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Hello Ballblaɀer this is one of the documents that I use when crossing data in my research, including the same date version, I believe that there is a later one, I think that April 1984, Curt Vendel quotes at some point in his posts. Excellent point of view, I totally agree with you on this aspect. The exact point is that we cannot consider the information as definitive, many times a certain version or game was not released just for commercial reasons. Initially I do not intend to list revisions of versions, copyrights of cartridges or boxes. I believe that showing the community the research project and collecting the existing versions will provide a basis for the construction of the sets in the future. Thank you very much for your contribution, if you have any of the records on the list to validate, please send.

Excellent approach on the third party industries, the explanation of the strategies of each one was also very cool. I like to think how they did to gain space in sales. Offering new games like Activision or featuring classics like Atari, being based on famous films or characters like 20th Century Fox, Parker Brothers or M Network. Anyway the race was open! Congratulations.

About the box records, their versions and variations: =================================== To better exemplify the crossing of records and information I will use the box versions of the black label series from the game Asteroids. Black label series: https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label Box version G-C017039 v.1 (white background warranty box, © outside warranty box) https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label/box-g-c017039-v-1 It was identified in this version of the game Asteroids so far only the variation of the Glued Flap box opening, in the tab contains Rev.1 and so far I have not identified any cartridge with a date stamp on END LABEL. GLUED FLAP: BERTCO GRAPHICS 05/81 and G-C017039-49 REV.1 without DS (Date Stamp) in END LABEL. Box version G-C017039 v.2 (white background warranty box, © inside warranty box) https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-black-label/box-g-c017039-v-2 This box version of the Asteroids black label series, was found in three opening variations: Standard Flap, Glued Flap and Tap Flap. STANDARD FLAP: ADAPK SAN FRANCISCO 9/81, 10/81 G-C017039-49 REV.2 without DS at END LABEL GLUED FLAP: ADAPK SAN FRANCISCO 07/81 and G-C017039-49 REV.2 and small number (1), without DS (Date Stamp) in END LABEL. GLUED FLAP: BERTCO GRAPHICS 07 and 09/81 and G-C017039-49 REV.2 and small number (6), on the cartridge I identified labels with DS (*Date Stamp) and without DS (Date Stamp) in END LABEL. TAP FLAP: NO REGISTRATION INFORMATION (I need information about this variation). All versions contain white manual and black label. However, there were different manufacturing cycles. I have dated a range of 03 years of label printing only in the box version G-C017039 v.2. * DATE STAMP REGISTERED (May 1981 -> October 1984): 1981 -> 22 1 - 32 1 - 33 1 - 35 1 R - 36 1 R - 43 1 1982 -> 01 2 - 1 2 - 02 2 - 05 2 - 11 2 R (BOLD) - 12 2 R - 22 2 - 22 2 R (BOLD) - 49 2 R (BOLD) 1984 -> 13 4 - 13 4 R - 18 4 - 19 4 (BOLD) - 20 4 - 23 4 (BOLD) - 24 4 (BOLD) - 25 4 R - 41 4

It seems to me that the information posted by Ranthurf reinforces, where each printing company has its form of registration and traceability. This topic really helps a lot in building dates!

Random Terrain, you made an excellent contribution, this is one of the posts that inspires me to work on my research line. About the tab information: I believe that while one tab presents information about the printing industry as a company and date of manufacture of the box, on the other tab we find information regarding the gaming industry such as serial number, corresponding game number and rev. version. In parallel with the capture of records, I will update the information and evidence found through this post. I reiterate the invitation to everyone who can send images of the tabs of the missing games containing the game registration and Rev., it will help, thank you. Daniel

It would be an excellent name to contribute, @Random Terrain is a reference and a profound researcher. I would like to hear his opinion!

Kirkland, thanks for the contribution. On the project website (Atari Openbox) there is a link showing about dates and printers in boxes, labels and manuals: https://www.atariopenbox.com/about-help @Philflound posted a video with great information about the evolution of the Atari 2600 boxes that I recommend everyone to watch: https://youtu.be/HuywSZVbDmQ

I would like the Hangman and Hunt & Score scans. My basketball too is Bertco Graphics It's a good line of reasoning from you. For the quality control of the industry it would be good, it helps to identify the lot that belonged to the box.

Thank you so much Phil, your work at Videogamevariations is amazing! On this subject cited (lower number. "2", "3" and "6"), I believe that it will be one of the doubts that the research may reveal from the massive inclusion of records. We have some findings in your sample such as: The box may have been printed at a certain time and the numbering at another (note that the numbers identified on the same tab are not aligned and are not even the same typography. So we can have up to 3 different printing periods on the same material. I believe that the boxes also had editions (as well as books and other printed products) and this is characterized at various times in the history of the game series, either by the date of printing or the type of opening of the box. About Basket I have a "2 BERTCO (08 78)" and you showed two records "3 and 6 BERTCO (08 78)". I aligned the tabs in an image and none has the number in the same print location and not the same inclination. I think it characterizes the different moments of impression. PS: I already validated the Slot Racer in the Game Program version, now there are 12 validated out of 20. Hugs; Daniel

Thank you jeremiahjt, it is a really big project. Yes they are separate, to see all versions of text label boxes go to: https://www.atariopenbox.com/atari-2600-colection/cart-text-label Regards; Daniel

I have long wondered how Atari built the series of games and their versions. To this end, I started researching the subject. My name is Daniel Medina and in this topic I would like to present my research project for the reconstruction of the Atari game series. RECONSTITUTION OF ATARI 2600 GAME COLLECTIONS. ==================================== I developed a website with the purpose of supporting the project and the research, so that everyone can follow the updates of the information found. On the website you will find all the explanation about the project, the method used, where to find the cataloged information and you will also be able to identify which games formed the series and their versions. I use as a study base in the research information from any and all catalog numbers available in the game sets, I also use data from Atari documents, Internet pages and sealed or complete games for catalog records. After a year of work, I defined as the initial indexing point for building a database, a number found in the boxes that I call PSN (PART SERIAL NUMBER), are found in the small tabs, usually along with the review. Through them I identify the series it belongs to and the game it contains. I have already identified 495 versions of boxes and validated 185 of them, my intention is to open the community to validate other versions and discover new ones. The idea is also that everyone can participate, sending version inclusions through channels like this forum or others that can be built in the future. Now I would like to know your opinion. Welcome to www.atariopenbox.com

Phil, we have made great strides in the variations of boxes and cartridges. I just finished modeling the new project, now let's resume the checklists and move on to the missing items. Remembering that I have received many contributions, I would like to thank all collaborators and one especially to you! Daniel

Do you still have PCBs for sale?

Dave your collection is wonderful! The way you organized your shelves makes a lot of sense to me and the impressive number of rarities puts you at the top of the world's collectors! You my Sunday much sweeter! Thanks for sharing.

Phil, you're right about the investment, so being able to certify the games is even better. But I always ask myself: Why and for whom? For those who inherit or buy at substantial value to keep them closed in their homes? Let me present this to you from another angle, about arriving at a moment in life and having the opportunity after 40 years to live this emotion of opening sealed games. I will do this for my pleasure, for having this right. I don't want to encourage others to do the same. But I want to have this memory in my life, please don't take this emotion away from me! So I can answer the initial question. Why and for whom? For those who inherit or buy my games will know that they made me very happy and even helped to preserve Atari's history. Hugs dear friend!

Phil thanks again. I just completed another 20 boxed print records for the requested period. I found two more different brands of printing that I will be sending you soon. My intention this year is to open all my sealed games (approximately 120) so we will have many more records to include.

And about the boxes to compose the set: I think that the box version 14) © 1986, dark red box, in the warranty box, Printed in Taiwan, would be more suitable for the "mixed" versions (cartridge and manual Inc) and for the "pure" Corp version (cartridge, manual Corp) would be the version 15 box) © 1986, dark red box, no warranty box, Made in Taiwan, Printed in Taiwan.

What do we need to know about an Combat Atari Corp cartridge? ========================================== By bringing together the versions found in 2012 and the two versions found now in 2020, through a graphical comparative analysis between the models of labels and cartridge formats CART 1 and CART 3, in its two variations (with or without text in the main label: "Use with Joystick Controllers"). Evidence points to the following common characteristics: • Plastic coated label • Game title off center in the end label • Plane inside boarder on the main label • Image undocked in print on the main label The results will facilitate identification as to the period and country of manufacture. ========================= Right now I see that collecting is just a detail of a great discovery! But if this is not real? Actually if it's a dream? Please don't wake me up! ========================= * Images taken for the construction of the VIDEOGAMEVARIATION website infographic | Giant Label Variation NOTE: For the construction of a CIB set between CORP versions, a good way is to use the print and copyright registration of the warranty certificate that accompanied the version. Evidence suggests that we may have Manual and Cartridge Inc with a ©1984 warranty record ATARI CORP Rev A; How can we have Manual Inc and Cartridge Corp CART1 with Warranty registration ©1984 ATARI CORP Rev B. Arriving the pure editions of ©1986 with Manual CORP B / W ©1986, CART 3 CORP, warranty record of ©1986 printed from May 1986. And so on... COMPARATIVE STUDY

Dear Phil excellent rescue. As an initial strategy, Atari used the existing stock to make capital. Even reusing boxes, cartridges and printed material. Lately, as we are evidencing here on the giantlist (videogamevariation.com), the discovery of many NTSC games in boxes in International formats (5 and 6 languages), both in the Inc. era and in the Corp era. The research initially points out that there was an advance in NTSC investment for the international market in the Corp. period, thus creating new frontiers for the search for game versions by large collectors. With the certainty that much remains to be discovered, I thank you for your trust! Hugs

I believe that all Childrens versions of Atari Corp "86" edition (copyright 1986) are international NTSC versions (box 6 languages). And like every 1986 edition, boxes are hard to find!

Excellent Phil, I will analyze all your considerations to cross with my items here! I also understand that they are trucks of items to be included due to the versions and their editions (years of copyright). One suggestion would be to put a link on the Giantlist home page. Let's work and build! Hugs

Thanks Phill, great idea to create a page with items to include. Well, I literally have a truckload of manuals and variants of cartridges and labels found. I am crossing them with the respective editions (copyrights) and versions. I think even this page will help me a lot to organize everything!

Wow, looking at my collection I come across the game Pigs in Space in the Atari Corp © 1986 version in 6 languages made in Taiwan, tab flap style box, CA019744-114 REV. A . Manual © 1986, black, C019787-114 on back, 18 pages (folds out), printed in Taiwan. I am sending the images to include in the list.

I'm still adding and sorting information in the related folders and that's been almost a year. I have to create a domain and hosting for the project. I used Combat to exemplify (image), because it has many versions and variations. The "no warranty box" box made in Taiwan (10 Box Color in the image), I initially classified as a version. With the contribution and feedback, it will help to evolve the version structure (folders). I still have inclusions from Parker Brothers to send, nice move to your new home.

Hello Phill, first I'm sorry for the off-topic post. I found the questions excellent, this image (Combat Game) is the complete structure of versions for all game boxes launched by Atari, whether from the Silver, Red, Color, Children collection, etc ... The empty folders denounce that for the time being I do not register boxes launched for the versions of a certain game. PS: A few days ago I found a version of Warlords released by Atari Corp. and it became easier to update the information in my database. On the issue of Combat Gatefold, I classify it like this: "Gatefold version contains 2 variations of boxes and 3 variations of labels. When entering the version folder, there are other folders with variations of boxes, manuals and labels. This is the modeling of the database for use in the future. I think it will help answer many questions that I have by crossing this data. I hope I have clarified your initial doubts, Hugs!