

The only negative effect is that it will make the 2600 version of Atari's Dark Chambers not work. Atari added the capacitor as part of a timing circuit to later 7800 models to make 2600 Dark Chambers work, but it rendered the Starpath Supercharger and a few Activision FE Bankswitched games unplayable. I just removed it, because really - the 2600 version of Dark Chambers is awful, Those Activision games (Robot Tank, Decathlon, Space Shuttle) are among the best games ever made for the 2600, there's a 7800 version of Dark Chambers that's much better anyway, and if you REALLY want to play 2600 Dark Chambers on a modded 7800, it works through the Harmony cart.

Any 7800 that has trouble with the starpath or those activision games can very easily be modified to work with all of them by simply removing one capacitor from the board. There's instructions on how to do this mod in the 7800 forum and in an article by Joe Grand on the internet (Google finds it)

Sarcasm and the Internet do not make great bedfellows. You know what classic C64 era game I'd love to see ported to the 7800? Ghostbusters!

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who was a kid or a teen in the 80's was a Nintendo fanboy. I would have expected less blatant NES favoritism on a site called Atariage.com. Oh well, I guess its just inescapable. */back to lurking*

Well, given that by the time Super Mario 3 was out, it was 1990, and I was 18 years old, me and my friends weren't exactly going over to each other's house to "play" any more. LOL. I had one other friend who had a 7800, who I traded games with, but on the occasions where I was at someone's house who had NES, there seemed to be more time spent blowing into carts only to receive then Flashing Grey Screen of NES Disappointment than anything else.

I don't know that it's fake. I had the 7800 back in 1987 when my friends mostly had Nintendo, and I liked it way better then too. The Arcade Conversions were way better on the 7800, and I didn't like all the flicker in the NES games.

psst... http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/200736-atari-7800-homebrew-thread/

262 lines isn't a full frame, it's half. A full frame is 480.

Actually, it's 30 in NTSC and 25 in PAL. Those were the native fps rates of pre-HD televisions. The frame alternates an interlaced signal. It would only be truly 60 fps if it were capable of outputting a progressive scan image, which it doesn't do.

You don't need to. Just have Albert or someone else here who makes 7800 carts make you a cart of the modded Centipede-TB BIN and use a stock 2600 CX-22/CX-80 Trak-ball.

Unless you have an existing TV with S-Video you'd like to use, there's really little reason to go for the infinitely more complicated to install and problematic Longhorn mod. Most TV manufacturers have dropped the S-Video format as their legacy connection in favor of composite. The "easier 7800 video mod" listed above is simple, elegant, and does a great job on composite. It looks better on a real CRT TV than it does on an all digital HDTV set, but then so do almost all old console systems that are pre-HD. And it's really cheap on parts and quick to assemble.

A quick search of the boards reveals that the Longhorn mod is very problematic. More complaints about it than positive reviews. I would check to make sure there aren't any bridged solder joints where the chip is removed for the socket. Could BA a bad TIA chip, but it just sounds like a short.

Ax - two things are obvious there. Her husband or boyfriend is the collector she hates, not you. The store doesn't sell anything because it's a front for drugs. They likely have a meth lab in the back and launder the money through the store.

If this idea can keep the ridiculously inflated "Collector" prices in check so that the rest of us can enjoy playing these games without worrying about getting price gouged for them, I'm all for it.

I always liked Karateka too, because I never had any other version either.