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I see both sides. If you think of hockey, you play it and it always has a random factor, you will never ever play the same game twice. And it's true that memorising something isn't playing, unless you are weird. Though at the same time - I feel the competition factor is what makes deterministic games 'playable', if you will. You are playing against yourself or other people to see who can do it better. Competing at something fun is playing.

updated; SNES Death and Return of Superman Batman Returns Justice League: Task Force Ninja Warriors

I hadn't played this game for a few years, so cleaned it off and gave it a go this weekend. It quickly came flooding back to me how truly great this game is. Play control is spot on and each of the characters play very differently. Music is great, lots of moves (and very different per character), beautiful visuals all around, good challenge (I never have finished it). Hell, even dying in Ninja Warriors is totally awesome, the way the ninjas' outfit and skin blows off, then they slowly fall to their knees and explode. I think that even a marginal fan of beat em ups has to love this game. I honestly can't complain about anything here. I can't even think of anything I'd wish was improved - other than the fact that the game can't go on forever. If I wasn't at work, I'd be playing this now. I want to finally beat it, with each character if I can. Play this game!

Thanks for the link. Not sure about this list though they have Marvel Superheroes War of the Gems as the same rarity as Super Mario World. Unless Marvel Superheroes sold millions of copies, I can't see how this is true. Is there a definitive list somewhere based only on how many copies exist, not how available they are or how much they cost?

If this is feasible it would be a cool implementation. I can't see myself using it as there are not many GB games that I want and don't have. I have to wonder though, who is going to pay for 20 year old games that aren't even in colour? People like us might, but not Joe Average I'd think

I did a search here and found out there used to be one on gamerzuniverse.net, but I think that site is dead. Does anyone have a decent guide that is not the 2006 Jason Fleck list? The Fleck version is pretty useless far as I am concerned both in rarity ratings and price values. Did you know that Street Figther Alpha 2 is worth as much as SF2 Turbo? ,and that Chester Cheetah 2 is just as common as Super Mario World? What I want is a list that is based ideally on production run counts and/or overall sales - not some guy looking at eBay auctions for 2 years and basing rarity off how many times a game is listed and how much it sells for. Cheers in advance guys

Who cares? Just don't buy it.

It's about retaining the perceived value of the item. Video games that cost less than $5 are obviously only cheap because they suck. You know, that kind of thinking. Also, if you just bought PS2 Jak & Daxter for $3, how likely would you be to ever purchase PS3 Jak & Daxter for $70?

I had an NES in the 80s, but just barely. I beleive I got it for my 11th or 12th birthday which would have been 1988 or 1989. I got just the standard Control Deck, with no games so my dad took me to Consumer's Distributing (remember them?) and I picked out Kid Icarus. The really cool thing was that year my whole family teamed up to support the new NES for my birthday - so I also got Mike Tyson's Punch Out, Zelda 2 and Pro Wrestling that year. Talk about a sweet line up to start your NES off with

Here's my newest list. Batman Returns I am going to go back to tonight and see if I can finish it on the hardest difficulty. Justice League perhaps also. It's a better fighter than most people give it credit for. SNES Death and Return of Superman Batman Returns Justice League: Task Force

Agreed. Gradius Rebirth may not have done it perfectly, but I whole heartedly commend this 'retro' effort. Capcom did it wonderfully with MegaMan 9, and the more companies that make new retro games, the less jaded toward modern gaming as a whole I will be. We all know that 16 bit was the golden age of gaming and it's been downhill since.

Woah, I totally did not see this TV collecting thing coming, as I was mostly joking. I should know better than to underestimate the collecting bug by now. Personally I am not willing to take the 'authentic experience' issue to this level. In cicumstances where the original hardware sucks, I am willing to upgrade. TVs are a good example of this I guess, as is the original Gameboy. The display on the original GB is blurry and shitty, so I only ever play GB games on a Super Gameboy or an GBASP, neither of which is technically the 'original hardware', but they are each superior to the original GB in basically every way and are each authentic.

Technically shouldn't we really be maintaining 25 year old televisions if we really want to play these games as they originally were meant to be? The console is really only half the hardware as far as I am concerned, but none of us has any issue playing an old system on a TV that is in every way superior to those the system originally was designed for. So, I wonder why console hardware is really so different. Just musing and playing devil's advocate here of course.

The only classic systems I really collect for any more are SNES and original GameBoy and as a rule of thumb, I'll always prefer the actual cartridge to any other means. However, in cases where it's too difficult to get the game (like Ogre Battle or Japanese imports), I'm willing to go the VC route. There are other things to consider too, like battery life. I was thinking about starting up a new city in SimCity for SNES, but I am worried the battery could fail since it's getting old now and downloading the VC version seems like a good fix.

Just beat Death and Return of Superman for SNES. I started playing it because I'm reading the novel right now.

Cena definitely kicks it old school. I think I remember him mentioning Blades of Steel or Baseball Simulator 1.000 in an interview a few years ago. I can't watch that video in Canada Have you seen this Cena shirt design? http://www.didntyouhear.com/wp-content/upl...02/johncena.jpg

Thanks for the link! I will buy this right away if it comes out over here. We did get New Adventure Island on VC, so I'd hope this'll be available too Things I noticed; - it looks like the boss from the first AI is in the game (!) You know, that rhino-head dude? - item management looks cool, like a more advanced version of what we got in AI2 and 3, minus the dinos and with some other features thrown in, like unlokcable items - what is the deal with that spastic hump-jump power he has? - modifying Higgins' outfit sort of reminds me of Super Adventure Island 2 - skate boarding mini-game!! - I'd rather have sprites over the 3D model look, but I do realise this is 2009 - I wish I could read the tex/understand Japanese

I love Adventure Island too The video in the link you posted is dead tho

I beat the game yesterday and enjoyed it. I know the part you are talking about though, and throughout the game there are a couple more similar or more difficult parts. But, it is a platformer after all. Also, didn't this start as a PSP game? Some of the graphics seem left over, but others aren't and I think they've spruced it up sufficiently for a budget Wii title. All in all I'd give it a and recommend it to any platforming fans, especially at the price I paid.

In all honesty, you could play nothing but these games for the rest of your life and never experience everything there is in all of them. You've just got collector sickness - I suffer from it also. The issue is that modern games are just too big, there are too many of them, we like games and have some extra money. I have only one current system and more than half of my library hasn't been played.

I think that was the story of the original Mario Bros - that they were plumbers in the NY sewer system. I don't think I've heard mention of that though since the Super Mario Bros Super Show. Mind you, I haven't heard anything that outright contradicts it either. Also, I think Peach was changed to the original Japanese name over time, just like Dr Eggman

SMB3 ended up as a pack-in too guys. I am not sure why it should matter how or why it was purchased or what marketing tactic was employed to sell it. No difference in my view. Game is made available for purchase, money changes hands, ownership changes hands, it's a sold product - end of story.

Is this the same game I have for PS2?

You know what bums me out? Animals don't give you pictures any longer. In WW that was a big part of the game for me - that if you built a relationship with an animal in your town and they really liked you, they'd give you their picture, like an exclusive item you could only get from them. With that element gone, what is the point of even acknowledging your townies now? So I can fetch things for them or give them new sayings over and over again? That got old weeks ago.

I'm at level 4 or 5 now and I am digging. Just a simple action platformer, which I enjoy. Reminds me of Ratchet and Clank in a way, but with a spooky Burton-esque theme. The good thing about buying $10 games is that I expect basically nothing and if it turns out to be pretty fun, I'm rather impressed.