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  1. You lucky bastard! I didn't even know there WAS a Coleco-branded 3.5" drive for the ADAM. EDIT: Ha! Should have read rest of thread before posting my ragingly jealous congratulatory reply.
  2. Gee, you are going to drive me to the irrational want zone. It would be fun to be able to play with Euro computers.
  3. I do not have such a monitor (unless the 1084S does it and I don't know about it), but it's good to know it's easy if I ever give in. Thank you!
  4. I think now that I am here almost two years later in 2021, I would add the following items: 1. The Ketek Command Center for the Commodore 128. Just an external housing/desk organizer/power strip deal that was meant to make your Commodore 8 bit look more like a then-modern PC box set up. Silly now but GOD I WANTED IT in 1992-1993. Saw one for sale once with a huge bunch of crap, asked the dude to separate, but he declined. Would have had to buy a couple of truck loads of crap to get it... my wife would have murdered me, wasn't worth it. Today I am not even sure I would use it. If anyone has one in the back of a closet somewhere, do let me know. 2. A ZX Spectrum. The original small black one with the rainbow on the diagonal in the right hand corner. I would never, ever bother doing what would need to be done in order to make the thing usable in the USA --- so this is truly irrational, because it would be purely decorative. On the other hand, this means I could take someone's non-working unit, which means some day when I've had a few and I am surfing the net, I may yet buy a cheap one and import it. 3. A Commodore 8280 - the dual 8" disk drives. I am fascinated by those. Indeed, I bought an 8" disk, just to have. Of course, in order to have the drive be worth anything, I'd need a computer to go with it, so... 4. Something in that CBM-II/PET-II Commodore line that was actually designed in house but was always rumored to be designed by Porsche. Don't really want or care about the computer as a computer particularly, but man those machines as little art pieces are dead sexxxy with that monitor and everything yeahhhhhh In terms of my old wants combined with these, I think I would order them now: 1. C65 (obviously) 2. Commodore 720 (CBM-II) / Commodore 8280, even though they do not match styles. 3. Commodore Amiga 4000 not T 4. Ketek Command Center 5. Coleco ADAM Disk Drive 6. ZX Spectrum 7. TI-99/4A VCR controller deal 8. Atari 1450XL 9. Atari 1200 I'd maybe throw on the TI voice module thing, but that is very obtainable, so if I ever really want it I'll buy it, so I don't know if it counts. Just can't see dropping half a hundy on something I'll play with once or twice then forget about. Anyway my strongest irrational wants right now are a portable wind-up gramophone and a reel-to-reel tape player. I also have my 1983 Chrysler LeBaron Town & Country Mark Cross Edition Convertible to spend money on, so I should probably calm down (that car supposedly talks using that same logic that TI used, but right now that whole system doesn't work, so one of my irrational wants is to look into getting that done).
  5. I got my Commodore printer VERY late in the day, for I think my 16th birthday (in 1994 - after Commodore liquidated it!). To me the essential difference between a computer and a gaming machine is output - if you can't use it to do something of value for the "outside" world, it is not really a productivity machine, but a gaming machine.
  6. I really enjoyed reading this thread and everyone's stories. I am more of a Commodore guy, I must admit, but I, like most of you posting here I guess, always thought of my Commodore 64C as a kid as more of a "productivity" machine - that is, a real computer - than a "games machine." When I got into the retro hobby seriously and added the Atari 800XL, I asked a guy I was trading with to include some real productivity software. I am always more interested in what these computers could do for real work than just for games. My "daily driver" among retro systems is the Commodore I always wanted without quite realizing it as a kid: a 128 with two drives, the RAM expansion, a printer, a "modem" (WiFi Card), mouse, etc. I will amuse myself from time to time by writing tests for my students on it (I teach an English literature course at a local University). Haven't done it in a while though - the pandemic made everything online for the last three semesters.
  7. You're a ColecoVision expert AND a White Sox fan? You really are a bit of all right, NIAD!
  8. I really would love to learn so much of this stuff, they don't know how lucky they are having someone right in the house who can do it all.
  9. That's funny! I don't know if it is exactly true either, and I tend to think that oldheads like myself (I'm going to be 43 in a month so I guess I am just now qualifying as an oldhead haha) can tend to get a little overheated in the dumping on the younger generations, but the disposability of everything doe bother me. I was the sort of kid who always paid attention to grades and did very well in K-12, but what I have principally learned, I feel, as I have gotten older, is that knowing things is nice, but knowing how to do things is much better. My father had no handiness to him at all, he was mostly intellectual, I suppose, by inclination (but he drifted into being not especially good at that even as he got hooked more and more on junk television in his old age), and so he could never teach me how to do anything, and between that and the fact that, when I was in high school, going to "tech school" instead of staying in regular high school and getting yourself on track for college was treated like something for kids who couldn't add two and two and were lucky to muster the brain power necessary to breathe, I never really learned to do anything. One thing about the old computer hobby I like is that it has forced me to at least learn some basic stuff. With my son I am actually considering getting him lessons from an early age in things like carpentry or electrical work or anything practical he can do with his hands so he doesn't feel helpless, like I often do. I hate that about myself but at my age half the time I just feel like, "if I try this and wreck it or half finish it and then make it worse it will just be worse." It's a sucky feeling. And the thing is, because of the rising cost of college, I think adult attitudes towards things like trade schools have improved considerably since when I was in school, and thus it is also less stigmatized among kids. Hopefully I am right about that.
  10. Sorry for thread hijack, and I never lived in Kentucky, but for some reason Cincinnati/then from there into Kentucky is like Number 1 on my list of places to do a road trip to if I can ever convince the wife to go with me. I have for some reason always really wanted to see Cincinnati and from there kind of tour Kentucky.
  11. I know it wasn't an option but as I have no emotional attachment to any of the machines and got one simply to tinker around with, I recommend, if you can get one, the 800XL. To my eyes it is the most beautiful of all vintage computers (and I say this as a Commodore guy at heart), the keyboard is to die for, and it has the advantages of the XE (smaller footprint, more RAM, built in BASIC) with the build quality of the 800.
  12. My turn for an admission: I don't know. carlsson, though, seems to have provided some good information that perhaps Protecto did produce some stuff itself; I was unaware of anything Protecto was involved in that actually originated with them. Even if Protecto did sell some items under its own brand, that does not, of course, mean that they were the actual manufacturer - perhaps they simply acquired hardware and worked out a license to brand it themselves, or bought out things from companies that were totally defunct and so they could brand the items however they wanted without repercussion (unlike, for example, when they liquidated Commodore B-series computers in the mid 80s). Here is a full Protecto Enterprizes catalogue from 1985 that features a printer interface to convert Commodore printers to Centronic interface that the catalogue indicates is manufactured by Cardco, so they did do some level of business with Cardco. I don't own a VIC-20 or a VCS (I have the Coleco ADAM actually, with the VCS Expansion module), but I am fascinated by this mystery now. Protecto has always been a bit mysterious to me; this makes it only more so.
  13. That’s what I mean. 4cade’s video talks about Cardco, then mentioned Protecto advertised a similar product sometime later. 4cade follows others in calling it vaporware, since no extant examples are known. What I am saying is that the very fact that Protecto advertised a VIC 20 adapter that would play 2600 cartridges as something they had for sale suggests to me that some of these units by Cardco were actually produced and DID exist, even if they never got past a small test production run, since Protecto would not have developed and manufactured the product itself, and was a known reseller of dead stock of even small or late-prototype stages, like the C65.
  14. On your actual YT page I commented that this story really fascinates me. I can’t imagine that Protecto actually ever intended to produce these things themselves... which makes me think they really did buy (or thought they bought) a stock of these from some supplier who wished to liquidate them, which makes me in turn think it is more likely than not that some number of units, however small, wound up actually existing. After all I think Protecto was one of the outfits involved in liquidating the C65 after Commodore’s collapse, and there were only 200 or so of those, and they didn’t get them all (I know I have read the Software Hut in suburban Philadelphia, much closer to Commodore’s HQ than Protecto was out in Illinois, got a few of the C65s), so there is a precedent for Protecto acquiring a small lot of some piece of hardware they then sold off.
  15. Awesome video my friend. I left you a comment on the page itself which I could repeat here if necessary. Suffice it to say I love these deep dives into the real story type things as a genre, and now combined with one of my favorite topics, old hardware. Bravo!
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