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Not sure why this is in the marketplace area. The collector in question has been clear that he doesn't collect variants unless the variant release has unique content on the disc. Sony generally did not assign unique numbers to games that simply came bundled with a promo item like the skateboard for Target on Tony Hawk, etc... He does, however, collect collector's editions as those were generally the original release of the game. It cost him tens of thousands of dollars and he has thousands of games. So, yes, he has at least one copy of every game ever released in the US for the PS2 sealed.
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Considering the fact that I've already sold over 500 pieces of software (in 2+ months) I must disagree with you. Just because you want something for nothing isn't my problem. Plenty of others are quite happy and consider themselves fortunate to be able to find such a vast collection at one location and all my items are NEW, not used pieces of junk.
Also one might consider paying only one shipping cost, not a dozen or more. Good luck ebay hunting, I'm sure you'll find everything that I'm offering............eventually.
Best of luck back at you,
Gary
Nice reply. I'm sure you have undersold some, and asked too much on others. Not sure why you feel you have to be rude or insinuate that I want something for nothing. I'm not going to pay MORE than I can get the exact item on eBay. That was my point. I have no idea the hat you pull your prices out of. I've got ePay and Atari2600.com price guide to go on. When someone shoots me a price that is higher than I can observe on those two, I'm not being a tightwad for passing, simply being fiscally prudent.
I take back the genuine well wishes. If anyone wants to deal with your poor attitude here on Atari Age, they certainly can. However, you just showed your true colors, and I'd be willing to bet you lost a few sales doing that.
AX
Yeah, I'm skeptical of his claims that he has sold 500 pieces of this inventory in the past two months, especially with no inventory or price list. All of us who collect know that ST, 800 and 2600/5200/7800 stuff is relatively common in sealed mint shape on Ebay or from various Atari dealers. I don't see anything particularly rare or valuable in any of these pictures, in fact the vast majority of the titles are super common and frankly, I know several UK based dealers that have many of the same ST titles in mint sealed shape for $7-$10 a title even with international shipping. Heck, B&C right here in the US still has a huge ST and 800 selection including many of these games for $10-$20 and they are actually properly stored and nice and their shipping is reasonable.
While he can certainly charge what he sees fit, this isn't 1989 anymore and the ST never has had the same collector community that other Atari products have had. Finally, while I will admit to being a picky collector, I just don't think many of those pictured are in mint condition. A lot of those games look dinged and dented, sunfaded to various degrees and there is clearly mold growing on some of the console title boxes. If it's on the outside, it is likely inside a number of others if these items have been stored together for all these years. While I can't say for sure that he is being dishonest about the climate control storage situation, generally when games are stored in a consistent environment, they don't develop browning of the shrinkwrap as these titles appear to have. I have sealed games from the early 80s that still have pristine wrap because they were stored in ideal conditions. That doesn't appear to be the case here.
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yea. and after ebay and paypal took probably %22 of the total cost including shipping... well. the seller didnt get what he should have. good to see other copies exist. better chance they will get "ripped"
shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution.
then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something.
Ebay takes 10% and Paypal is 3%. Not sure where your 22% is coming from.
eBay takes 15% of game sales now. Paypal takes 3%. The other factor are LISTING FEES, and TRANSACTION FEES. eBay takes a fee for listing the item, bold, extra pics, gallery, etc.... Paypal 30 cents per transaction on top of the 3%. On average 20 - 25% of a sale is taken out. Now with Schedule 1099K this year, as I understand it, the feds are going to tax the whole thing, shipping and all. I may be out of the eBay business all together after that brick falls. I've always reported my gains. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay 30%ish on eBay sales. I'm lucky if I double up on items these days.
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I'm sorry, but you are just plain wrong about the fees for auctions. If you do a traditional Ebay auction starting at a penny, the first 50 insertions are waived and the only fee they charge is 9% of the final value to a maximum of $100. Paypal is 3%. Now, if you're setting up a store or selling everything as fixed price/BIN, you're correct that higher fees apply, but that is not relevant here as the guy was talking about sticking it up on Ebay and letting the market take its course. Extra photos and listing enhancements are completely optional, but even maxing everything out is only another couple bucks which is a tiny percentage of something worth a minimum of a couple hundred bucks.
The Ebay tax reporting stuff for this year is completely irrelevant. You only owe taxes on gain anyway. The only people who are going to be impacted are people who sell over $20K and (note that it's not "or") 200 items in 2011. If you're selling that much stuff, you're not just an average person getting rid of excess stuff, you're a business. Regardless, you owe taxes on your gains and you're legally required to report them anyway, so this is nothing new.
I get that people are hostile towards Ebay, but frankly, I'm hostile to all the flippers and members here and elsewhere who opt to sell there instead of listing stuff here and on other marketplace forums to help out their fellow collectors. If you don't want to pay the fees and take advantage of what Ebay is offering, there is always free listings here and elsewhere and Craigslist.
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yea. and after ebay and paypal took probably %22 of the total cost including shipping... well. the seller didnt get what he should have. good to see other copies exist. better chance they will get "ripped"
shame atariage members couldnt make a group "pitch in what you can" purchase, then let atariage "rip" the file and you just get to DL the file for your $1 contribution.
then atariage could keep the original for safekeeping. and while you only had to pitch in a few buck everyone would have access to the file. maybe even a copied cassette with copied insert. but of course saying atariage or something.
Ebay takes 10% and Paypal is 3%. Not sure where your 22% is coming from.
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The Commodore C65 has always puzzled me. I remember when they were being sold by a liquidator called Grapevine Group through magazine ads as both motherboards and complete units after Commodore shut down in 1994/95. They even posted pictures of the floor of an entire room covered with the units in various states. I think they were $100-$150 for a complete unit. While they are undoubtedly rare (maybe 20 complete units not all of which would boot and under 50 motherboards in various states of assembly), they certainly aren't the rarest Commodore prototype hardware and they were developed very late in Commodore's history, long after the golden age of the C64, so I'm not really that clear as to why collectors are paying so much to own one. It's not like it was a long-rumored project that Commodore users dreamed about and never got to own. I just can't see paying more than $1K-$2K for something like this, but I guess the marketplace has a very different way of valuing this particular item.
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being a newbie here and I had the luck to watch this....
this is the meaning of the "retro sys collector". wiki should have your name and info listed!
keep it going man!
While I admit horrible jealousy and disgust over his having more toys, this is not as much a collection as a business.
If you don't have to suffer to get it, I'm not sure they should put your picture on wikipedia as the definition of collector.
AX
Not sure why it matters in any way that this guy is storing his collection in and around his business. If he was a used game store owner and selling his collection over time, I suppose the argument might be a little more persuasive, but as far as I can tell, he just buys the games for his own collection and decided to open an arcade on the side.
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All of the sellers are buying from the same warehouse in Venezuela. Basically, the stock was owned by an American company that liquidated in the 90s and shipped everything down there. None of the sellers own the warehouse or stock, they just buy what they can afford at the time and then list it on Ebay and keep the cycle going. I have had generally good luck with my purchases from several of the sellers, but even the best of them misrepresent the condition of their stock. At best, many of the items are dinged and dented, some are squished, some are sun faded, some are resealed and some literally have mold, water damage and dead insects inside. I still think it's generally worth the risk, but be prepared to throw some out or at least the box portions. It's not a good option for people looking for mint sealed stuff to keep sealed. If you are a CIB collector that loves being the first to open something and don't insist on perfection, they are a good option.
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You can get some decent money for those. $100 maybe a bit high.
Not anymore, at least not these particular titles which aren't very rare. The Venezuelan find kind of killed the value of many Avalon Hill cassette games. You might be able to get $40-$50 or so on a good day for the set if everything is complete and in nice shape. Sealed/mint copies of the four as a set could still get you $80-$100 on a good day, but even outside of the Venezuelan find, I'm seeing copies of these games pop up more and more on Ebay, many in new sealed condition. It could be that unlike other computer games of the era, they were also sold by bookshops and role playing game shops, so there are just a lot of them out there.
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I honestly just don't understand. Why would any gamer want to do this? If they are getting the games with the intention of trading them back in for another game why would they use this service over Gamefly? Gamefly is $8 a month and I can't imagine it will cost somebody less than that to buy and sell 2 or 3 games a month with this service. Am I missing a key element here? I have no intention of being mean or anything here, I just want to understand.
I think the idea is that he will pay more for trade-ins than Gamestop and other brick and mortar trade-in places. Believe it or not, there is a whole mass of gamers who would probably be better off just doing Gamefly, but for now, they essentially pay a heavy premium for "renting" games by buying them new and trading them in towards other games instead in a perpetual cycle. I wouldn't have believed it myself, but I spent a few Saturday afternoons in Gamestop recently and there was literally a line of people waiting to trade relatively new stuff in (like games that had only been released the week before) for well below what they paid and then immediately put that money into another full price game or pre-order. Gamestop actually makes much of their revenue that way.
I think the major flaw with this proposed business plan is that it doesn't offer consumers the same immediate gratification as Gamestop or another brick and mortar trade in place, it will be expensive to operate given the need to pay postage both ways and cover the inevitable damage to items being sent through the mail and a percentage will go back to the publisher which cuts into the already slim margin. Still, if he can actually figure out a way to keep costs super low while paying more for trade-ins and having a selection as big as the local competitors, it's possible it could attract a niche group of used buyers who either live in fairly rural areas or just don't like brick and mortar alternatives for whatever reason.
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same seller, same item? different auction # and BIN is now only $18,000
eBay Auction -- Item Number: 350483985165
still overpriced IMHO
This seller has issues. He or the company that listed the item refuses to answer questions about shipping costs or posts pictures of the largest box that holds most of the unit. I believe several forum members made offers and he didn't respond even to reject them. In any event, I believe the most one of these NOS has ever sold for in open auction is just under $2K and there have been several sold for a lot less on arcade collecting sites, even within the past few years, so $18K is wishful thinking to an extreme.
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Ooh boy, juicy stuff in that thread on NG.com. Perfect example of why that place is the best place to do business. Any monkey business is quickly nipped in the bud.
There is no monkey business. Look at my feedback on Neo-Geo.com. All positive except that one customer who tried to rip me off. In fact, I sold over $1500 of Neo carts "after" the issue with the one customer, so nothing was "nipped in the bud." In fact, it actually increased my sales. There are a few members who inflate the issue and try to make it some holy war, but they lost.
That's not how I read that thread. You took and held one person's money for over a month, claiming repeatedly that you shipped an item which you finally admitted you hadn't. He had to file a Paypal claim to get a refund. You also stated repeatedly that you ship slow and if people don't like it, they shouldn't buy from you. Of course, you didn't mention that until after people bought from you. Finally, you sent someone a broken system and refused to take responsibility until they filed a claim. Not sure about anyone else, but a seller engaging in that kind of behavior is not someone I would deal with.
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I ended up selling all my Neo stuff over on Neo-Geo.com. Got lots of offers in a short time. I'd try there if AA doesn't work.
Wish I had money to get into Neo Geo again, I miss my collection.
Tempest
He likely moved over here because there are some issues that have been raised with his selling practices over at Neo-Geo.com.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?224425-Scammed-By-lspear76
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I know, and I also said that the beta cards arrived safely when the topic arose.
Point is, if people start to think they are cheated for that amount of money the next step could be getting their money back via PayPal, and then Eric might get into trouble.
I'm just saying what I heard (read) about peoples' doubts, it's better Eric knows of them being restless than if he one day finds his PP account suspended because nobody was straight but complained to PP.
I've been supportive of Eric ever since he first got EotB himself and I have no doubt in my copy arriving myself. But not everyone feels that way, so I thought it's in his best interest to know.
I'm sorry, but this is completely ridiculous. He already explained what his shipping plan would be and he has posted here every day or two to keep updating. On top of that, he has a medical issue that sounds serious, at least serious enough that he is probably very tired and needs to rest. Packing stuff up and dealing with the post office is never easy. Frankly, I'm shocked he would want to deal with international shipping at all given that he has to do a customs declaration and take the risk that the game might get lost in transit and not have much proof to provide Paypal if there is an attempted reversal. Unlike a lot of prior sellers, he didn't even collect money until he had a product ready to go. People really need to chill out and just be patient and if anyone is foolish enough to cancel, there are tons of people who would love to have their game.
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For the 10 third party games, you have two worth roughly $100 each and the other 8 worth maybe $25-$30 each. That's roughly $500.
I think you are way off here. Title Match is crazy hard to find with the box.
A few years ago maybe, but I have seen three in the past six months on Ebay, two of which were mint sealed. This one is open and I'm not sure what shape the box is in. Even if it's worth $150, that would still be well within the $500 I allotted.
I have no idea how I missed every one of those. I am not saying it is Lochjaw or something, but it is definitely really hard to get. 3 of them doesn't change that. A year can go by where none will show up. Boxed 2600 games like Crazy Climber, Swordquest Waterworld, Quadrun and many other high dollar 2600 games all show up much more frequently than a boxed Title Match. Titlematch doesn't go for that kind of money because it isn't a 2600 game, but it is still really rare.
Don't mind bojay. Most of the times I see him post in the marketplace, he's crapping on people's prices.
Actually, when someone posts that they would like an accurate opinion of the current market, I provide it. I spend tons of time looking at Ebay auctions and visiting on-line retailers, often without buying much of anything anymore. I just like to keep current on the market. There are always times when you can get a lot more or a lot less for something depending on a variety of factors. For example, I know a flipper who bought a Mega Man 9 press kit and sold it for significantly more than several other identical copies that sold the same week on Ebay after refusing to negotiate a reasonable price with several people here on the board over a period of many months of trying to sell it. That doesn't mean that the "value" of that particular item was what he ended up getting, just that someone paid that at one given point in time for whatever reason. Having said all that, if someone has specific data to dispute my estimates of this particular collection's value, please feel free to provide specific numbers and the basis for those rather than attacking me or posting non-specific claims about a particular game being "rare" and allegedly never showing up on Ebay.
Oh, so we need to provide specifics to dispute your assessment? I guess you are the gold standard. That is funny because you didn't provide a single example. Your only argument on Title Match was a (very suspect) claim that 3 of them have showed up on Ebay in the last 6 months.
You don't have to do anything. I'm stating what I know to be the facts and if you don't believe them or agree with them, that's fine too. It doesn't change the fact that you have provided no helpful or relevant information in this thread either way. You claimed I was "way off". Ok, if that's the truth, then what in your opinion is a boxed not sealed copy of the game worth in the context of an otherwise sealed collection? Just doing a basic Google search, I found a minty but not sealed PAL copy sold recently on Ebay Australia for $23 AUD. It looks like one complete copy was sold by Atarimania a few years ago for $300 and a sealed copy for slightly more. StLouisRams also had a sealed copy listed for $400 on Ebay for a long while and ended up selling it for significantly less at auction. That was, however, several years ago and as I said, a number of copies have been popping up recently, although they could be PAL for all I know.
Personally, as a sealed collector myself, a collection like this would be worth less to me all together simply because I would be buying it knowing that this game is not sealed and that a significant number of the other games are not in mint condition. I would also probably avoid the whole thing because there is no proof it's NTSC as opposed to PAL or expect a significantly lower price considering that I would just be grabbing a few titles, knowing that I would have to replace at least a third of the games to have a really nice minty set. If this was gem mint with confirmed NTSC copies, this set would easily go for $2K or more. As it stands, I can't see anyone paying anywhere near $2K, but I am happy to be proven wrong and maybe there are sealed collectors who have different standards or ways of valuing collections.
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For the 10 third party games, you have two worth roughly $100 each and the other 8 worth maybe $25-$30 each. That's roughly $500.
I think you are way off here. Title Match is crazy hard to find with the box.
A few years ago maybe, but I have seen three in the past six months on Ebay, two of which were mint sealed. This one is open and I'm not sure what shape the box is in. Even if it's worth $150, that would still be well within the $500 I allotted.
I have no idea how I missed every one of those. I am not saying it is Lochjaw or something, but it is definitely really hard to get. 3 of them doesn't change that. A year can go by where none will show up. Boxed 2600 games like Crazy Climber, Swordquest Waterworld, Quadrun and many other high dollar 2600 games all show up much more frequently than a boxed Title Match. Titlematch doesn't go for that kind of money because it isn't a 2600 game, but it is still really rare.
Don't mind bojay. Most of the times I see him post in the marketplace, he's crapping on people's prices.
Actually, when someone posts that they would like an accurate opinion of the current market, I provide it. I spend tons of time looking at Ebay auctions and visiting on-line retailers, often without buying much of anything anymore. I just like to keep current on the market. There are always times when you can get a lot more or a lot less for something depending on a variety of factors. For example, I know a flipper who bought a Mega Man 9 press kit and sold it for significantly more than several other identical copies that sold the same week on Ebay after refusing to negotiate a reasonable price with several people here on the board over a period of many months of trying to sell it. That doesn't mean that the "value" of that particular item was what he ended up getting, just that someone paid that at one given point in time for whatever reason. Having said all that, if someone has specific data to dispute my estimates of this particular collection's value, please feel free to provide specific numbers and the basis for those rather than attacking me or posting non-specific claims about a particular game being "rare" and allegedly never showing up on Ebay.
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For the 10 third party games, you have two worth roughly $100 each and the other 8 worth maybe $25-$30 each. That's roughly $500.
I think you are way off here. Title Match is crazy hard to find with the box.
A few years ago maybe, but I have seen three in the past six months on Ebay, two of which were mint sealed. This one is open and I'm not sure what shape the box is in. Even if it's worth $150, that would still be well within the $500 I allotted.
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For now I am not breaking it up.
In this particular situation I could see a set getting more then the sum of the parts because there are so many Osheas games in the set and the set is not that large where it would be an impossible task to buy it all in one shot.
I'd like to walk away with 2k after all the fees are paid.
While you might get more than the sum of its parts keeping it together, I think you will be very hard pressed to get anywhere close to $2K after fees, especially given there are no price tags or other chain of custody to prove they are NTSC. When Telegames sold their stock to Classic Game Source, they literally flooded the market with rarer 7800 games. Unfortunately, many were PAL and supposedly even Classic Game Source wasn't aware of that initially. As such, there is still a lot of confusion as to what format is out there in any given sealed collection if it's from more recent sales.
Here's how I would value everything:
For the 10 third party games, you have two worth roughly $100 each and the other 8 worth maybe $25-$30 each. That's roughly $500.
Mario Bros., Commando, Mat Mania, Food Fight, Ninja Golf, and Midnight Mutants are less common and go for roughly $25-$50 each mint sealed. That's roughly another $250 or so.
Then, you have the rarities like Alien Brigade ($60), Basketbrawl ($40), Fatal Run ($40), Ikari ($80), Impossible Mission ($80) , Mean 18 ($50), Motor Psycho ($40), Xenophobe ($40) and Planet Smashers ($40). Allowing for some additional value since they aren't always available (although 2600.com does have many in stock in minty shape right now or had them very recently and usually gets them in on a regular basis), that's another $500.
That leaves 33 O'Shea's or fairly common titles at $5-$10 each. That's another $250 or so, although again, that's assuming the games are minty with no crushing, etc...There have been several sellers dumping titles like Fight Night and Super Huey for a few bucks each and in entire cases for roughly $2 a game recently, so the value has fallen even below O'Sheas levels for some titles.
I don't know how to value the test carts as they look like Best reproductions, but I suppose they could also be legit.
I think best case scenario, you could get $1500 before fees if you found the right buyer, but given the rough shape of some of the rarer titles and the lack of certainty as to their format, I think you're likely to get substantially less.
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Um. You guys know there is another group of people doing the exact same thing already, right?
Check out the Museum of Art and Digital Entertainment (MADE)They were on several newscasts and newspapers a couple months ago trying to raise funds to open up the museum. I donated a few $$ to MADE, but I would really hate to see competing museums trying to exhibit the same thing in the same metropolitan area. It seems like both of your visions and goals are the same, so combining the two collections and visions would be pretty awesome. The only obstacle I see are...egos.
One thing that I agree more with MADE than the Videogame History Museum (VHM) is the location. If you want maximum visibility, it should be in a place that can easily be reached by public transportation, such as Downtown San Francisco. Another plus would be near other attractions. This will attract more tourists since they don't have to rent a car which can be expensive in the Bay Area. I know space will be more expensive, but it may be offset by higher local visibility and attendance. An example of bad location is the Computer History Museum (CHM) in Mountain View. Not many people know about it, yet it seems like everyone knows about the Tech Museum, Children's Discovery Museum, Museum of Modern Art, etc. because they can be reached by public transit. The CHM is in the middle of nowhere, but they did get a free building and land so I guess they can't complain.
I'm sorry, but the whole MADE thing is a tremendously bad idea. They are creating a more generically themed interactive entertainment "museum" by raising one time money for rent on a small retail size location in some of the priciest real estate in the United States. I looked at their board composition and it was a bunch of people I had never heard of and a few advisory board members who have zero ability to raise money. While I don't know the full extent of the Digital Press crew's plans, I do know they have a decade of organizing CGE, appearing with their museum at E3 and other events and more critically, being leaders in the classic gaming community in all aspects of research and preservation. In short, if anyone can make this a reality, it is this particular group. They have my support and I will be making a financial pledge in the next few weeks and I hope everyone else here will as well.
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He didn't accept my offer either...I thought it was pretty generous...
I am starting to think there is an issue with the seller. I sent an e-mail requesting more photos and info about shipping costs and got no response. He also didn't respond at all to any of the offers made by the four people who made them, generous or not.
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Glued or taped shut boxes? 2600 jr I think had a round clear sticker sealing it originally.
Although technically reconditioned consoles have seen the light of day- original owner and reconditioning contractor or Atari.
The 2600A boxes are glued on both ends and the 2600 jr's are shink wrapped but I didn't look close enough for a clear sticker.
I also have a sealed Atari Jaguar system.
Andy
Unfortunately, the 2600 Jr. units from Best aren't factory sealed nor are they completely original. Basically, they were returns from Atari Mexico which Brad at Best repacked with "upgraded" RF adapters and cables and then shrinkwrapped. Whatever they were exposed to in Mexico or in Brad's storage units caused that mold growth that is clearly visible on some of your close-up photos. I have seen this same thing on some other Best units including one I bought from him and returned last year. I suppose if you're just looking for a clean unused base console, it's fine, but as a long-term collectible, you probably don't want a moldy box around your other items, shrinkwrapped or not.
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That is one nice kiosk...it would look nice next to my other one....
Looks like the seller has four offers, but hasn't responded to any of them and they all expired. I wonder what his plan is?
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I have 2 boxed (sealed) Atari 2600A units and 2 sealed Atari Jr consoles. These have been packed away and never opened in about 30 years.
The first one is a standard 2600A.
The Second one is a "factory reconditioned" 2600A model.
The other Atari Jr. consoles are in red boxes and shrink wrapped.
Again, all are sealed and are time capsules of gaming history.
I am accepting offers.
Thanks for looking,
Andy
Decatur, IL
The 2600 JR was never sold at retail shrinkwrapped. Are you sure these weren't purchased from Best Electronics or re-sealed at some point?
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Notice how the panel is chewed up on the right end? Sad... someone could be enjoying that. Don't worry, the way he is hanging on to it, eventually he will bequeath it to someone who doesn't give a crap, and it will be sold for $100 on CL.
AX
Actually, I think the panel is not damaged at all. That's just the styrofoam it's pressing into that you're seeing. Of course, it's hard to tell from the photos.
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I would think $40K would mean better photos of all the boxes, and a much more detailed description...
Pretty sure this guy posted on here last year and posted the exact same three pictures. He never responded to PMs or e-mails. He also has never shown pictures of the largest of the three crates or explained what he would charge to ship. If it's legit, the third and largest crate would probably be several hundred dollars to ship, mostly because of its dimensional size and not just weight. Personally, I don't get why he is listing it the way he is with little or no details, an outrageous BIN and using an outside service as he is giving up a good chunk of money for very little additional service.
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Playstation 2 games going up in prices?
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This is the "marketplace" subforum. It's for buying, selling or trading as well as advertising Ebay items. Which of these does your post seek to do? There are other forums for discussing modern gaming and pricing trends.
To hopefully put an end to this discussion, the guy has one of every single PS2 US released game. So, yes, he has Frogger with the pad which is dirt common. He doesn't collect demos, variants, promos, prototypes, etc...I get that you're jealous, but you need to get over it. He has one of every single PS2 game released in the US. So, that includes every game by its very definition. According to his posts on other sites, he paid full MSRP for some games and a lot less than that for others. Since he didn't start collecting PS2 until a few years ago, I'm sure many games were purchased at bargain prices. Why does it matter if his games are worth less today than what he paid for them? He's not looking to sell, so it's a moot point.
As for Tony Hawk Project 8, are you saying the disc or game case itself has a unique number or the outer box? If it's just the cardboard box, who cares? Frankly, who cares either way? He has all the Tony Hawk games and none of them are rare, including Project 8 with the skateboard included. There is one on Ebay right now NIB mint for $100. Wasn't the original release price something close to that anyway?