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  2. Posted

    On 4/24/2020 at 11:09 PM, JasperAK said:

    correctional institution Behavioral Health Unit. FIFY

    Thank you for the correction!  I like that much better.

     

    On 4/24/2020 at 6:02 PM, vongruetz said:

    I've asked this before.  I'm not sure what the "hard" questions are that people aren't asking. I mean, I could think of uncomfortable questions to ask, but not really hard.  The people who complain that the hard questions aren't being asked are just the people who don't get Amico or don't want one.

    The "hard questions" thing is a mystery to me, too.  I think there's a perception that, for an interview to be "good," the interviewer must at some point shout down the interviewee and jump down their throat and harangue them over something, or else it's just a softball interview or an "infomercial."  But there has to be a reason for them to do that, and I can't imagine what that reason would be when it comes to the Amico.  What "hard questions" are there at this point that haven't already been addressed, usually multiple times, both here and elsewhere?  Should these interviewers behave like hard-hitting attack dogs all the time just because they're "supposed" to?  That seems so phony to me.

     

    My impression is that the people who shout the loudest about being "allowed" to "express their opinions" or "ask the hard questions"—like some of the troublemakers we've had here—are often the ones who have the least to say when they're finally given the opportunity to "put up or shut up."  I think they just enjoy being disagreeable because they somehow equate that with being "independent," but again, it's all a phony affectation.  They're ultimately not interested in hearing the answers to their "hard questions," because if those questions were to be answered satisfactorily, they might not have a motivation to be so disagreeable anymore ... until they find some other "hard questions" to latch onto.

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    12 minutes ago, m-crew said:

    I agree with Jaybird, just needed to get my frustration out with those few one last time.  Sorry Jaybird , my last rant with that... 

    Understood.  I'll say this much about them, particularly the ones who have had to be blocked from participating in these threads: by carrying on in the petulant and childish way that they are, all they're doing is confirming why it was necessary to block them in the first place.  The fact that some of them have also had to be kicked out of other venues, and for similar reasons, would also seem to confirm that they are the ones with the problem, not any of us.

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  5. Posted

    26 minutes ago, GrudgeQ said:

    Was going to post something but decided too much hater talk lately, so this is the edit.

    I tend to agree.  We've had lots of discussion of the "critics" here today, and I think we all understand their motivations pretty well, but I'd prefer not to see us dwell on them and what they're doing and more than we have to.  The more we talk about them, and the more we call them out by name—particularly the people who have been blocked from these threads and can't respond directly—the more we play into their hands, escalate the issue, and stoke the fires further.  As I've said before, I think the best way to answer them is to remain focused on the positive.

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  9. Posted

    1 hour ago, malrak said:

    Have we seen any excitement, love, or hate yet from the casual or non-gaming demo?

    I won't speak for Tommy, but my impression is that IE hasn't begun its major marketing push into that demographic yet.  The scheduled release is still six months away, and it wouldn't be wise for them to start a marketing campaign too early; if they did, the interest they generate might dissipate before the product is even available.  It's easy for communities like ours to forget that, as passionate and as connected to the history of Intellivision as many of us are, our numbers are too small to make a venture like the Amico successful all by ourselves.  We can help to promote it, but in the end, we're a vanishingly small sliver of the target audience.  Most of that audience isn't yet aware of the Amico, but I'm sure that will begin to change over the summer.

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  10. Posted

    3 hours ago, LePionnier said:

    They will try to find all the negative exceptions.

    A controller that does not work among the 100,000 sold !

    They are going to look for a person who has dropped his controller and smashed the television screen like seen with the Wii !

    (If they can't find any video, they will buy a controller to do it themselves ! lol) Etc.

     

    I think they will be worse than today. They are currently recruiting their soldiers. Unfortunately, they want to start a war.

    But I think in about a year, most of the storm will be over.

    I think we've already seen them changing their tactics.  I'm sure we can all remember that, when the Amico was first announced, the comparisons to the Coleco Chameleon started almost immediately.  According to these wizards of smart, the Amico was "just another Chameleon" and therefore "had to be a scam," and they worked so hard to squeeze the Amico into that mold that they began to see every positive statement as a "paid endorsement," every enthusiast as a "shill," and communities like ours as "cults of Kool-Aid drinkers."  As the old saying goes, if all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.  The problem, of course, is that the Chameleon was nothing at all like the Amico; it was never supported by a realistic business case, and it never even existed other than lies and an empty Atari Jaguar shell.

     

    Now that we've seen much more of the Amico, its games, and the people behind it, the Chameleon comparisons increasingly look as ridiculous as they always were.  I think that's why we're now seeing them drag out the poor Ouya so often: they may grudgingly admit that the Amico is real, but they'll insist that it is "doomed to failure" (for reasons they can never seem to convincingly articulate) and is therefore "just another Ouya."  Of course, they're just as wrong about that as they've been about everything else, but they're too busy trolling discussion boards and comment sections to stop and realize how bad their track record has been.  If they did, it might occur to them that maybe they should just sit down and shut up and let the marketplace decide what succeeds or fails, which is how it's supposed to work.

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  11. Posted

    1 hour ago, GrudgeQ said:

    I can tell you they aren't doing very well recruiting because it is basically 6 to 10 people with some shadow accounts and has been for a long time. Meanwhile just on the Reddit Amico forum (Reddit is not really a great match for the Amico's fanbase) we are getting one or two subs *a day*. So in other words we get more people interested in the Amico each week then they have in total.

    That's my impression as well: a dozen people or less are responsible for most of the anti-Amico negativity on YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, here on AtariAge, and who knows where else.  But on the positive side, we've seen many more enthusiastic new users signing up here as well, and they keep threads like this one busy at all hours of the day!

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  12. Posted

    29 minutes ago, Blarneo said:

    I have a very serious and delicate question I hope I can cope with in life, and avoid pain and despair.

     

    It too forever to get past Moonsweeper level. How long will I have to stay a Dragonstomper? I'm already bored with it.

    This information used to be a lot easier to find, but I believe that these are still the current rankings:

     

    0-9 posts: Combat Commando (0 joysticks)

    10-49 Posts: Space Invader (1 joystick)

    50-99 Posts: Star Raider (2 joysticks)

    100-249 Posts: Chopper Commander (3 joysticks)

    250-499 Posts: Moonsweeper (4 joysticks)

    500-999 Posts: Dragonstomper (5 joysticks)

    1000-1999 Posts: Stargunner (6 joysticks)

    2000-4999 Posts: River Patroller (7 joysticks)

    5000+ Posts: Quadrunner (8 joysticks)

     

    (Of course, anyone who wants to can now skip all of this by becoming a subscriber.)

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  13. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Tommy Tallarico said:

    So the person calling me a liar is so misinformed that the points he is saying I lied about... are actually lies themselves.


    Talk about zero self-awareness.

     

    :)

     

    Trying to stay out of it, but had to respond to that one.

    I seriously wonder what these people will do with their lives in about six months, when the Amico is shipping and people are having fun with it.  Their entire world won't make sense anymore.

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  14. Posted

    5 minutes ago, bigdaddygamestudio said:

    For those of you not in the NY area and didnt have cable yet, WPIX in the 80s during the afterschool cartoon hours WPIX would have people call in and play Intellivision games for 30 seconds by yelling PIX into the phone trying to win prizes. They started the promotion with Atari Games but went to Intellivision games soon therafter since Intellivision had much better graphics.

     

    Anywho another nice teenage memory brought back.

    I grew up in the NY/NJ market, so I definitely remember the "TV Powww" games.  They mention the Intellivision, but that particular video seems to have a mix of Intellivision and Channel F games; the Bowling, Baseball, and Shooting Gallery games are definitely Channel F.  At least some of the Intellivision "TV Powww" games were featured in Sharp Shot, as I recall.

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  15. Posted

    2 hours ago, Starpaddler said:

    Thank you for the LordRayken Rant™.  Its nice to know others share the same level of frustration, but we need to remember that is their goal.  Best to just procedurally boot them and move on. 

    I agree.  I think the best response to their particular brand of crazy is to bury it with positivity and productive achievement.  At some point, it becomes counterproductive to continue to respond to people who can no longer participate in the thread, because it only allows them to influence the discussion even after they're gone.

     

    (And for anyone new who is seeing these responses out of context and might get the wrong impression, let me clarify: critical points of view are welcome here and always have been, as long as they can be expressed politely and dispassionately, no matter how much you might have heard otherwise.  You'll find many examples throughout this thread.)

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  16. Posted

    2 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said:

    yes, much like the sdx project is now, it was a work in progress... but I'm talking about 4.23 , crap... I did type 4.22 at the top and end with 4.23 at the bottom. changes occurred in between.  F*ck it can be read as if I am referring just to 4.22 and not the revision going on towards 4.23. I need to edit/clarify that. :(

    Fixed!

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  17. Posted

    19 minutes ago, m-crew said:

    The obsession to post negative undertones and discredit what Tommy and IE are doing and have accomplished so far just keep coming.

    Probably not for much longer.  We tried to roll out the red carpet for them with the "independent" thread, and they blew their chance.  We don't need them here any longer if they're only going to persist in bringing more of the same negativity.

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  18. Posted

    43 minutes ago, roots.genoa said:

    Well, I would. First of all, this Q&A thread grows several pages every day while the taco thread has become really calm (no news is good news™) - it doesn't look that hard to 'maintain' these days.

    Secondly, if people don't enjoy it, they can just ignore it instead of asking to lock or destroy it (What for? Just to get revenge on the members that were banned from here?). I personally find it highly entertaining, thanks to the VCS backers who never cease to amaze me.

    First of all, I'll simply say that there's more that goes into maintaining the forums than most users realize.  Second, I am not the one who is out to "get revenge" on anybody; you're confusing me with certain other people who still can't get past their petty grudges.  Now, let's not allow this thread to be sidelined any further.

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  19. Posted

    3 minutes ago, atarifan88 said:

    Exactly!  I got tired of seeing the same old garbage, post after post.  I think the more surprising thing is that thread was never shut down, despite the fact that it's completely worthless considering it's original intent.

    I would not disagree with you.  If nothing else, it's become too big and unwieldy to maintain, so at some point we'll need to decide what to do with it.

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  20. Posted

    3 hours ago, NTV said:

    I've seen the Taco Tread mentioned multiple times. What is this Taco Thread? Does it still exist?

    This is what they're referring to; it's a (very) long-running thread about the company currently masquerading as Atari and their "Atari VCS" crowdfunding project, which has been a slow-motion train wreck for years; posting pictures of tacos became a bit of a running joke over there.  However, I'd recommend that you skip it: there are occasionally bits of news, but in my opinion that thread has mostly become a giant pile of garbage.

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  22. Posted

    11 hours ago, roots.genoa said:

    That kind of behaviour doesn't turn me or other AA members into Amico haters because there's no logical reason for that, but it sure doesn't help being 'positive'. :(

    - Was it positivity when IntelliMission accused CurlyQ (and someone else before) of being Flojomojo's second account?

    - Was it positivity when MrBeefy's girlfriend was accused of being imaginary?

    - Was it positivtiy when m-crew claimed that there was some kind of mysterious 'leader' (of what?) here?

    - Was it positivity when 1001lives answered to me by claiming again that every AA member banned from this thread regularly posts mean comments on Pat & Ian videos without any proof?

    And I have never seen any apologies.

    I'm sorry if this is blunt, but seriously ... these are the kinds of playground-level insults that these schoolgirls have been in such a righteous snit about for months???  If I were on the receiving end of that kind of treatment—which I have been, and worse—there's probably an 80% chance that I would simply shrug it off as harmless hot air from a blowhard who isn't worth my attention.  If it were something that really steamed me, I would simply contact the person directly and say "You know, I'm a little upset about something you said, I'd like to talk about it."  That's the kind of conflict avoidance and resolution that Real Live Grownups™ practice all the time.

     

    What have these children chosen to do instead?  They've continued to sullenly slink around in these threads at all hours of the day and night, carefully cataloging every (real or imagined) gripe and insult, nursing grudges over them for months on end, as they persist in posting their little passive-aggressive quips and barbs at every opportunity.  The pettiness and malice of these people knows no earthly bounds.  As I've said before, the Internet must be an unbearable hellstew of horrors for anyone who's triggered into such a bad case of Global Thermonuclear Butthurt over something so insignificant and trifling—especially at times such as these, when we should all have much more important things to worry about.

     

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    I know at least one (their name starts with an F and rhymes with 'taco') and told them several times I disapproved (they were banned for suggesting you to become an AA subscriber by the way 🤔).

    I know exactly who you're referring to, and that is a blatantly dishonest representation of what happened.  Why on earth would any of us ban anyone merely for suggesting that someone should become an AtariAge subscriber?  Subscriptions help to keep the lights on around here, literally and figuratively; we love our subscribers, and we always welcome more.  That "explanation" is so illogical on its face that anyone genuinely interested in finding out what really happened—and who isn't just out to collect negative talking points—should immediately question it.

     

    (For anyone who is interested, this particular member was given second chances, and let back into this and other Amico-related threads, multiple times.  They "suggested" that Tommy should become a subscriber as a veiled insult and an insinuation that Tommy was just a freeloader who was out to get free advertising here, something that would be clear if you saw the exchange in context.  The exchange escalated from there, and spread into other areas of the forums, until the member had to be blocked again.  The "suggestion," such that it was, was only part of a much bigger picture, and not even the part which precipitated the action.)

     

    As I've said a million times before, the few people who have had to be blocked from these threads—and there have been less than a dozen out of the ~260 members who have posted here—were blocked because of their repeated bad behavior.  That's it.  Not because of their point of view, not for refusing to drink someone's Kool-Aid, not for "daring to ask too many questions," and certainly not merely for "suggesting that someone should become a subscriber," no matter how noisily they might continue to insist otherwise.  If anyone is genuinely interested in any specific cases, feel free to contact me directly and I can give you the exact reasons why they were blocked—every case was documented in detail, and no decision was made without the consensus of the moderating team.

     

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    I'm just saying a lot more of them were attacked for no good reason. They probably posted bacon pictures and funny stuff because they were afraid everything they posted would be scrutinized as a proof of some secret evil agenda against Amico. Well, they probably shouldn't have since they were still suspected anyway.

    Well, I'm sorry if any innocent individuals were caught up in anyone's sweeping generalizations, but taken as a whole, the collective behavior of the people we're talking about has been atrociously awful and immature from the beginning.  Theirs is not the behavior of genuinely well-meaning people who have legitimate grievances.  Even in cases where those grievances may have started out as legitimate, they chose to handle it so unbelievably poorly that as far as I'm concerned, they've ruined whatever credibility they had and thereby forfeited the courtesy of being given the benefit of the doubt.  If anyone wants to avoid being lumped in with the jerks, they should simply refrain from behaving like a jerk, and they'll probably be fine.

     

    2 hours ago, GrudgeQ said:

    Really you can't let them get to you, they are trying to drive away people and discussion by creating a toxic atmosphere. Don't let these little back biting parasites win.

    That's my attitude as well.  I won't claim that anyone who would create this much drama and negativity about a video game console like the Amico must be clinically insane, but at the very least, it's clear that their priorities in life are way out of whack.  I don't think we should allow them or their deranged obsessions to sideline the conversation here any further.

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  25. Posted

    5 minutes ago, bigdaddygamestudio said:

    Out of respect to this forum and tommy, you are just not worth it.  have a nice night

     

    3 minutes ago, Relicgamer said:

    Well out of respect Ill trust Tommy and his crew thats actually been in the business not the once was video game salesman.  

    ... and with that, I think this bickering between you two has gone on long enough.  Take the rest to PMs, please.

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