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If someone can't fully enjoy owning a 2600 because they feel it's overly sexualized or overly violent then you need to introduce them to GTA:San Andreas for an hour and then stick a CX40 in their hand with that "destructive" game Asteroids and tell them to be greateful. Most all of the greatest games for the 2600 involve one sprite colliding into another with a little bit of collision detection coded in to the mix. If they can't handle that then they certainly cant handle interacting with the real world and should seek some help further than "whats a good 2600 game?" Believe me, I TOTALLY understand the desire to find some nice clean games that don't involve KOs, bloodsport, simulated sex, etc. so that the whole family may enjoy the gaming experience.... but if they cant handle a game like Asteroids, Galaga, or that demonic Ms. Pac-Man then there are other issues that need to be dealt with here.

Simply put, the 7800 ProSystem is the pinnacle of the 1980's Atari home gaming system. Arcade style graphics + the soul of the 2600, all bundled together in a sleek and handsome little package = best Atari system ever. I always enjoyed the 7800 primarily for its early 80's arcade ports. While they werent always identical, they were always damn good. No other system in my opinion did a better job of bringing the 80's arcade experience home to you. (No, not even that weak little NES.) Dig Dug, Pole Position II, Joust, Galaga, Ms. Pac Man, Xevious, Centipede, Asteroids, Robotron 2084, Donkey Kong, and best of all, Food Fight! Not to mention upcoming arcade releases such as Burger TIme (Beef Drop) and Q*Bert, which both look like some of the best arcade ports period. You will also find that the 7800 does a decent job of releasing some long-time C64 and third-party favorites that in my opinion were often more enjoyable than the originals. Games like Ace of Aces, Ballblazer, Choplifter!, Commando, Crossbow, Ikari Warriors, Karateka, Touchdown Football, and Summer and Winter Games. Impossible Mission is the best example, bug aside. The way the secret agent man performs gymnastic moves across the screen is a work of art, and his long slender stature is something the NES would have a hard time replicating that smoothly. Wacky in-house Atari titles such as Midnight Mutants, Basketbrawl, Desert Falcon, Scrapyard Dog, and Ninja Golf make for the most interesting selling-point of this system. Seriously, a Ninja saving the world before the 18th hole? What's more, you can enjoy almost every title ever released for the 2600 as well as most all of the 2600's line of peripherals and accessories, so you are not losing anything if you are already a long-time 2600 gamer. End of discussion.

Yep, that was me! I caught on right away that the seller was shooting himself in the foot with his listing, that kiosk is in perfect shape and in my opinion is clearly worth more than what I paid for it. I've been buying up a few coin-ops on ebay lately and now that I've secured a reliable shipper who can ship door-to-door, I knew that this kiosk auction could be a great win. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8207849961 I'll take some more pics next week when it arrives.

Wow that's a good deal! I just purchased one for $177.50 in perfect shape. Great score!

Nice work Curt. Now get to work on FB3 so we arent dissapointed.

i wish you could make a cart like that that's capable of playing Lynx games on the Jag.

har har.

*sigh* .... all this talk makes me want to play Night Trap for old time's sake.

You know what would have been even cooler??? If they had released classic Atari games that never made it to the 2600, like TEMPEST!

Any new news Eduardo?

Lunar Lander was a property from Atari Coin-Op that never made it home. Obviously Curt's team at the new "Atari" took it upon themselves to program a few new titles for the FB2, Lunar Lander being one of them. So where did it come from? Atari. That's my take anyway.

Air Zonk on the TurboChip does not have a CD Case for sure. Sucks that they had to cut corners like that. How much could a jewel case really cost?

I have a TON of that stuff. I have a few that say "Copyright 1977 Atari Inc." ... I have them scanned I just need to resize them. Justin

yep. pm sent.

CONGRATS! The 7800 definately is THE premiere Atari system to own~! Ofcourse that's my opinion and I may be extreemly biased but still it's a work of art. The power of an early arcade machine, the gorgeous looks of a sleek low-slung 5200 and the soul of the 2600 make this thing an Atari player's wet dream. Just find a joystick you feel comforatable playing and you'll be all set! Welcome to the 7800 family! : )

lol you can always print up a "lab loaner" cartridge label and affix it over pac-man combat or et if you just want a conversation piece

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I'd say Wil gave a fair review this time. The Midnight Magic review was just pure gutter trash though. I have no idea what he was talking about last time Midnight Magic is one of my all time favorite games on the 2600 and the graphics were superb. Beam me up Scotty!

*cough* yeah so uh back to the Jag.....

Uhhh maybe you missed the point of this thread. The entire purpose is to illustrate the absurdity of these Jaguar arguments, they are so pointless! Lol its just that so many of them are just so humorous that its fun to share stories of rediculous things people say. I think your disgust would be better directed at those that wont stop posting about "how many bits does the Jag have" in this forum. Lol this is just to share funny stories. Good times! He used to say dumb stuff about the car all the time, by this time it was like 1996 or 1997 and the Jag wasn't so much a hot topic in the game magazines any longer so he switched his bashing to the car. He always had some dumb thing to say. Yes there were three Gold ones produced at the factory. None of them were painted gold, they were actually made of gold. The first two were produced for a 1981 American Express catalogue offering. The third was produced in 1983 and was the last car off the line. Any painted ones you see were all aftermarket.

Hey Curt thanks for loading all the new stuff! Regan and I spent the past two hours on the phone clicking around looking at all this stuff.... it's really cool to see all this surface after a quarter century. Justin

Lol I forgot one other great one.... In 1994 this kid tried to tell me "Well 3DO is better than Jaguar because 3DO is 3D thats why its called 3DO cause Jaguar is only 2D." Even funnier was actually a friend of mine who was enthusiastic about Jaguar when it was new. He was a nice kid, but he wasnt the brightest. Once we were sitting in class in 6th grade talking and he goes "yeah that Jaguar is a hot system... I think it looks a lot better than Three Doo." ..........so I sit there for a minute thinking to myself "Three Doo"?? I was piecing it together and right as I was about to ask him what he meant he goes "That Three Doo Road Rash game looks good though" and I realized he meant 3DO but didnt know any better. Fun times!

Well Carl Forhan and the guys at Songbird Productions have been supporting the Jag for some time with some GREAT software titles. There's also a lot of continuing development on the Atari Falcon over in Europe... not quite the Jag but sorta.

With all this talk of the Jaguar and its "bits" or supposed lack thereof, I can't help but think of all the times I've been through this conversation with the hordes of uninformed people who felt the need to talk down our beloved system, and how every once in a while the conversation would just turn damn funny. I think I've heard some of the most ridiculous arguments in my life spawn from Jaguar discussions. The purpose of this thread is NOT to debate the Jaguar, it is to share FUNNY past experiences with talking to people about the Jag. Please do not ruin this thread with comparisons, etc. Okay... *phew* ...that being said, on with the show... I was the first kid in my state to have the Jag and back in sixth grade I was quite the Jag evangelist. I could never understand why these people felt the need to bash the Jag. Maybe they felt outdone by the cutting edge new offering from Atari... Maybe people are just scared of things they don’t understand or scared of things that don’t mesh with what’s mainstream at the time. (it was always the same kid on the bus that would tout the praises of "Woops there it is" or KrisKross that would talk down the Jag... go figure) While everyone else was still piddling around with SNES/GEN in 1993 I had a Jag in addition to those systems... and it seemed to me that about 25% of the people who came into contact with me and my Jag would immediately turn defensive as if the mere existence of the Jag all of a sudden made their pile of $79.95 Gen carts irrelevant. Thing is, every once in a while I'd get engaged in a conversation with someone totally ill-informed about the Jag who would make the most ridiculous argument against the Jaguar or site something totally off the wall as a source for their argument. Being in sixth grade in a small town in South Carolina at the time certainly did not help. One guy told me that the Jaguar was "the devil's video game" because that’s what his pastor said. Something to do with mind control I think, who knows. Another kid later on told me that the Jaguar was "only 56-bit" because he "did the math just like the ad says, and if the Jag only has two 32-bit chips then that makes it 56-bit, not 64." (needless to say my school's math program was terrible.) I remember early on before the Jag even came out one of my friends at the time was already talking it down because “Genesis has an Aerosmith game (Revolution-X) coming out and all Jaguar is going to have is a game about that Perfect Strangers show.” A Jag game about Balki Bartokomous and Cousin Larry running around Mypos? LOL sure, sounds like the latest release from The Savage Team! That same kid on the bus who seemed to think the world of "Tag Team" and KrissKross tried to tell me once that "the Jag-wire is dangerous! It was recalled because the controllers would short out and explode in your hand and 3 kids in Arizona had already died from playing it. You need to go give it to the police!" Oh my god. I just started cracking up. This kid was obsessed with explosions anyway. I remember a few years later when I was old enough to drive I had saved up and bought a DeLorean which was my childhood dream car... of course this same kid decided to bash that too (after all it was another unique toy much like the Atari Jaguar) and used the same explosion story again .... "I was at a red light and I seen this DeLorean sitting there and the engine just exploded for no reason other than it was a piece of crap. The whole front end of the car fell off and collapsed when the engine exploded" ....funny thing is, the engine is in the BACK of that car, not in the front! Needless to say he was busted as being a bigmouth liar and he just sat there quietly for the rest of the class. Anyway back to the Jag... I’ve heard so many BS arguments thrown around, and all I can ever do is sit back and laugh and have a good time. After reading through the last two threads where someone felt the need to puke all over the Jag I thought it would be great to hear other AtariAgers share their stories from around the world. Lol anyone have any good ones? (please no argumentative posts)

Somehow I ended up with a few too many 3DO M2 dev systems. I only need three and I have five. If anyone is interested in a pristine 3DO M2 and can give it a good home where it will be loved and appreciated, PM me with an offer. (stock photo) Justin