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Stereo CAD-3D 2.02 - Does not seem to have copy protection. Create a double sided disk and copy contents to disk or just copy to your hard drive.
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Cymermate 1.1 - Does not seem to have copy protection. Create a single sided disk and copy contents to disk or just copy to your hard drive.
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Cyber Scuplt - Does not seem to have copy protection. Create a single sided disk and copy contents to disk or just copy to your hard drive.
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Cyber Texture - Does not seem to have copy protection. Create a single sided disk and copy contents to disk or just copy to your hard drive.
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Cyber Paint 2.1 - Does not seem to have copy protection. Create single sided disks and copy contents to disks or just copy to your hard drive.
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I messed around with the SuperCard pro today and found that I do not have a compatible floppy drive. Ordered one. So I am going to continue to post while that is in transit with plans to back track and do all previous titles in the .SCP format when the drive arrives. In fact, I will attempt to supply an unprotected version alongside of the .SCP format for titles that can be unprotected. I will also try to supply an .ST or .STX format where I can.
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Anyone can do whatever they want with my posts, but I will only be posting here.
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I did not see mega ste in the list. Does any mega count for that?
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15 hours ago, callaghan said:modula disks ever become available?
It is in this thread: My Software Library: A Preservation Effort
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Modula-2
There does not seem to be any copy protection on this set. Create two single sided disk and copy the contents to each disk or directly to the Hard drive.
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I tested the install after I copied the files from the disks and re-created with blank disks. I then transferred the files to the PC using the UIP Tool. I then transferred back. re-created the disks and test the install again. It all worked great.MWC v3.09.zipMark Williams C .ST Images.zip
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Over the years I have acquired a bit of software, 8bit and ST, and apparently some of it is not available on the internet. I decided a couple of months ago to archive this software so the Atari community can have access to it and I purchased a SuperPro Card to archive it in the original format including protection schemes. I ran into a couple of problems that kind of put me off of archiving it.
1. I applied to become a part of the Atari 8-bit Software Preservation Initiative, but was declined to become a member, no reason given.
2. I sent an email to AtariMania to recover an old account I have with them so I can post software images and I have yet to hear back from them.
Now, a couple of months later, I again have the bug to archive all this software due to an inquiry to one of the software titles that I have. I do have a medical condition that limits the amount of time I can put forth in this effort, but I will try to post software now and then. I do still have to learn the SuperCard Pro and some of my initial postings will not be in that format, but I am building a device to automate the process as much as possible.
At the moment, I have some ST titles to post. When I have 8bit titles to post I will create a thread under the 8bit forum and create a link here and vice versa.
To: Atari 8-bit Software Preservation Initiative and AtariMania you are welcome to use anything I post, but you will have to come here to get it.
Posted software listing:
American Civil War, The Scenario Disk 1
Atari Application Seires - Power Basic
Atari ST Language Disk CA026062-001
Atari ST Language Disk CA026062-002
Atari ST Language Disk CA026062-004
BRE PD Disks #65 - Music Studio Songs
BRE PD Disks #174 - Music Studio Songs
BRE PD Disks #175 - Music Studio Songs
BRE PD Disks #328 - Music Studio Songs
BRE PD Disks #1465 - Lachdraw v0.5, ST Gallery V1.0, Mithril 3-D Animation, Mac Image
BRE PD Disks #1499 - Superboot V7.4
BRE PD Disks #1528 - Crack Art V1.0
Calamus Vector Graphic Clip Art
Calamus Vector Graphic Clip Art Group 3
Compute's Atari St Disk Feb 1987
Compute's Atari St Disk Apr 1988
Emagic Logic Full White Labels
Emagic Logic Blue and White Labels
LUM-Tech Public Domain (LTPD) Disk #2 - The Revenge Document Displayer V2.01, Poker Dice
Mark Williams BC Programmable Calculator
Music Software Exchange - CASU02 - Casio Synth Utilities
Music Software Exchange - DBAS01, DBAS02 - Data Base Librarian
Music Software Exchange - DFIL02 - Data File Librarian
Music Software Exchange - Music Software Catalog Disk 5
Music Software Exchange - PAEM01 - Proteus 1/1XR Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR02 - Roland D50 Patch Banks - Unable to Archive
Music Software Exchange - PATR03 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR04 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR05 - Roland D50 Patch Banks - Unable to Archive
Music Software Exchange - PATR06 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR07 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR08 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR09 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR10 - Roland D50 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR11 - Roland D5,10,110,20 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR12 - Roland D5,10,110,20 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR14 - Roland D5,10,110,20 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR15 - Roland D5,10,110,20 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - PATR16 - Roland D5,10,110,20 Patch Banks
Music Software Exchange - ROLU01 - Roland Synth Utilities
Music Software Exchange - STDN01 - Song Bytes Dance Styles
NeoDesk 3.01,3.02,3.03 to 3.04 Upgrade
PDC Disk 673 - ST Writer Elite V3.8
People, Places & Things Disk 1
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7 hours ago, DarkLord said:You can change the bootup name of those devices. Of course
that won't change their original name but at least on screen,
you'd get a different name.
That actually does not matter as it is imprinted on the PCB
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There is some good info in there, thanks.
For me, I like to keep to the original TOS for the most compatibility but I do use Teradesk for the desktop. I also run SyQuest drives on all four of my setups. This gives me an easy way to transfer files between computers and also gives me a way to store stuff on removeable media when necessary. The way I setup the SD cards internally in the HD case, it is not practical to use them to transfer files or for removeable media storage.
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I just read up on the ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II. The ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II can use SCSI III disk drives and is compatible with the AdSCSI plus, so it will work with single target 32 gig SD Cards as a single drive.
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So all you guys that have an ICD AdSCSI Plus interface or a Link II, can add a SCSI2SD interface to your existing HD case and have massive storage relatively inexpensively.
If you have a Supra Interface, you can get up to 4 gigs out of it, depending your number of open SCSI IDs.
If you have a case with a non-working Interface, you can also get an ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II plus a SCSI2SD and get massive storage. Remember, you will need to use one of the DB19 ports from the old interface soldered to the 20 pin cable that is included with the ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II. This allows you to use regular external ACSI cables.
You can get all this while maintaining the retro look (original cases and ICD/Supra Interfaces) of your system.
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So I decided to also test the Supra interface. The Copyright 1989 version is limited to 1 gig drives. But unlike the MF44, it does allow you to use all 4 SCSI IDs the SCSI2SD has available. for TOS 1.04 that gives you 8 partitions at 512 MB each. I supposed you could use a second SCSI2SD to get your partitions out to Drive P. I personally like to withhold a couple drive letters for temporary add-on drives.
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So after some testing. I am able to set up the SCSI2SD device as 1 target at 32 gigs and partition from there from either an AdSCSI or a Link II. I even copied the entire C drive to the P drive (the last partition) and then erased it with no malfunctions. I know using a 32 gig SD card is a waste, but when you have tons of them and they all cost near nothing, who cares.
I modified the OP to reflect the changes.
Thanks PLM.
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18 minutes ago, ParanoidLittleMan said:That could be correct name, I just saw that ADIPLUS somewhere recently. I had it, but not anymore. Probably that plus in name means exactly that is capable over 1 GB - with their driver, for instance. Can't say for Link II, but I'm sure that google is smarter in it than me 🙂
It'll do some testing and report back
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41 minutes ago, DarkLord said:Hmm, just so I've got this right. You're saying you won't buy a Satandisk or an Ultrasatan
because it has "satan" in it's name? Just curious.
Oh...never mind...I guess you won't reply to my post because I use the alias "DarkLord".
Because of the name? Yes
To me, your handle is not the same.
16 minutes ago, ParanoidLittleMan said:There are other devices what can over 1 GB - Gigafile, original ICD ADIplus adapters for SCSI disks - they established so called ICD ACSI protocol, and modern devices use it too. Or Mega STE internal ACSI-SCSI adapter modded by me, and others after:
http://atari.8bitchip.info/modmste1.html
I mentioned UltraSatan simply because it is most spread. Blame Jookie for name.
You mention ADIPLUS, do you mean AdSCSI plus? So I should be able to put on a drive over 1gig on my AdSCSi devices? Does that also work for Link II devices?
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11 minutes ago, ParanoidLittleMan said:Well, considering sizes of old and today 'in' mass storage, it is really not problem to place some modern adapter and media (in most cases SD card) in case of old hard drive case. For me biggest question is noise - how to achieve that it produce similar one as old hard disks + maybe cooling fan ? Well, if old disk still spins, PSU is operational, that's solved pretty well.
I like the retro look of the older drives, so the noise is really not a problem for me and it is expected.
12 minutes ago, ParanoidLittleMan said:"The external limit per drive on the ACSI port is 1 gig," - that's just not correct. It is actually SW, original ACSI protocol limit. And ICD overrode it some 25 years ago, by solving sending 8 byte SCSI commands instead by ACSI protocol used 5 byte (SASI) commands.
ICD overrode it some 25 years ago? Is that because of their HD software? if so, HDDriver and your SW does the same thing? I stand corrected. I will have to test this out on my modified MF44.
20 minutes ago, ParanoidLittleMan said:Funny thing to read such thing when plenty of people using UltraSatan attached to ACSI port, with SD cards of 4-16 GB typically now. And that 16 GB stays for 1 drive only (1 target #) . I tested UltraSatan with 32 and 64 GB SD cards, and 30x 1 GB partitions (iTOS) ant it works fine - single target. And 30 GB fills well 32 GB SD card, as real capacity is always less.
The real limit is TOS, Basic ACSI protocol. But that was made more than 30 years ago. And it is possible to modernize both, while keeping original TOS, Desktop look 🙂
We have discussed this before. I will never buy that unit because of the name. There are others that agree with me, but I will test the single target on my Modified MF44 and see how large I can go.
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I have several MF30s, MF44s, No-Name brands with an AdSCSI/Supra installed, ICD HD, Supra, etc. Several of these items do not work, are hard to find parts and hard drives for, but damn it, I just like the looks of this old equipment. So I though about modernizing them and keeping the retro look in my Atari Setups.
It is possible to modernize them and make use of these old cases with two items plus the old case
1. ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II from Inventronik GmbH - This item is an ACSI to SCSI adapter, similar to ICDs AdSCSI. I have not had an experience with these. I have so many AdSCSIs and Link IIs, I will not need to buy one any time soon.
2. codesrc - SCSI2SD or even a real Hard Drive
The ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II comes with the 20 pin and 50 pin cables needed for connecting drives. If you de-solder the 19 pin D-sub from the case's original interface and solder the 20 pin cable included with the ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II to it, you can use regular ACSI cables on the outside of the case to connect your modernized drive to your Atari.
You can see a modified MF44 that I have that uses this technique, but uses an AdSCSI interface here. An ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II would work just as well. You will need to scroll down a bit. As the caption in the other thread states, I received that MF44 with the AdSCSI installed in it already. I secured it down better, replaced the SyQuest 44 with a SyQuest 200 and added the SCIS2SD to the extra HD drive bracket that MF44s come with.
What do you get when you do this? The SCSI2SD that I used was version 5.0, and can be configured to use up to 4 SCSI IDs. Newer ones may be able to have more IDs, not known for sure. The ICD AdSCSI and Link II do not have the 1 gig limit like a straight ACSI device and the ACSI-SCSI Adapter Series II most likely does not either, since it is newer. I am using 32 gig Micro SD cards and have them configured for 1 SCSI target at 32 gigs and partition from there. From my experience, this is not possible on an original MF44 motherboard as it only allows 1 drive per port (there are 2) and each drive is limited to 1 gig. I partition everything for TOS 1.04 at 512 MB a partition so I can move the devices between any of my Atari Computers (ST, STE, Falcon with SCSI case, TT ACSI or SCSI case) and it remains compatible.
For the MF44, you get the SD card for partitioning how you like, plus the external port which can be any external accessible SCSI device. SyQuest XXX, CD ROM, Zip Drive, Jazz drive, etc. With a blank faceplate, it can also house a regular SCSI HD.
The MF30/MF60/SH204, get converted to being SCSI devices and you can eliminate the MFM/RLL drives that are needed for those units. It is getting very tough to find these drives any more. Of course you lose the external accessible drive, but a regular SCSI HD can be installed.
Similar to the above, Supra/ICD/No-Name brands can be setup in the same fashion.
Post your experience here on your conversion of your device.
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Yes that is what I mean
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Do a device check in HDDriver while it is in the 30 seconds of reading. Sometimes it can jar it into be readable. Be sure to have space to dump the stuff off if it does.

My Software Library: A Preservation Effort
in Atari ST/TT/Falcon Computers
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Tom Hudson's CAD-3D - Does not seem to have copy protection. Create a single sided disk and copy contents to disk or just copy to your hard drive.
CAD3-D.ZIPCAD3-D .ST Image.zip