Dr. Morbis

I think Christianscott27 is right on the money. And with the way the industry is entrenched now it's going to be even worse in the future for those who are in this for the money. Anyone who's collecting Xbox/GC/PS2 games for speculative reasons is in for a rude awakening.

You brought the whole 'cartoon' issue into this thread and now you are trying to use it against me? Where did I say I prefer my games to be cartoony? And by the way, saying that every single thing that's not realistic is cartoony is a cop out. Anyway, I will try to address this difference of opinion in a more general sense than rebuking every sentence individually like you do. --- The direction in which videogaming is currently headed is clearly towards a goal of creating a real life holodeck, similar to the fictional ones seen in Star Trek. Assuming you’ve seen Star Trek, do you really consider the holodeck to be a game? I’m not talking about a crew member turning it into a basketball court or tennis court (which they could do if they felt like playing a game while in the holodeck), but when the captain turns the holodeck into a tropical beach or a restaurant in Paris. Is that a game? I say no. It is an experience; an escape from reality, not a game. I look to books and movies for an ‘escape’ and I look to videogames when I want to play a game. Judging from your posts, you look to videogames more for the escapism than any gaming aspect, not that there’s anything wrong with that. It’s just a preferential difference. Your attacking someone because they enjoy 8bit games over modern games is akin to mocking a movie buff who prefers black and white movies to color ones. What you might fail to realize is that the reason the movie buff prefers b&w’s may actually have nothing to do with color at all. He may generally enjoy them because they were more plot-driven and focused on character development. It just so happens that when that was the focus director’s generally took, b&w was the norm. Similarly, I do not enjoy classic games more because they are 2D, nor do I dislike most modern games because they are 3D. It just so happens that the qualities that draw me to a game were much more prevalent back when most games were released in a 2D form than they are now. As a result, most of the games that have the qualities that I look for happen to be 2D. And this could easily change for me in the coming years if game companies decide to change their current focus. Your attempt to belittle me for having different taste in videogames than yourself is utterly ridiculous (“crawl outside of that box”, “because you know I’m right”, etc). Do you seriously believe that someone who gets more enjoyment out of modern games than retro ones is enlightened? They are so different it’s like apples and oranges. It comes down to a matter of preference and what you are doing in this thread is attacking someone else’s personal preference in a cocky and antagonizing manner. Finally, this thread was started by a member who was getting really excited about the Genesis and posed an interesting question to the rest of us. To come in and basically say that anyone who shares the thread-starter's point of view is ignorant, especially on a classicgaming board, seems like trolling to me. Anyway, I hope you don't take this response personally. But somehow I can see a sentence-to-sentence disection coming...

No but your summary of current/future gaming proves that they're certainly not going down that path: ALL of those things can be done in real life in our modern world. Every last one of them. That's called reality. Think outside the box. Most of the things you could do in 8 bit games could not possibly be done in real life (ie: stomp a goomba. Insert "cartoony" remark here). Games have rules or parameters. The more you can do, the less you are playing a game. You seem to be more about living a virtual reality experience than playing an actual game with set rules that severely limit what you can do (for reference see the rules for all sports, board games, card games, etc). 8bit games had stricter parameters and were more "game"-like to me. Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you point for point, but I will say this: your reply was quite immature in that it was inflammatory, derogatory, and condescending (though I did get a kick out of your frequent use of the word 'cartoony' in an attempt to put me in my place). This is the internet, and you are an adult. Not everyone is going to agree with everything you say.

This is what I can't stand about *most* modern games. Why all the drive for realism? What's the point? Gaming is supposed to be an escape from reality. I find it almost humorous that some guys in a cubicle are paid to spend hours pre-rendering a tree (for example) to look as life-like as possible. If I want to see a tree, I'll look out my window. That's why I loved the pre-playstation era. All that creative energy and imagination is gone. GTA players prefer (I guess) to just pretend they are goons who can flaunt the laws of society and be complete a-holes for kicks. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Or maybe I'm just old enough to get the "been there, done that" feeling with every new 3D game that comes down the pipe. But I can play a new NES game that I've never heard of that will blow me away with it's unique game play or funky universe, and it will feel more fresh than the newest release for the current gen. Anyway, as for the topic question, replace Genesis with NES and I'm right there with you man!

I like US games because they gave the world Sneak 'N Peak, the most unintentionally funny game in all existence. I played the game with a friend once (emulated, sadly I can't find the cart to save my life) and the two of us just about died we were laughing so hard. Even the name is funny (to me).

Are you from the future?

Like Jess Ragan said, the game is based on pattern memorization just like Ninja Gaiden. Going through these games the first time is tough as nails, but they are quite masterable (I doubt that's a real word!). You didn't see the difficulty jump until the Reaper? I found that the difficulty took it up a notch when you fell down the pit to start Level 4. You had bottomless pits, hovering platforms and those dastardly bats to contend with at the same time. And if you lost your triple shot cross or holy water before you got to Frankenstein, he was a handful. Just like you, I didn't beat this game till many years after I got. It was given to me as a birthday present in 1989 and I didn't beat it until summer of 2001 when I was on a mission to beat all those "impossible" NES games that I couldn't finish in my youth. Anyway Castlevania is a great game, probably my favourite of the series (not a big fan of the later Metroid-vanias).

I voted "other": Pressure Cooker maxed out (VCS). Alot of his scores are based on endurance involving rote memorization and repetetive play, or are games that can be maxed so Todd has to share his record with one or several other people. But the #2 to #10 guys in Pressure Cooker aren't even remotely close to his score.The game ony goes to 1 million points but Todd is (apparently) the only guy to ever do it?!?. Anyone who has played the game knows that despite its replay value and high level of addictiveness, it is insanely difficult on the later levels and requires just as much (if not more) quick-thinking than actual reflexes, which must be dead-perfect to begin with. To play this game well you have to be a very well rounded gamer.

1.NES 2.VCS 3.SNES 4.SMS 5.7800

Mine is 38180G but right now it has color problems. After 5 minutes of play the colors go all psychadelic and settle either on back and white or on something really funky (Kaboom's green background went bright red last time). I can fix it by manually readjusting the color pot, but it always goes bad again after five minutes. Ah, well, it's still a heavy 6'er and (hopefully) it's fixable.

Did you put Shaq Fu in there just to see if we were paying attention, or are you posting this from your cell in Bellview? Also, I don't know how many people were stampeding into stores in the 90's to buy a SNES just so they could play TMNT 4 and a lot of other games on your list. A great game does not a killer app make :!:

Does anyone have a spare of the 2600 version of the Atari Advantage Poster? It came with later red-label Atari games. It has a mural on the front and screenshots of VCS games on the back. I can pay via paypal or whatever. PM me if you can help me out!

I voted for the SMS; it was the forbidden fruit of the NES era that I grew up in. I enjoy discovering new games that I've never heard of to this very day due to Sega's lack of marketshare. My only complaint is that most of the common SMS games suck balls, while almost all of the great games are very hard to find. I can't stand the Genesis, it was soooo bogged down with bucketloads of useless sports games, and a bad ratio of good to bad games overall (IMHO of course). I'm sure glad that the yearly sports update/simulations with licensed players didn't start until the pristine 8bit era was dead and buried. I'd much rather be called out at 2nd base by a rabbit umpire in Bad News Baseball than play Madden '93, revision 12

Some people here are listing sequels or future games in a series that they don't like as much as the original. I think the question being asked is about different versions of the same game. Saying you like Super Mario Kart better than Mario Kart 64 isn't really relevant here. As someone already mentioned, I almost always prefer playing games on the original platform they were programmed for. Games that were "ported" down (to an inferior console) or "ported" up (to a superior console) seldom have the same appeal as the original port. Some examples of technologically "inferior" versions that I prefer: -Pretty much ALL Activision VCS games, especially Pitfall and HERO. -Most arcade games "ported down" to the NES by Capcom and Konami (ie: Contra, Bionic Commando, etc) -NES Battletoads

You've all seen this one before: "GO HOME AND BE A FAMILY MAN" Who can name the game and character?

If you feel like adventuring from the norm a bit, try Legend of the Ghost Lion. It's like all the other turned-based RPG's except you do NOT gain experience from fighting; you have to find seeds that increase your levels. It makes things quite interesting, you can't pump yourself up to get past a tough boss. It also lets you summon animals to help you during battle, which may be the first RPG to that (at least one of the first).

Who's condescending? Lighten up buddy. If having one person on the anonymous internet disagree with your point of view gets you into this much of a tizzy, you're in for a rough life. Okay, deep breaths... You're chinese argument is valid if you are talking about someone who has never tried sweet and sour chicken in his entire life, and still refuses to do so. However, if a person has tried it and knows they don't like it, they are not ignorant or "just plain stupid" as you put it for not wanting to forcefeed it to themselves again and again just to reinforece their dislike of sweet and sour chicken. You say you don't like horror movies but loved Dawn of the Dead. How many painstakingly dull horror movies did you force yourself to sit through to discover that golden nugget? For me, it's not worth the time to play 150 shitty games in a genre I don't like in an attempt to find that genre's crown jewel. Calling someone "stupid" in an argument will get you nowhere. You will learn this. All I was saying with my previous post is that your post above that was pig-headed. My horror movie example wasn't the best, and I wouldn't have mentioned it if I had known you would be so highly offended. Speaking of statistics, some of us understand that since the dawn of the videogame industry 90% of all games released have been garbage. But if you feel the urge to play every piece of shit that comes down the pipe despite this in order to "keep an open mind", by all means be my guest. ...and if you can manage to dig yourself out of all that shit when you do find the diamond in the rough, do me a favour and let me know which game it is so I can give it a try.

That's like telling someone who detests horror movies and doesn't enjoy watching them at all that they should go and see just as many horror movies as any other genre or else they'll "miss out on lots of great experiences". Perhaps you don't understand that what you consider a "great experience", I might consider a boring waste of time.

I used to be 50/50 until this generation hit in 2001. Since then I've been 99% oldschool. I'm going to try and jump back in with the next round of consoles, but modern games are really starting to bore me to tears.

IMHO, the game might have been better if rather than having three lives, dying cost the player some amount of time (say 3 minutes) on the clock. 924202[/snapback] That's the exact same thing as having only one life. If you lose 3 minutes after your first death, collecting all the treasures becomes impossible. The only way to beat the game under your proposed conditions would be to do a no-death run.

Tower Toppler was also released on NES, as "Castelian". They seem pretty similar to me, but I haven't given either version much play. You should get ahold of a copy and make a comparison.

Thunder Castle stands heads and shoulders above all other Inty games. I love that game

I had to vote for Mega Man 2, but the original Mega Man 1 is not far behind.

Oh, and by the way, it did NOT come with instructions. A complete copy is the cart, box, and little warning sheet of paper.

If it has a sticker on the back of the cart that says "Cheetamen II" (yes they spelled it wrong ) then that's what it is. Some did not have a sticker though. Another way to tell is by looking at the board itself. The Action 52 board is completely covered with ROM chips. The Cheetahmen II board is mostly barren. By looking at your picture, I'd say there's a 99.9% chance that you have a Cheetahmen II cart. BTW, finding one of these in the wild is extremely rare as almost all of them were sold directly to collectors (the game was never officially released or sold anywhere). Where did you find it (city, state, etc) and was it sealed or open? Finally, Congrats!