philipj

Wow... So your job was a little more demanding then mine was... Mine limited to drawing buildings and converting old building plans into digital ones, assisting architects,but never fully becoming one. lol I was just fortunate enough to be around CGI artist and teachers at Virginia College being able to talk to them and even work with them and see the various stuff they were doing. Yea, but I tried my hand with that engineering work in AutoCAD; that's some tedious work, but I managed to pass the those in CAD and even used it a little on the job site. Ok.. I get them confused. They're both darn good companies.

I think they did pretty darn good with the "Soulstar" for the Sega CD... Lol...! Enough said.

You're probably right... I went to school for "CAD and Design Visualization" so from my perspective, I see a lot of open doors for potential future Jag project, I just need to get the programming and the animation stuff down. While taking those course, I was also around a lot of CGI artist at that school and get a chance to see a few exciting things there that stuck with me for years so I feel like I have a good scope of things... In fact some of the CAD teachers were also CGI artist so that flavor was always in the air... I wondered if I was taking up the right course over there. lol That's what drive me sometimes. I'll eventually find an avenue for successful Jaguar development within a reasonable compromise based on everything I know.

One of the reasons I've taken interest in wanting to make games was my curiosity about Killer Instinct on the SNES... I never fully understood as a teen why KI for the SNES, although nearly arcade perfect, why the SNES hardware was never able to handle the same level of graphics as the original arcade. Of course I got a better understanding of all of that stuff as I got older, but the thought did stick with me for a long till this day. The Sega CD was able to pull off some level of remarkable CGI using fmv to pull it off with "Bram Stoker's Dracula"; when I played this in my teens, I use to think that it was sad Nintendo never released the, then, newly announced CD drive. The Sega CD pulled off a very decent level of graphics using live action sprites graphics in an FMV environment... I'm not sure, but I think they used "Cinepak" to compress the video. I would love to make something like that for the Jag CD where I believe it's possible to have an KI style game with an FMV background and maybe a limited/modest level of real-time 3D in the background. If Sega CD can do, so can the Jaguar; makes sense to me. That's just one thing on the table that's very much possible the Jag can potentially pull off. https://youtu.be/J8DILAy40Bk?t=191

Well let's just say I have big dreams for the Jaguar and I've been looking into other alternatives past the normal routine the Jaguar was originally designed for... If my opinions reflect that sometimes, I try to stay within the parameters of the topic as much as possible, but I have other ideas on the table that I don't mention here less people really think I out of my rockers. You ask for it you got it... Don't fly false accusation at me and maybe I won't post as much.

Intransigent ha...? Well I consider myself to be a man of principle, but I try to look at things differently. I stick by whatever I think is right and sometimes whatever works for me until I get it right. If that particular trait of my character rubs off wrong, that's still no excuse for others to make unsavory accusations against me when you know it's not true. When I read something here and I don't like what I read, I either try to resolve the issue or ignore the thread all together. Sometimes some of the humor here can be entertaining, but there are limits to how far to take the humor I mean you can't really make anyone not be humorous, but there times when looks like it's been blurred or completely crossed when the humor comes at the expense of other. I've been around the community lone enough to know a few things about how crazy things can get over here; I sometimes get it and sometimes I ignore and keep browsing. But I've seen people ran out of here are at least kept their distance because of a lot of nonsensical sarcasm and comedic post that sometimes didn't absolutely make any sense what-so-ever. You talk about the points I've been scoring here with my unwillingness to change in opinion, but sword cuts both ways with the reputation the has also accumulated here over time. But then again people will be people and sometimes their's no way of stopping that. I'll try and do my best to keep the peace over here and not let any more undue potential arguments occur on my account as best as I can because even in my JS2 days I was always about preserving the community... But on that note, most know that people can and have posted the most investigative stuff just to get some kind of flame war going for whatever reason and sometimes just for no good reason other than to start some stuff; that too plays a role in my posting as well as far as my approach has been. There's a history of it here just like CJ tried to point some kind of history of me. Normally I try and stay focus on the topic as much as possible and keep the thread on course to my understanding and stay positive, but a consistent barrage of trying to make someone come out of character just to get their thread locked or some kind of ban or whatever it is you do, just know that reputation is out there too while you trying to paint an untrue picture of me. A wink and a nod "This thread will be closed soon blah blah blah"??? This is the only forum I know of that does that kind of thing... Think about that... That is all.

So tell me this... What isn't BS??? Because the way you carry yourself around me, if I was to post something that wasn't considered BS, whatever the blazes that is, I think you would still come with some reason heckle me. I honestly don't think you have full definition of BS and you just do this to people you think in your mind is some kind of whatever negative opinion in your head. Give a person the moon and he will say "THAT'S NOT ENOUGH". You seem to be that kind of person, but then I can be wrong about you as you are about me. I think you're fishing for information on me or something; or trying to be funny... You know as well as I do the only time I talked about anyone here was when one of you called me out on it... I admitted it publicly and apologized for it, because the last thing I want to do to start a flame-war over a kids toy we have an enthusiasm about and ruin an entire community over little of nothing. No one here or anywhere else at any other forum has heard me speak bad about anyone since the apology; I was raised better than that and it goes against my core belief system. Now I'll admit maybe ten years I might come here, post something, then go back and gossip a little bit but a lot of people did that back then, which is what caused a lot of confusion, but you wanna know something...? Sometimes you have to look in the mirror and say I'm responsible for what I do in the community and how it affects people as a whole even if it is a video game forum. I just don't see myself as any type of hindering force for blatant accusations against me like that... I mean where have you've seen me do these things you said I did as of recent??? Point out the forum and I'll go there and do the same thing I did here and apologize for whatever confusion you think I'm causing... You can't because I haven't did any of the things you said I did; you either got it in your mind that I'm doing those things or just miss informed. Look... I'm not trying to be the enemy here.

Well let me ask you this question... What have I done to you to deserve hostile language? I've been nothing but friendly to everyone I've met over here, yet I get nothing but the grief coming from you. Was it something I did or said or is the fact that I was JS2 regular...? I mean what's your problem? I've never insulted you, called you out of your name or posted smart remarks after a post is up. It's like your mimicking the avatar your using by stalking me whenever I post something; are you a stalker or you just get your rocks going after people you don't know for no good reason??? What gives?

I appreciate that Skip...! Very encouraging stuff; thanks a bunch. I never thought of it in that way about programming and mod trackers; it makes perfect sense after reading it. Also thanks for the link... Was looking at all of the animation work done on Metal Slug 3 admiring the level of art work put into the making of that game. Very cool stuff.

Only if you have a wall of text will they ignore a thread unless you mention "JS2" and then they come swarming in to pounce just for posting an old throwback story from back in the day... Something that was fond memories for me, but not so much for others; I wonder why...? You're right about doing an engine search; just wanted to see currently where peoples head is on the matter that's all. Dude did you even read what I posted... I know the sarcasm can be at an all time high, but dam man, the refugee comment is a bit much don't you think? I hear both of you... At first I was thinking you could use the Jags 2MB of ram to leverage for some speed for graphics, but I guess that would prove highly challenging at best. There are the Saturn and PS1 CD player speeds to consider, but I can certainly see the obstacles for Neo Geo emulation... Still would be very cool to see.

Typo error... I got no real beef with CJ.

You know it doesn't have to always be a tit for tat argument over here... You guys somehow manage to make it that way. I'll respond to your quote with a previous replies. Besides I got real beef with CJ... The guy bought something to the table, I got to respect that whatever the disagreements.

Whatever you say guy... Just an idea I'm putting out there for fun discussion, but if you would be so kind, can you link you coverage of the matter so that I can read it? Faster than the JRISC processors...? The Jaguar is a 2D monster capable of doing much more than what the Neo Geo could do. Even if emulation wasn't possible, a decent port of a Neo Geo game isn't that far from a possibility provided the ROM size issue is taken care, which will be when the new SD cartridge come into play. Edited: One more thing I like to add on a positive note... I actually like how Neo Geo handles all of that data using the little resources the system has as far as memory goes. They just had a few kilobytes of memory to work with yet they were able to use all of that graphical content and animation very effectively. It wouldn't be the first time me giving some accolades to the SNK console; I just admire how they used their system and made the most out of it.

I hear you... The whole Neo Geo thing was someone else idea, but I embraced it because I think it would be a neat project for someone to make the Jaguar Neo Geo compatible... It's got the core 68000 in there just like the SNK system; the only emulation needed would be the other processors like the sound and the graphics, but the Jag can handle it. It's more of a curiosity thing with me then anything. Probably not... I'm not at a position to do it myself, but it wouldn't hurt to put it out there; I think someone will attempt it at some point in time. Too many agreeable circumstances for it not to happen as far as the hardware is concerned.

Well some have already discussed the topic till infinity reason being the dead horse thing I suppose, but I do have a lot of fun talking about stuff like that from time to time even though I've been down the road before, it's still a lot of fun. I think for some who are programming it's just some subject matters that they've already settled and probably don't want to go down the road again, but I don't mind sometimes. It somewhat serves as a reminder of the whole game enthusiast scene even though I don't play games as much as I use to; I still play them from time to time. So yea I understand what you're saying; I feel you buddy. Just express yourself anytime you feel like doing so.

That's really neat Flux...! Congrats.

I'd like to see Neo Geo games emulated on the Jaguar. Agreed... At this point any game for the Jaguar is a good game just to get some more good stuff going. All bets are off. I think there's a C compiler being made for the Texas Instrument TI-99/4A... If it can be made for that, it can be made for anything.

It would've been cool to see something like that happen just to know what resources they would use to pull off some neat graphical tricks and gameplay... I'm more interested in what can be done on the system now, more than what could've been. That's always been the case when I first got into the scene. "Fight For Life" has a pretty decent animation system; would've been nice to see a "Mario 64" style game or some sorts come to fruition back in the day, but it's never too late to see one now. Perhaps "Crystal Castle 64" in 2018 or some other kind of good 3D platformer...? It's possible to work around the control factor especially with the newly released reproduction 6 button controller that has the left and right flip buttons on them for the Atari Jaguar. Back in the 90s, the N64 controller really bought something new to the table with the 360 control stick that Sony later follow-up with 2 of them on one controller they released and it became an industry standard. But if you look back before those then, you had the SNES controllers and the 3DO controllers with the "left and right flip buttons" on top of. Well the 3DO made good use of those buttons in navigating in 3D environments using the analog controllers; the N64 digital 360 controller stick simply added a broader range to that affect making the gaming experience much more interactive then anyone could've expected back then, but the basic blue print with using analog controllers for 3D control is there and can be used again and refined. Games like "Starfighter, Battlesports, the list goes on with the 3DO system and even some SNES pseudo 3D games that used the mode 7 feature in a fake 3D environment where you use the controller and the flip buttons to navigate within those environment; it's all there and can be used again. Once again I turned a simple reply into a full on paragraph, but I'm highly enthused about what the Jaguar has to offer today more than what it offered in the past. Definitely something I've been down the road more times than I can remember and I just like to see some new stuff.

Actually I was going to mention the 64bit blitter early on, but because of CyranoJ's work on the Raptor, I didn't quite know what kind of technobable he might come up with to dismiss my talking point for whatever reason he's doing it. I think if the GPU had more memory to work without issues with the Jump, or even a separate 30 or 60k of its own memory at-least, through software, it could borderline becoming a graphics accelerator. Even the 3DO had a full 1-MB or GPU space to work with. What was it...? 4 pixel per 8-bit intensity calculation for shading and 2 pixels per 16-bit intensity using the Blitter via the JRISC? Same thing I heard or read... Would've gave the Genesis and the SNES a run for its money if they'd market the system right. I got to start somewhere technobable or not... The Jaguar is a very different animal than the average 3D system so the approach making a good 3D engine will be very different and unconventional then the normal way and the only way figure out the angles is to look back at system before the Jag that rendered 3D in similar fashion, but I'm taking things off topic a little bit, but I feel very strongly about that opinion and have for a long time, which is probably why I bring it up so much. More wall of text.

I made distinctions between the two when I quoted that the hardware was already in the graphic workstation industry... Not made up and not all technobable. I stand by what I posted. It's not hard to have a basic understanding things of that nature without all of the technicalities so no technobable what-so-ever.

That game reminds me of "Guerrilla War" by SNK... This was the neighborhood go-to game when in the mid 80s thanks to a local handy-pack store that had the game. Everybody in the neighborhood knew and played this game to death with some even spending tens and twenty dollar bills in quarters to beat the game. The game-play was very brutal.

It's not really made up... The N64 and PS1 is based on MIPS technology that was already a well established 3D tech being used in multiple industries SGI computer graphic workstations; all Sony and Nintendo had to do was use what was already established as far as what was graphically possible and it cost in the thousands outside of the average consumer... I know it's a little off topic but bare with me... Although Atari had Star Wars, I-Robot, and other vector based games, it wasn't on the level of what the workstations were doing. They almost had a good 3D arcade system with "The Last Starfighter and Air Race" using the early TMS Processor but the machines were too expensive to release, but would later lead up to games like "StunRunner and Hard Drivin" that made good use of gouraud shading when the DSPs became affordable to buy, but still not on the level of a graphics workstation at least not in the way they used it. The 3DO had great 3D graphics probably using hard floats to pull it off, but cost an arm and a leg thus was abandoned... The Jaguar, on the other hand, offered or had the potential to offer an alternative, something more tangible for 3D graphic in gaming that was very unique for its time even though the system, with all of its potential, was a bit of a lemon when they rushed it into market in beta form basically releasing an unfinished system to the masses and not the classes (get it). Not so much the Jaguar versus the SGI, but the way in which it was made internal and released in the market well before a decent 3D card was released in the PC market in 94. Technically for an ST owner, using the ST as a terminal for the Jaguar would've made available extra graphical extensions/capabilities that would've cost the average PC owner a whole lot more than what the Jaguar cost. That's what I mean by unique; of course I don't expect mind readers to know that so there you have it; that's me seeing the glass half full and like I said earlier, I can go on and on about that. Was that enough "wall of text" for you...?

Nice...

What's so nonsensical about my quote...? We all know the history; the Panther wind up becoming the Jaguar, but I guess I did take it a little off topic here bringing the Jaguar up. Next time I'll do better keep things in to context. Glass half empty...

What about Zero 5, Doom, Fallen Angle, Battlesphere, Checkered Flag (Modular style 3D despite choppy framerate), Battlemorph, Tube SE, Skyhammer with texture mapping...? Sometimes it's best to look past the fault and see the glass half full instead of half empty.