Osgeld

this topic went deep, are you doing it to milk every penny out of having a high score, or are you gathering items out of fun and interest ... love means sacrifice sometimes, and again if your worried about ebay ... don't use ebay

dont sell them on ebay... I don't even collect and have ended up with a loose crap example of combat basketball, and what's the latest ... fumbles around heh ... super play action football. Cant give this shit to a thrift store! Make a stack of shovelware sell it as a lot for cheap here or somewhere similar knowing that those people are savvy with reality outside ebay, and just get rid of them. or just give them away for free + postage Lets say you buy a shoebox of games for 100$ yard sale, ebay, thrift store whatever, 4 of them in loose crappy condition are worth (to people, not ebay) 20-30 dollars, your either -20 bucks or + 20 bucks and have 10 more games to sell and 5 to "throw away". The one's you keep don't count cause you would have paid for them anyway

I always make it a point to remove metal badges before the process, paint and some metals do not like being saturated in warm oxygen baths

I got this with a system, but I don't need it its filthy as sin, I have seen ebay pictures with the system I bought powered up, have no idea on its health or other critical stats 5 USD + postage & paypal It has a US standard 2 prong plug and 120(ish) volts not 240

eh shame, but its hard to get those big heavy work horses gone, as far as the graphics cards in "cad workstations" most OEM's are pretty crap. I saw a fairly recent dell percision desktop float though work as no one wanted a half tower space heater, It was something like a 6th gen i7 equivalent of a xeon 16 gigs of ram (on a single stick, cause dell doesn't believe in dual channel memory) and a Nvidia Quadro card, which was a geforce GT730 with a bit more ram and whatever magic pixie dust they sprinkle in the bios to make it "different" its similar to my "cad workstation" laptop I have at work, its a nothing special 9th gen intel i7 with an ATI Fire GL graphics system which is equivalent to a potato, I once worked all day in solidworks with it (unintentionally) disabled and using intel integrated graphics, and didnt notice until I loaded in a couple fully modeled PCI-e cards and the graphics choked to a crawl lol

I mean I absolutely love it (checks credit card for toys) not today, it looks wonderful though

150 for a nice 5200 starter kit is not unreasonable in my mind at the moment we live in, I sold a 4 port model with a jank box, functional but used controllers and Ms Pacman for 75 like a decade ago

I might be interested in the computer for almost nothing + postage just for the challenge of getting it working, as I have basically no knowledge of these computers outside a couple working examples that passed though, and I think I gave the model 1 just about away with a composite mod I installed I wish you better luck than that though

I googled it and that thing is badass, if I can find one for a more reasonable price my daughter would love it (when im not using it lol)

yea the appleworks stuff wasnt bad to transfer over but I was hardly a freshmen in high school and my dad's electronics / computer skills kind of died off by then so we asked around and it was mostly text - csv files over serial port, there was a couple converter utilities we used for his customer database that put everything in a structure MS Works could use (which eventually turned into an access thing) It could be at the time and the price but other systems caught up in both really quick, and there was not much of a killer app for "Timmy Toys R US". If you needed a fairly professional graphics workstation yea it made since in its early days, just like the onboard MIDI of the ST was a fan favorite of music nerds (Live in Nashville TN, dad worked recording studios either as a instrument tech or a musician, got dragged to many studio's in my life) Yea that's about the same time period I started looking, and likewise started to envy what was going on in PC land, especially when they are posting easy financing ad's, like mmmm 386-SX/20 with VGA and a 8 bit mono sound card, only 50 bucks a month (for 259 months only 46% interest, never fell for them, but mmmm). I was just old enough (12yo) for the laws of the day and land, to spend like 20 something hours in the family biz, so I would sit out in the shop disassembling piano's or doing grunt work, re-wiring busted PA systems, replacing speakers, working on old Hammond organs, rewiring old electric guitars etc. By the end of the summer I am 13, sitting on what might as well be a million bucks saying to myself, Gee I got access to an apple II and dad's old colecovision, I would like better... bought a Genesis for games and a little while later got a 10Mhz XT machine with a meg of ram, Hercules graphics, with 3.5 AND 5.25 disk drives, along with a 20MB hard disk for a pitiful 100 bucks, monochrome monitor and keyboard included. I learned how to write pascal and C on that machine along with how to interface a computer to the physical world, I currently work as a electronics / systems / automation engineer making pc's do complicated actions in the real world Meanwhile the Amiga ... its biggest claim to fame was the video Toaster, which by 1999 was replicated with a 100$ USB capture device and 100$ software available at the local best buy ... My buddies and I converted a lot of video tapes to DVD in that era (and thanks to the amiga we had at high school I learned all that!)

I mean yea by the time Amiga was a thing cat's out of the bag on the PC, bios was the major tripping point otherwise one "could" actually go down to a radio shack and buy all the parts off the shelf and make a "PC" clone. BIOS issues sorted by Compaq, and good enough by Tandy, then by the likes of AMI and Award meant you had a FLOOOD of pc compatible "core system" components almost all at once then you just added whatever you wanted to make the machine you needed (which IBM tried to fight back with the MCA slots but they were too late and no one cared) back in high school a couple buddies and I advertised PC repair services in the town newspaper and were still getting XT class machines as late as 1995 where "jimmy's small engine shop" had used the same software since the 80's, an amiga was a hard sell for what advantage... it can play Turrican II? My dad was the same way we got a rather bitchin 486DX2/66 with sound and CD ROM and 15 inch VGA in 93? He didnt drop the Apple //e until we collectively learned how to dump all his biz data out of appleworks into something MS works could understand and hooked up the imagewriter so he could still print post cards reminding people of upcoming maintenance schedules Did I want an amiga, I dunno its hard to tell from the store kiosk at Toys-R-Us, dad was "you really want a toy computer", no I worked my butt off that summer, got a sega genesis for games and later that year picked up a turbo XT clone for like 50 bucks out of the local classifieds paper. Never gave the Amiga or ST a second thought till about 15-20 years ago, mainly from the demoscene

I assume the 8500 is pci-express?

every vintage picture I see from nintendo at the time is using a broadcast monitor not a 2001 k-mart level goldstar, heck even your first link every image is using high res computer monitors and broadcast monitors (not even really sure what 15khz has to do with anything) not all CRT's are the same ... I mean the last CRT I owned was a Toshiba 20 something inch that could display 1080i nearly pixel perfect, and since it was a knock off Trinitron after Sony's patent expired, its not unreasonable to think that a "higher end consumer unit" was fairly on par with an expensive as shit professional unit from the 80's (considering Trinitron displays date back to the late 60's) They didn't, but constraints meant they had to. I am not saying there were not tricks picked up along the way, but its not like they had lifetimes to hand sculpt the final image in your house to perfection. Edit: looking back on your first link I find one of my favorite examples Do you have any clue how tight and expensive rom storage space is in 1987? Why would a designer put that much extra data and time ... against a deadline for half of the detail and colors to be completely erased? Oh cause they could see it on their nice development (CRT, 15KHz based) systems. Obviously they saw it on better screen's than "grandpa's zenith, they bought down at sears"

some items in this quote are interesting, some are true to a point but the thing that always tweaks me We don't actually know that, things were still being designed on graph paper, programmed on higher spec computers with good computer displays and often tested on at a minimum a computer monitor or professional displays. Least to my knowledge I have never seen Miyamoto hold up his famous graph paper of Mario smeared in Vaseline nor has Coleco, Nintendo or Sega come to my house back in the day to see how their game looked on my burnt orange 12 inch black and white Kenmore portable

they have their own nerdy obsessions we overlook, my partner in crime is into sims modding and happy planner (she actually made a legit biz selling stickers made from clip art, have to file taxes and everything)

seems like they have been harder to get lately, I have a wanted thread for a tia that never really got resolved ... and I ended up buying a pair of busted 2600's just to patch together a system

if the fuse was bad and its glass you can look at it (maybe with a magnifying glass) and see if the wire inside of it is broken or burnt looking, now just replacing a fuse may or may not solve the issue, something happened to blow it in the first place (side rant) Over the years of being in hobby communities of all sorts, I hear people say the fuse is there to protect your gear, reality of it is the fuse is there to protect the thing powering the gear that failed. There are situations where a fuse or similar object can be tripped by an external force (lets say a lightning strike) and it can protect the thing its installed into .... but the main function is to disconnect failed equipment from power so it wont catch fire not to sound scary about it, get the fused replaced, if it pops again something else is wrong

not to poop on your taco but it could still have cap issues just from age, depends on how it was stored. But yea the board you are currently trying to use sounds like it has "something" wrong with it.... causing buss hogging issues or maybe something tripping an interrupt constantly / randomly random thought, does it have any tantalum's?

yea ever since radio shack left I have been much more imaginative, for the size of the things could bodge them in a Altoids or similar mint tin... then I replaced my 3d printer (sold my first one years ago) mainly just for stupid project boxes

its a 1 meg ohm pot and a button in each handle (4 wires each side), electrically its nothing fancy. The harder part is actually making something to put them in, but what do I know you might be a 3d printer wizard, a CNC master, woodcarving god or a metal guru, its a box with a knob and a button ... I made a pretty playable and comfortable Apple II gamepad with a radio shack box and a drill (well and some electrical bits and a file) an eon ago

IMO if you can solder a wire its better off running to your favorite online electronics supply house and ordering new pots, I actually yanked one apart real quick to take some measurements, maybe by next weekend I can show a list of compatible model pot's (its not like they are difficult to source, but to find ones that work as drop in's, not including soldering 2 wires, might be something to offer along side the 250 tactile no mod drop in CX40 replacement boards I am working on)

been on a ton of projects while "on vacation" but this one is still a bit on the back burner as far as the new request I have a couple sets of paddles, both are in decent cosmetic condition other than age grime and garage dust, I forget which pair works better but one set has a number of sticky spots the other is smoother but not great, maybe could get them working with some contact cleaner and q-tips, least for a little while, which is why I don't like selling paddles

I doubt this is new, but its what I made tonight

its a good deal folks, I am very tempted