bojay1997

I just don't think he understands how many bridges he has burned. Keep in mind that I placed an order with him six months ago, never got it and he never replied to multiple e-mails. Finally I had to do a Paypal chargeback to get a refund. Apparently, he thinks this is no big deal as he felt no concern about sending me an e-mail directing me to his website to make an offer on everything. Many people had horrible experiences with him when he was selling on Ebay and getting insulted when people were offering the current value of the items. I don't think he understands the reality of both the Lynx and Jaguar market currently. The vast majority of the Lynx library can be purchased for $5 a game sealed mint from various vendors. Similarly, most Jaguar games can be purchased for $20 or less sealed/mint/shipped. Yes, there are some more valuable games, but he only has a few copies of each of them. He would literally have to drop most of his prices 70%-80% just to get down to current retail and that doesn't include the fact that the new purchaser will want a good wholesale price so they can make a solid margin given the shipping and storage costs for a lot of junk that will sit for years.

There was a clear representation that there were two in existence. One taht was being sold and the other that was to remain in the seller's collection Except it was a different seller... wasn't it? It sure was.

The shot of the case/manual/CD pushed me over the top. Order submitted. Very well done Carl!

Well, after a year of not returning my e-mails requesting to buy a couple of games, I got a strange e-mail from Peter Curry this morning directing me to his website. Apparently, he is trying to sell his entire stock of Game.com, Lynx and Jaguar gear in one shot. Unfortunately, he estimates it's value at $350K where I would estimate it at maybe less than a quarter of that on a good day. In any event, if you're curious about what he has, you can check out www.goatari.com I'm guessing he won't sell cheap and given my past dealings with him, he will be very insulted if anyone is honest with him about his valuation.

Those sealed games are worth maybe $5-$10 each if they are pristine. None of them are particularly rare. That's maybe $200 on a good day. Where's the other $3300 in value?

I don't know why people have to be so negative. This is just plain rude. Competition and free enterprise is what made this country great. I'm sorry, but opening a business for which there is zero demand on a whim in a half-assed way is not what made this country great.

You are kidding, right? There's an entire subforum here dedicated to it. This site hosts the ROMS of ALL Atari Console Games, and all of the various releases of Atari console emulators. Most of the major and minor developers in the Atari emulation scene are frequent posters here. There are currently active and ongoing topics in ALL of the various console specific forums about the ongoing update status of the various emulators, homebrew development, and rom preservation here. In fact, I would argue that homebrew and hack game development, and testing and playing them in emulators pretty much dominates the conversation in 3/4 of this board. Especially in teh 2600, 5200 and 7800 forums - not to mention the development forums. Yes, there is one subforum out of 37 total which only has a total of 2001 posts and 13,097 replies, placing it in the bottom third of all the subforums and below even current events in total activity. I would dispute your claim that emulators and roms "dominate" this board. It's a small part of it and I can confidently say that the overwhelming majority of the folks in the emulation community also have a physical collection. In fact, many people here actually buy reproduction versions of cartridges of the roms that get released simply because they prefer to have a physical version and the board creator has a small side business which makes these releases possible. You are in the minority here and while I support your right to express your opinions and participate, there is simply no arguing the fact that your views are out of touch with the vast majority of the participants on this board and don't reflect anyone else's opinion but your own.

So would this mean that Tanman doesnt have to pay tax on the sale of his boxed Air Raid? It was a personal use asset that he had bought years ago... No, because per the second to last sentence, he clearly sold it for more than he paid, so the sale would be reportable.

Assuming that the vast majority of users on this site are hardcore collectors is pure folly. Many users here are really only interested in the games themselves, and don't collect at all. A good deal of people here like myself will occasionally buy real hardware when it's found for a reasonable price, but are disgusted by the insanely inflated prices of certain "rarities". Emulation wouldn't exist and be talked about at length here, if collecting were the focus of this site, or somehow against the "collectors principles" being employed here. Although you raise some interesting points, the reality is that the overwhelming majority of people registered and participating on this site are collectors. This really isn't a generic interest site for video games or even classic video games. The site is structured to provide collectors with the tools they need to pursue collecting including box and manual scans, rarity scales, checklists, etc...Besides yourself, I don't know anyone else on here who doesn't have some form of physical game collection and according to your own post, you do actually have some physical stuff if it can be found cheap enough. I'm not sure where you're seeing all this focus on emulation, but the only discussions I have seen about it involves efforts to preserve physical stuff that's incredibly rare or at risk of being destroyed by time. There are certainly lots of sites focused on creating emulators and distributing roms, but this sure isn't even close to being one of them. Honestly, I can't tell if you're trolling or not, but I would hope that you would at least be respectful of the fact that most of us are collectors and pretty savvy about what we collect and don't really agree with your basic views on the subject.

I have had good experiences with them over the years, but be aware that as of the current date, all they basically have left is some Lynx and Jaguar stuff. Almost everything I have asked about that they listed not on those two lists is no longer in stock.

I'm sorry, but whether you already paid tax on something when you bought it or not, you still owe tax on any gain or profit you make from selling something whether it's on Ebay, at a garage sale, etc...I believe they are still not going to send out tax forms if you sell less than $20,000 and have less than 200 transactions in a year.

Probably has something to do with that whole pesky 'copyright infringement' thing... Was pretty sure that one of those sites (it had a black background) had the rights. It was the artist for Warlords and Checkers etc selling prints of his work and unreleased works. AX Unlikely. The box art was almost certainly done as a work for hire, so the artist has no rights to sell anything Atari already paid him for.

I actually was very close to getting a NIB system, controllers and a bunch of sealed games from a Craigslist posting five years ago in San Jose. Unfortunately, the seller stopped responding to e-mails. I'm guessing he found another buyer. I still feel great regret as I haven't seen another NIB one since.

No kidding! You guys can thank whatever deity you worship that I'm not a moderator on here. This is getting insane! I can understand the initial doubting, but once the pictures came out, accept that it exists, and help these people out. You may have been able to get a reward of a good deal out of it... but I wouldn't be surprised if these people left here thinking "Holy shit, what a bunch of assholes!" Way to make the community look good. If members of this community can denigrate legends of Atari like Nolan Bushnell, and Rob Folup, than this should come as no surprise. I think a healthy amount of skepticism when someone posts something like this is appropriate. I also think Nolan Bushnell and Rob Fulop are not beyond criticism for some of the things they have done. Having said that, this thread is way out of hand.

A few NIB Xenophobes pop up every couple months on eBay from Venezuela the past year or two (I bought one from there). A guy in Florida has been selling them for some time now on eBay eBay Auction -- Item Number: 310293857014 for $19.99 ... currently he has more than 10 for sale. Those are PAL copies being sold from Florida.

Wall ball is hardly a R7. Given the availability of games over the last few years, the rarity guide is in serious need of updating. Games like glib and qberts qubes can be had almost any day of the week yet they are still classified as R9s on AA. Given Wall Ball does not have any nostalgic relevance you can expect that once it is available in numbers like it currently is that it will be seling for less than even frogger carts True enough it is one of the more common rarity 7 games. Comes up almost as often as Atari Video Cube. Speaking of rarity guide changes, I see that Xenophobe is still a rarity 7. If I am not mistaken that was part of the great Venezuelan find. There are just as many Xenophobes as there are Motorodeo, and Ikari Warriors out there. If you are going to make those rarity 5 games, than Xenophobe needs to be dropped down to a rarity 5 game. Actually, far fewer Xenophobes came out of the Venezuelan (maybe a 5 total) find than Motorodeos and Ikari Warriors (dozens of each and they are still popping up).

Are you sure that these can be played on NTSC? I believe there were different versions of the games for PAL and NTSC as I believe the Stella Gets a New Brain CD came with roms for both versions of most games.

I can't speak to the quality or fun of games themselves as I have not played them, but I have some problems with your review in that it ignores a number of the problems others have pointed out with these releases. First, contrary to your claims, several of the games are incomplete. The developer had always intended for there to be more and they simply weren't finished. Even the guys publishing these releases would be the first to admit that several of these are incomplete. The fact that you feel satisfied with essentially half a game is irrelevant. Indeed, these were supposed to be large games like the Starpath titles which were either cassette based or on a very large multicart. Second, the boxes and other materials are horrible. They aren't based on any of the original art to the extent it existed and as original pieces, they are amateurish. Indeed, Atari cartridges in the US were never released in plastic cases of this type as far as I know, so I consider that as a major problem from the collector's perspective. Finally, the releases are overpriced and could have been combined on multi-carts just like they were originally intended to be released. Charging $230 for a set of six mediocre games, several of which are not finished is just the epitome of arrogance. I could maybe understand if additional work was done to complete the games or really professional art and cardboard boxes were created, but this is just six carts in plastic cases with some awful looking artwork. Very, very amateur and sadly, I can't support a release of this type. Hopefully someday someone will come along and actually do some work on these releases to issue them in something which more closely resembles their intended release state.

Well, considering how inflated many of those auctions ended up going (I'm assuming it was the Susan Sells the Goods set of auctions), it's really the least the seller could have done. I can't believe some people were bidding $30-$40 a piece for some not so hard to find copies of Electronic Games in not even mint condition.

it's a licensed copy that was sold at New England Computer Game Expo in 2003...sometimes for different conventions they make up "x" amount of games for the show...with this being Star Wars related, it had to clear the rights and be licensed to get released...so it's a little different from other types of games like this and i dont think they made very many or ever made another run because of the license issue involved. This game was never released, the prototype was a 1/1 and used to make the small run of these for the convention almost 8 years ago. as far as i know, that is the story as i remember it. Are you sure this was licensed? That would have involved getting permission from both Parker Bros. and Lucasfilm which are both very difficult to obtain. I never heard anything about this being licensed.

Unfortunately, these particular magazines generally sell for a buck each tops, so paying flat rate postage on top of that is probably a deal killer as it will effectively double the price. You're best bet is to find someone local who will pick them up or find another cheaper means of postage.

My guess is that you are extremely off on this estimate. I would say they probably made around 10 to 15 million carts in total for Defender, Asteroids, Combat, and Pac-man. I would also venture to guess that over 90 percent of these games have been thrown out, reused for homebrews, and destroyed. So in actuality there are probably 1 to 1.5 million examples of these games floating around somewhere. The problem is this. There is not that many collectors for the Atari 2600. Sure we have our fair share, but not enough to make up for supply. If there ever was an influx of Atari 2600 collectors than things will change. Even if there were tens of thousands of 2600 collectors (which I don't believe there are and likely never will be), a million carts would more than fill their collections many times over. The reality is that like all mass produced items made from durable materials, these games will always be common and the outrageous prices for rarer items are being paid by a few people who are completists. Why should any of us hope for a change? Personally, I'm happy I can find everything I want or need for my collection at still fairly reasonable prices. I could care less if a few wealthy collectors are driving up prices of rare stuff I have no interest in owning.

Actually rarity is a huge part of how the value of all of those items are priced as well. It's why Archie comics are pretty worthless even though at one point they were super popular. The problem is, people just kept too many copies and so the rarity isn't there. Yes, nostalgia and appeal of the actual subject matter plays a role in pricing, but it does for video games as well. For some of us, the heavy sixer was not our first Atari console. Personally my first Atari 2600 was a four switch which means that particular design has more appeal to me than something I never owned as a child. I would agree that sealed NES collectors pay amazing amounts for common carts that were sold in the millions, but they also pay tons for rare games that aren't all that fun to play, just like Atari collectors do. To some extent that bubble is starting to pop as more and more copies are showing up and people are starting to realize that if you are paying several hundred dollars per game, you're either going to have to be really wealthy or be content with a tiny collection. As someone else pointed out, you may also be confusing rarity with supply and demand. Like most collectors, I have a list of games and items I would like to own as part of my collection. Items are placed on that list for a variety of reasons. Some of them hold sentimental value because I owned them as a kid. Some I have good memories of playing at a friend's house. Some I just saw or read about in a video game magazine. Some I just want because I want to complete a particular sub-set or collection. For example, I only collect mint sealed Atari 2600 games by Atari and a handful of third party major publishers. Stuff by companies like CommaVid and other smaller companies has zero value to me because I never played it as a kid and never even saw it anywhere. Depending on what my priorities are at any given moment, something might be worth bidding more or less to obtain. Similarly, there are some items which I would never own because they simply have no value at all to me, even though they are rare and very much in demand. I've been collecting long enough to know what will eventually show up and what won't. What I pay for stuff I want is entirely based on those probabilities, but again, it's not so much the rarity of those items in and of itself, but what I feel I need to own for my collection to be "complete" and the timeframe in which I would like to collect them.

Best has a tendency to ship these in not the best shape. I bought the same thing from them 2-3 years ago and it arrived in a pretty beat up box which they shrinkwrapped (I don't think the Jr. ever came shrinkwrapped)and they basically pick and choose original and after market stuff to put in the box. Basically, these were Atari Mexico units that were found in a warehouse and Best assembles various "upgraded" parts to make the package complete. Personally, as a collector, I think that's a lot less valuable than a nice mint boxed original unit, but to each their own.

It would be interesting to know what everything sold for. These must have been some amazing offers to sell them so quickly without listening to other offers.