Daft_Horse

It looks strange, to see the LCD bezel inside a CRT bezel. Should have cut down the CRT tube to cover it all.

Are you using the early startup options?

GB1000? Phoenix?

A1000 is the ultimate in close but no cigar computing. Good looks for a non Apple, keyboard garage, mouse/joyports in a nice location, great keyboard. But half the chipram is where a sensible person wants to put the second drive bay, floppy kickstart, no gary chip, and the expansion slot is external. All that cripples it, not that I'd say no to having one. I didn't think 500/+ were worth fixing to be honest, ebay is full of them... Sentimental value? Nah I learn the other in it's totality and that's how I know it's wrong. Opinions aren't real anyway. They always tell you in school that opinions can't be right or wrong, well if that's true, it's my opinion that the sky is pink and nobody can tell me it's wrong because it's an opinion. Obviously "opinion" is just a word to hide behind when someone questions something you think, a get out of jail free card for the mind. Bugger that.

My amiga's got all that stuff built in mate. As for the positives of the ST, I know 'em, else I wouldn't have bought one to discover the bad, savvy?

So you've never printed anything ever, and never used anything other than one font. Coolio.

GadgetUK, that's liberalism. "The truth is in the middle" rubbish. No, you learn both sides then put yourself on the correct one. You cannot stay ahead of your enemy without knowing how he thinks. Yeah it does. A key part of GEM is GDOS which isn't in the rom. Unless a computer with one font and no printing capability appeals to you.

What would you know about clear and readable? You're forty nine and still borderline illiterate.

When Amiga Kickstart sees a formatted floppy, it boots, opens the CLI, looks for (diskname):s/startup-sequence and goes from there. If it's not there, no big deal, you've got a command prompt. Just type the name/path of the program and it'll run. You can boot with a completely empty formatted disc. Whereas half the ST's graphics code is hiding under the assumed name GDOS on a floppy disc back at the computer store. Font support, the impossible dream. All you can say for the ST is that it'll eventually, after a few minutes waiting for you to insert a disc, bring you to the default gem desktop. I'll bet booting the workbench on an amiga from floppy is faster, and preserves your settings.

Curious stance.The IBM PC wasn't a business machine? It came out with no software.

The Apple II was kept on the market pretty much only so they could go "We're not abandoning users! Look, we're still making them!" It's obvious from the sky high prices they didn't want anyone actually buying them. Would you pay thousands of dollars for a IIe when you could get a 386 and change? Utter nonsense. Never seen a MIDI port? Amiga Video slot? Atari's killer 4MB, hard disc, and laser printer for $5000 package? Scala? ST/Amiga were business machines by default. All you needed to be a "business machine" was 80 columns and somewhere to plug in a printer.

Yeah, lots of people never load NVDI, they just go make cups of tea while the graphics routines run. I'm kinda embarrassed for you you're trying to defend rom tos. It's utter crap, it's so utter crap it doesn't recognise click and drags half the time, never mind something as wild as "let you select multiple icons in a direction other than right-and-down", or even change font. Let's all fire up our soldering irons to get a decent desktop with 2.x, whoops, still slow graphics. Slow, barely functional UI, large chunk of GEM has to be loaded from disk. These are all huge problems, such a shame you take criticism of a computer as a personal insult. Your mythical 14MB ram upgrade? Great, some third party company created a hack pcb in the distant past. Wonderful. I'll just go get some unicorn bait and we can go fish for it.

It's even worse than that when you take the software side into account. Graphics code is utter junk, must load NVDI. Need fonts? Must load SpeedoGDOS. Want to multitask? Load Geneva, plus new desktop. Total free ram? 2.5MB out of 4MB, no upgrade possible. You can cut down the amount of stuff to load by using "better" ones, but that makes it worse! Equivalent function from NVDI5 + MagiC... 1.8MB free! Throw your hands in the air, in despair, switch on 2+4mb Amiga. Sit there, watching icons slowly load when you open a folder... At least there's 5.8MB free ram but the whole .info thing was obviously too much for a 68000 Both computers are crap and brilliant at the same time. What's amazing is that in all the many, many years they made them, they never fixed these huge problems. Even the falcon has a terrible os.