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Shaggy the Atarian

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  1. I was in Orlando for most of last week at IAAPA 2021, where I got to spend a bit of time with the latest titles coming to the market courtesy of the arcade industry. Contrary to various media reports, the death of the arcade has been greatly...well, lied about, as there are still many arcades out there who need new games. I posted one detailed report here if anyone is interested, which includes pics of the new Ice Cold Beer reproduction cabinet that is launching next year. I've got a lot more to talk about from the show, but I'm focusing on editing together videos that I shot there and will then post about it on the blog. For some vids that you may or may not be interested in: Anyone a fan of Cotton? Arcades getting an exclusive version of the new game: Interesting new idea for arcade basketball. Took a page from the Connect 4 Hoops game that is out there, but throws zombies into it Yes, there is a Mission: Impossible Arcade game You can't have an arcade tradeshow without a new racing game:
  2. Yeah, I really love that one, only issue is that it's all in Chinese. For a US arcade location, no amount of awesomeness can overcome that, so it's always been a dud 😕 Still great to play as just a gamer though
  3. I wanted to grab this for my arcade when opening back in the day, but instead I went with Oriental Legend 2. Probably should've gone with this (although it wouldn't have been played much, even though it's awesome)
  4. "What's your Pong high score?" Re: Nolan's "endorsement" - we went over this in one of the locked threads. Each clip had him saying a throwaway line or two and were under 30 seconds. The first time he saw their piece of plastic in 2017 or 18, he just said it looks cool. In the one pictured on the other page, he just played Tempest and talked about how cool that was (even though he'd been fired from Atari a few years before Tempest was even created). He never actually gave it a ringing, detailed endorsement saying "I would buy one for these reasons," which he has done to various other pieces of tech including the Switch. So should we call the Switch the real Atari because Nolan endorsed that? lol
  5. That 'someone' was Atari SA. IIRC, there were lawsuits filed, but can't recall what became of all that. If there's anything that this iteration of Atari truly shares with the past ones, it's enjoyment in filing lawsuits. They also have a long track record of screwing over their "partners" when it comes to things like payments, although dunno if the same trend has continued with their present CEO. Still, that's a very difficult bridge to put back together after you've burned so many people. So while it doesn't directly affect you or your Atari collection, it does end up creating less value for the VCS in general, as the pool of developers/talent willing to work with them on creating content isn't as large is it could be otherwise. I might have overlooked it in your posts, but why do you want to buy one? Just as an emulation box? As for your question about what would make it a "real" Atari system, the original pitch made it sound like it was going to be a great place for all of the homebrewers here on AA to go and create things. That had some merit on paper, but it soon became obvious that no one really knew what they were doing with the VCS. That and they completely misread the room on why people still make games for old systems. If they had some kind of unique "Atari 2600 Game Maker" for the VCS, then maybe it would hold some value in that regard, but really it still makes more sense, from my perspective, to get one of the various SD cart solutions for your old Atari hardware or buy carts direct from places like AA, than it does to buy an Obscure Indie Game Showcase machine with an Atari logo on it.
  6. It's received an article here and there in the mainstream, but there's little indication that it's sold much more than the initial backer amounts. We don't know for sure how many of the 11,000~ backer orders were just for the joysticks though, so guesstimates put sales somewhere around 10k, probably lower. In the gaming business world, that's pretty much DOA, as it shows developers that there's no reason to waste their time on creating anything interesting or unique for it. As for "some value," that depends on what you're looking for in a gaming device. For the model I saw at Best Buy at about $400, not sure what games or features it has that would justify spending that money on it instead of a Switch or an Xbox Series S, both of which are cheaper. If you want a really expensive way to play 5 or 6 7800 games on your new TV though, I suppose there's that. Or you just get the Atari-branded Raspberry Pi for $100 that has HDMI out and let the emulator do the rest.
  7. ^ Lol, I know there's a few dozen of you. Sorry that pointing out this product's flaws is so triggering to you.
  8. Probably will achieve more than you do with you using military service to try and shut down debate, or stupid claims that people care about web browsers on consoles.
  9. I saw my first VCS in the wild this week, in the Nintendo Switch Lite locked case at Best Buy. If I didn't know what it was, I'd have overlooked it completely, as they didn't even have the box facing outwards and the price tag thing was on top of it tucked in the back. Probably embarrassed to be placing a $400 device next to something that actually has a reason to buy it, and for half the cost. You'd think Atari would at least try to get them to maybe put it near the retro game console stuff or maybe the PCs, but apparently no one really knows what to do with it. At least it'll probably be hitting fire sale in about 8 weeks. Sorry, hadn't visited the forum all week. Guess I'm slacking on my daily 2 minutes of VCS hate, but I'll make up for it here. It wasn't happening in a vacuum. You guys fed it, we fed it, responses were made, typical forum stuff. I remember you trying to pass that off as some great interest in the VCS, although as we can all see no one outside of a small subset of VCS backers cares. There's zero talk about the VCS outside of here and the other tiny pockets that have always been talking about it. Sorry to hear that - I remember hearing some gamers say the same things about the PS4 and XB1 when they came out too. One friend of mine, a former editor of Gamefan Magazine (ECM), talked about how both his PS4 and XB1 were great dust collectors. Just because they were for him, didn't mean that they were for everyone else. I personally don't have much interest in the PS5 as I've never really been into their exclusives - God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted, Spider-man...meh. I don't care. Millions of other people do though, so Sony execs won't lose any sleep over my single lack of support. Sure, the VCS design is cool. But when I buy a game device, that's a secondary or tertiary consideration. I don't find the Amico's design appealing and I have zero nostalgia for the name, but I enjoyed playing Moon Patrol and Astrosmash. I'm curious to see how Breakout plays on it. If it has enough fun games that I enjoy, then I'd grab one. But if all the games were available on other platforms(particularly ones that I already own), then no, I wouldn't be interested. That's why, as I've stated more times than I can count, that the VCS is a pointless product. It's a shame, I wish that Atari had made something worthy of the name, but they didn't. If I wasted the money on one, even at $100, it'd be nothing more than a dust collector, just like that stupid Atari Pong Jr. unit I got. At least that was free though.
  10. There was a memo released to the net a few years back (by Curt Vendel, I think?) that showed that Bill was attempting to court Konami in regards to the Jaguar, although that was probably just a hail mary or "what have we got to lose" kind of thing. I don't know when this trip of his was, but it seems logical that they would have tried to make connections there and also with SNK, since there were some connections between Atari and SNK USA. That they also had the Toki license would also indicate some connection with Seibu Kaihatsu, although it's just as likely that they could've got that via Fabtek, without really needing to court anyone over at SK.
  11. Taking a page from @awbacon here, sort of. Here's a capture of an obscurish arcade title; It's new from 2020, but it's only found on commercial Big Buck Hunter Reloaded games. Typical Raw Thrills light-gun fare, but it is a little bit more skill-based than a lot of their stuff:
  12. Hadn't seen this, so repsonding separately. On the JagCD, I'd always read Atari produced 20,000 units, never saw sales numbers. Not aware of the VCS selling above 10k As for "you can actually buy a VCS"...well, the PS5 hasn't already sold 11 million+ units because no one can buy one 🤐 Yes, some of the most rabid defenders were calling it a PS5 killer, which is just as dumb an argument as saying you should buy something because of a logo. Granted, there are fanboys for every system who will blindly buy any new Sony/MS/Nintendo console because of that, although usually they can at least expect some certain exclusives to come with that system at some point, while Atari can't/won't do that. Pretty much every console for the past 10+ years has allowed you to add external storage so it's kind of a moot point and the PS5 has an internal storage bay that can be swapped out for something bigger in case the 1TB of existing storage isn't big enough. The only thing the VCS has over it is upgrading the RAM, but that doesn't magically enhance the CPU or GPU base computing & rendering capabilities.
  13. I've played an Amico, and they've shipped some game products, so it's light-years ahead of the Chameleon. Whether or not it ends up being like the VCS remains to be seen, although they certainly are comparable when it comes to shipping delays at this point. I find it funny though that some who crow about how the doubts about the VCS shipping were unfounded are now saying that it's unlikely that the Amico will ship, as though those numerous high-profile delays the VCS had never happened.
  14. And to make this VCS related to a post above, the VCS reaching 50k sales is a very generous prediction. I'd be amazed if it even matches the Jaguar's sales numbers, which were dismal. That might not be the case if all these Recharged games were only available on the system though. As for goal posts, goal posts have been moved frequently on both sides, but like X=user said, that was really Atari's fault. Most were reacting based upon the info on hand at the moment, and when Atari showed off nothing but a case and couldn't answer even basic questions about the device; forced out their console designers; made major delays, etc, it was a safe bet for many to say "this thing will never come out." Sure, it's almost a miracle that it did, but then seeing a few defenders here and there start to claim things like it being a PS5 killer, or we should buy it for the sakes of Nolan Bushnell and a logo was a bit more absurd than guessing that it wouldn't see the light of day.
  15. Is there any of that available solely on the VCS, or can I get all of the games on other platforms that I already own? Until that changes significantly, which it looks like it won't, I'm with Bill.
  16. For those who are unfamiliar with the workings of the modern arcade industry, there's a huge arcade & amusement tradeshow that takes place every November by the name of IAAPA. This is like the E3 of the arcade industry, and when major theme parks announce new rides, or arcade game makers new games, they almost always debut their products at this event. The one exception to this was last year, for obvious reasons, but this year's IAAPA is happening, and it's going to give us a look at what arcades can expect to see in 2022. For Sega's part, they are pulling out all the stops to make a comeback in a big way. They've been relatively quiet since last year, only releasing Mission: Impossible Arcade and continuing to sell games that were produced pre-pandemic. For this IAAPA, they are showcasing several new games, which will include a new Men In Black mounted gun shooter and possibly Jumanji (these two are focused on ticket/redemption though, sadly). For proper video games though, they have new versions of their Mission: Impossible and ATV Slam games, and will finally jump into VR with a game called VR Agent. I'll have more news on this event next month as I will be there for most of the week to play and film everything I can.
  17. I'd have to guess that both the PS5 and Switch hide them because it's really not that big a deal (not that it ever really was, except for maybe on the Dreamcast where it was novel at the time) and you likely have access to the web from a plethora of other devices in your home these days. Although when you can't run certain apps natively on the platform, then at least it has some other use.
  18. Interesting, hadn't played this one before. I can see where games like Oriental Legends 2 got their influence from though
  19. Sounds like you've got your work cut out in convincing millions of people to shift from the Xbox to the VCS then. If only that sweet backlit logo was doing the trick!
  20. What would make a sequel video to this perfect is having Weird Al do the interviewing
  21. Agreed...I always play MM this time of year (and Dracula on the Lynx) One interesting tidbit that I learned about MM recently is that it was released October 11th, 1990. So happy birthday to MM! On a different note - does anyone know who owns the rights to this game? Seems Radioactive Software only got this one out of the gate, so I've always been curious who owns the IP...
  22. Of course it'll be a moot "major selling feature" for the VCS once the Steam Deck launches, but now the Xbox Series X lets you play PC and Steam games on it too. Also, I recall a certain someone who had claimed over and over again that only the VCS has a web browser as though that was some yuge selling feature 💩 Well, so does your Xbox:
  23. Yeah, and given that as a kid I got to know the Metroid series through Metroid II (we only had a Game Boy, not an NES), that's where it also felt kind of weird when I eventually playered other Metroid games. Although I guess with the Prime series you do encounter them more often.
  24. If any of those improve some of the shinespark stuff, then I'll be happy. Some of those are a real doozy and pushing the Y+B in mid-air as some YouTubers say you should do, doesn't work for me. But I am really enjoying this game. One of my favorite Metroid titles...just wish that they wouldn't have written themselves into such a corner as to practically remove Metroids from the story. Seems like you should keep those in there a little more, given the game's namesake
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