Comprehensive Plug-and-Play Listing

[Comprehensive Plug-and-Play Listing]

^ Yeah, I figured it was a clone or hack plug-n-play console like many out there. Just didn't know if you were adding them or not. There are several versions of the "Entertainment System" out there. There are many good/great games on it, but there are also a lot of "filler" games and duplicates on it,too.

 

I have taken a liking to plug-n-play TV consoles over the years - they are just so fun and convenient, even if they are NOACs or emulated.

 

Keep up the updates/list!

[Comprehensive Plug-and-Play Listing]

I hardly log on anymore, but do check this site from time to time.

Has the thread been updated with the latest TV plug-n-plays?

 

I recently stumbled across an "Entertainment System" plug-n-play with 620 classic built-in games that I bought on ebay. It was dirt-cheap brand-new for only $20.

Obviously from the name, it looks like a mini NES, complete with 2 NES-like controllers, AV cable and power adapter. It does have the real-deal classic games like Rescue Rangers, Ice Climber, various Mario games, Donkey Kong series, Dig Dug, Contra series, the list goes on. But there were a lot of repeat titles if you go thru all pages, so there are really only (I haven't counted) probably 500 or so actual different games; not 620. Some games like Mappy seem to be messed up. There are Homebrew/hack games on it that I haven't heard of, and there are many games with Japanese or Chinese script in them.

 

Just adding to the list if it needs it!

[Best/worst game with a monkey or ape in it?]

Did Coleco replace the dancing go-go girls with a dancing monkey in the Colecovision version of Tapper?! I have never played that version, so it was total news to me.

Yep, and it's a good version of Tapper.

 

I've always hated those apes in CV Tarzan, and their AI today isn't much better.

Besides the stiff controls, Tarzan is one of the best looking games on CV. Those apes are pricks, but it's hilarious to punch them off the tree or into water!

[Last 3 games you played?]

-Penguin Land

 

-Columns

 

-Opa Opa (Fantasy Zone 2)

 

 

All on Sega POGA plug-n-play.

[What are your favorite "summer systems"?]

Usually, NES. That's what I'm playing now. Was playing the ColecoVision in spring. I tend to play more video games in the spring & summer months.

[Pre-crash systems are slowly being forgotten.]

I'm doing my part in keeping pre-crash systems alive. I usually 'rotate' my classic systems every once in a while; focusing on one at a time playing it. Played ColecoVision for a couple months, now on Atari 7800 (yeah, yeah, ...technically post-crash) playing 7800 & 2600 games.

[Video: I take a trip to the old Coleco Factory]

Great vid! It's neat seeing the old Coleco main headquarters and factory buildings. Kinda sad at the same time, though Just 30+ years ago those buildings were bustling with many people making & assembling ColecoVisions, video games, Cabbage Patch dolls, and other goods. But now I've seen the buildings where my ColecoVision, it's peripherals and games were made. The big 'Coleco' sign atop the building is an eerie reminder of what was once there decades ago...

[Has a video game ever made you cry?]

I don't think any game has made me cry. But many games have made me laugh

[Which console made up most of your childhood?]

The first console I ever played was the Colecovision. My sister had gotten it for Christmas in '82, and that was the year I was born. I used to watch her play it, and eventually picked up a controller for myself. Also, some of the games used to scare the crap out of me! The alien captain in Space Fury and the green tentacle monsters in Venture used to send me running. There was just something about the sound chip in the Colecovision that made some of the sound effects terrifying to me when I was very small.

 

 

Ah yes, the freakin' monsters in ColecoVision Venture. The sound when they came in through the door when you took too long to clear a room.... Very freaky! That used to give me chills.

 

 

Yep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNRC0u5zc70

 

Go to 5:30 for the green hall monster.

[Which console made up most of your childhood?]

NES. It made up most of my childhood. First we had the C-64 in the mid-80s. I would usually watch my older bro play, though, as I was still pretty young. But by 1988 we got an NES and everyone played it; even my mom. Neighborhood kids would come over to our house to play NES because we had so many games. We would buy and rent games all the time from the local video store. We got several consoles in the proceeding years. But the NES gives me the most, best memories and many of the games still hold up well today and are still fun to play

[What's the Worst Console You Ever Played?]

and there are graphics comparisons of the same games existing on NES and other systems like SMS, 7800 - and nearly across the board the graphics are lower resolution, poorly drawn, using a limited color palette, and demonstrably inferior in pretty much every way to their ports on competing consoles.

 

 

LOL, you must be talking about the 7800. The NES has the highest native/out-of-the-box pixel resolution of the 3 mentioned consoles. The NES is known for it's hi-res (for it's time) rounded, "cartoony" graphics and great sound. The 7800 isn't.

 

One of my biggest 'beefs' with the Atari systems is the lower-res, blocky graphics compared to the competition. Compare the Atari 2600 vs. Astrocade......Atari 5200 vs. ColecoVision......Atari 7800 vs. NES & SMS and see. Look closely at the games on those systems and compare the sprites and background graphics -- look to see how 'round' or 'blocky' they look!

 

I'm quoting Darryl1970s' post below so you can read it again:

 

 

I often play my 2600, 5200, ColecoVision, 7800 and NES on my Sony Vega 4:3 TV.

The pixels are smaller on the ColecoVision and NES.

 

The pixel resolution of the standard 7800 and 5200 game is 160 horizontal pixels. (320 mode is mostly useless on both systems)

The standard sprites on the ColecoVision and NES are 256 horizontal pixels.

 

That means 1.6 pixels could be fit inside one Atari pixel.

 

 

 

I'm not whining about anything. I'm pointing out that lower resolution, fewer colors, and smaller playfields does not = better graphics.

 

 

Again, the NES (and ColecoVision and SMS, for that matter) has native higher-res graphics than the 7800.

[What's the Worst Console You Ever Played?]

Can't resist..........just gotta respond to a couple "trolls"

 

 

USAers will always love the NES, as for being revolutionary, it was a step backwards. We had STs, Amigas, playing 16bit games. NES, an 8 bit console? You gotta be kidding.....

 

The primitive 1970s-hardware Atari VCS was sold worldwide until the very early 90s. The 8-bit Sega Master System was still popular in Europe well into the 1990s. It should be noted that the Famicom (NES) was released just one year after the 1982 ColecoVision. And the Sega Mark 3 (Master System) was released a full two years after the Famicom. ColecoVision (1982) -> Nintendo Famicom (Japan, 1983) -> Sega Mark 3 (Japan, 1985). Early NES games were similar to ColecoVision games. Later NES games (SMB 3, Kirby's Adventure, Blaster Master, etc.) were easily on-par with SMS games, and with better sound

 

 

NES. Hands down the most overhyped, disappointing system I ever played. Poor graphicson many ports, terrible flicker, systems died or stopped reading carts regularly, every game was kiddie looking, controllers were uncomfortable with pointed corners and too small.

I do love watching NES fanboys flip their lids when someone disagrees with them though. Just because it was popular doesn't mean it was good. Reality TV and Karaoke game shows are incredibly popular now, and that stuff is for morons.

 

I see you are a fan of the Atari 7800. I really don't think you wanna "talk shit" about the NES when the NES takes a dump on the 7800 in every way. And yes, I grew up with both systems, but there is no comparison. Some developers can do amazing things with the 7800 now. But "back in the day" when it mattered, the 7800 was already an antiquated console = crappy 2600 sound, low-res native graphics for it's time, few games, joystick-controllers that were worse and more UNcomfy than the NES controllers, poor rf picture. You get the idea.

[Lesser Known Consoles - What if You Got One Growing Up]

Everyone seems to like what they grew up with.....

 

First gaming system was a C-64 in the mid-80's. We were the only ones in our little neighborhood that had one. One family across the street had a Tandy computer and a kid up the street had an Atari (2600?) that my older bro played before we got our C-64.

Then in the summer of '88 we moved to another neighborhood and got an NES. Several other kids/families in the neighborhood had NES; one family had a SMS. Then later in 1990 or 1991 we got a TG-16CD, which was amazing for it's time. We were the only ones in our area and school that had one. Also got an Atari 7800 about the same time, as my own present. Even back then I could tell it wasn't on the level of our NES, but it was still fun with it's "old" arcade-style games. About a year or so later we got a SNES, which was our last family console. It was fun playing Mario Paint and Mario World. Soon after I entered high school and lost interest in video games until YEARS later after graduating from college. Been playing video games on-and-off for the last 5 or so years on various "retro" consoles.

 

 

With the Master System d-pad it feels like I need to be extra careful when making movements, lest I accidentally hit the pad diagonally. This is something I never had as a problem with my NES back in the day.

 

 

That's the reason why I pointed out the first Alex Kidd game. A game that came out about a few years after the release of Super Mario Bros in Japan and hadn't really learned the fact what made Mario great was the relatively easy controls to master early that you need to have perfected for later stages. Something that Sega didn't really learn until they had released Alex Kidd a second time that had corrected the button layout issue on the SMS 2.

 

What I am getting at is that the Master System is playable but it isn't fun to play. I don't like it when I feel I have to fight with the controls and now a controller on a standard first party game. I think it's the design issue that really hurt the Master System as a viable product in the United States and Canada as well as in Japan. I think had the Master System Controllers been better designed, it would had a better perception in the realm of consumer confidence. Both when Sega initially released the thing back in 1986 and as well as a better showing than the dismal showing that the Master System II suffered when it was released in 1990 on the eve of the SNES's North American debut.

 

 

Yeah, it's a combo of that and just how the games are programmed. Early SMS games like Alex Kidd may look good and have good layout/gameplay for their time, but they sure don't control well. Alex slips and slides all over the damn place, and the hit detection is terrible. And that is where the NES shines in comparison = tight, smooth controls with good hit detection. Most NES games just play/control very well and are fun to play.

[What is your favorite console generation?]

 

 

Who cares about your old magazines and Facts? Everybody knows the NES is the first Videogame System out there, Everything that came before is the same and are all crap. Welcome to the new world of "Retro Gaming":

 

First platformer is Mario

First Action RPG is Zelda

The only good game Atari ever made was Pac Man

Coleco Vision is just a crappy atari clone with slightly better graphics, but no one cares, because, again, anything to come before the mighty NES is just garbage.

 

If you don't know These Facts you're just too old and can't Keep up with the Evolution of Retro gaming, where People will build up Hype for new Retro consoles on Facebook without ever bothering to try any of the dozens of actual old Videogames out there. Not to mention old magazines are crap. The only relyable Information Come from your favorite youtuber. Those you can trust. No one would be crazy to upload a Video with false information to YouTube.

 

 

Guessing you are being sarcastic? Sure hope so....

 

 

Anyway, my overall fav is 3rd generation....because I grew up with the NES. But I also have a lot of respect for the previous 2nd generation. I really like the Astrocade and ColecoVision. And to me, I see a pretty big leap between the Atari 2600 / O2 and ColecoVision / Atari 5200. The ColecoVision has the same native pixels/graphics resolution as the SMS and NES, but with fewer colors and sprites and poorer scrolling capabilities. But compared to the 2600, or O2, the CV has much higher-res graphics, more colors and sprites, and better sound. Overall, exactly half-way between the 2600 / O2 and NES / SMS. Early NES games like Duck Hunt and Excitebike are very "ColecoVision-esque". And Antarctic Adventure is nearly identical on both CV and NES.

[Most unreliable/problematic video game console you ever owned?]

Atari 5200. Bought it used several years ago. Besides the crappy controllers, the console itself crapped out after one year. I have not bothered getting another 5200 because I prefer the ColecoVision's native higher-res graphics and games library. The CV has also been more reliable (for me) - I've not had the issues other ppl have had with the CV.

 

The NES (and it's clones) can sometimes be 'picky' with it's cart slot. Sometimes you have to make sure the cart is in just right and that it's clean!

[Classic games with smooth controls & animation]

Classic games that have smooth controls & animation:

 

The Super Mario Bros. game series on NES are a given. Many NES games have smooth, refined controls and are well-animated.

 

Jungle Hunt on ColecoVision is another one. Your pith-helmet-wearing character controls as smooth/refined as on a good NES game. Jumping is smooth and well-animated. The falling boulders and crocodiles animate well. Swinging ropes move as smooth as windshield wipers. Looks like everything was done in a high framerate for smoothness. Even the side-scrolling was pretty decent. Very impressive for it's time!

Other versions of Jungle Hunt at the time have choppier, more 'computer-y' looking animation -- like they were done at a much lower framerate. They also don't control as well.

 

 

Post some examples of smooth animated/controlled games and discuss

 

 

[Games that are the "Graphics Pinnacle" for their respective system]

I agree with Kirby's Adventure for NES. Would also add M.C. Kids for NES.

 

ColecoVision: Tarzan, Tapper, and Wing War. They look more like NES games. And Smurf Rescue is still one of the better looking games on ColecoVision

[Best home console port of Galaga?]

The NES version has better graphics than the 7800 version; they are practically identical to the arcade graphics, while it doesn't look like they even tried to duplicate the arcade graphics with the 7800 version. The NES version also has far superior sound, which is also very close to the arcade sound, while the 7800 version is stuck with 1977 Atari 2600 sound. The NES version also more or less preserves the vertical screen orientation of the arcade version, while the 7800 stretches it out to fill a horizontal screen.

 

 

 

While the NES version has better/closer graphics & sound to the arcade than the Atari 7800 version, I still wouldn't call it "practically identical" to the arcade version. The NES version also seems to have somewhat choppy sprite movement, while the 7800 is smoother.

 

I have been critical of the 7800 sound. But 7800 Galaga isn't that bad for TIA sound, and is fun to play. Listen to 7800 Mario Bros. or Donkey Kong for real crude, primitive sound....

[what was your first gaming rig?]

First gaming machine I had as a kid was the Commodore 64. Mom got it for us in 1985 or 86. Consisted of only 6 'educational' cart games, keyboard-computer, a monochrome green-screen and (my older bro reminded me a month or so ago when he visited) an Archer joystick. The games were Kickman, Jupiter Lander, Dance Fantasy, Sea Speller, Up & Add 'Em, and (I think) a BASIC cart.

 

We then moved to another neighborhood in the summer of 1988, and got an NES Action Set later that year.

[What 8-Bit game is most like Metroid?]

Metroid?

 

Other than that, on the NES: Kid Icarus & Rygar come to mind.

 

I have heard that Kid Icarus was developed by the same people who developed Metroid, and even runs on the same game engine as Metroid. Both games have a similar "feel" to them -- the sprites, dark atmospheric backgrounds and music/sounds have lots of similarities between the two games.

 

Blaster Master on the NES has some striking similarities.

 

Blaster Master does have a somewhat similar level layout to Metroid.

[Super Mario Bros?]

P!xel's a girl, dude.

 

 

Sorry about that, P!xel!

 

Also are you using a retro CRT TV? If using an HDTV to play analog games, lag may be a factor.

 

Good luck...

 

Analog games? Huh? NES is digital (8-bit) as are pretty much all post-PONG programmable consoles. Maybe you are talking about the analog RF signal to the TV?

[Top 10 favorite NES games of all time.]

So many good games on the NES, it's hard to just pick 10.

 

But right now my top 10, in no particular order:

 

- SMB 2

- SMB 3

- Kid Icarus

- Blaster Master

- Yoshi's Cookie

- DuckTales

- Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers

- Donkey Kong Classics

- Tetris

- Mickey Mousecapade

[Super Mario Bros?]

It's just a game, man. Don't sweat it. I personally have more trouble with the stupid rotating fireballs in the castles than the flying fish when I'm small Mario. Sometimes I'm like "Fuck it" and just use the warps to get past the levels that are giving me shit. And if it is really getting me upset, I just pop in another game

[The launch of the TurboGrafx-16 [YouTube]]

Got the TG-16CD around Christmas 1990, I think. We were the only ones who had a TG-16CD at our school. My older brother loved to play Aero Blasters, Final Lap Twin, and the Bonk games. I, too, thought "WTF" when I played Keith Courage. Weird game.

It was an expensive system; especially with the CD-Rom attachment and Turbo Tap. A couple CD-Rom games we had were Sherlock Holmes and Addams Family. At the time (early 90s), those games were really amazing.

Still have it, but the CD-Rom attachment has long since crapped out. I have another TG-16CD that works, but rarely use it. Great system; I just have more fun playing NES games.

[Last 3 games you played?]

- Milon's Secret Castle

- Donkey Kong Classics

- Mickey Mousecapade

 

 

all NES