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If they are indeed re-releasing the Coleco tabletop games, they would have likely acquired the rights for DK and Frogger. That would explain their usage on promotional materials. Not saying that's the case 100%, but people really need to stop declaring people guilty without knowing the full story.
If they really had permission to use DK and Frogger, THEN WHY WERE THEY SO QUICK TO REMOVE THEM FROM THEIR FB COVER PHOTO AFTER IT WAS POINTED OUT? That in itself is an admission of guilt.
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I also don't buy their excuse that they don't want lewd content. BULLSHIT. After all, they reported SO MANY IMAGES that weren't even remotely lewd.
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If your assessment was correct then Coleco Holdings would not have gone after everyone under the sun! Just the one developer with questionable content.
DAMN RIGHT.
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And in addition to being assholes throughout the whole process, Coleco has also been hypocrites by using Nintendo-owned and Konami-owned trademarks in their promotional materials! No wrongdoing by the fan site, but wrongdoing hypocritical Coleco decides to bully them.
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I think the whole purpose behind what's happening here is getting lost in all the commotion. Here's the way read what's going on:
The Coleco brand is currently in the process of being 'reborn' so to speak. The products they're licensing the brand to are all family friendly and meet some type of brand guidelines they have in mind to represent the brand. They've seen their trademark being used in a manner which they feel doesn't properly represent their company, on the adult games, and they want that usage to stop. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Some of you have made jokes about the content on the covers of those adult games, but to the company it's not a joke.
There's also been on-going talk of them re-releasing the Coleco tabletop games and doing other things within the gaming market. As those activities progress, they are likely becoming more and more uncomfortable with their trademark being placed on homebrew titles which are ports of IPs the developers\publishers don't have the rights to. It puts them in a potentially bad situation, especially if they're negotiating with some of those companies for their upcoming products (i.e. Nintendo for the DK tabletop game).
In the end, regardless what their ultimate reasons are, it's up to them as to how the trademark is used.
With the said, the way they're going about things is questionable. A fan site shouldn't be involved in this at all. It should be between the trademark holder and the homebrew game publishers. I think all they're ultimately trying to do is ensure their trademark is only going on products that fit the new brand guidelines. I'm not sure why anyone here would have a problem with that, given that no one here is entitled to use the trademark without permission anyways. I think some homebrew developers\publishers have gotten way too comfortable over the years with using IP belong to others, without proper permission to do so.
My suggestion would be for Coleco Holdings to pause for a moment and rethink their approach. They've mentioned their willingness to work with the homebrew community. If that's really the case, they need to draft up full documentation around their brand guidelines and share them with the game publishers. Any publisher who is willing to abide by the guidelines could then work with Coleco Holdings to sign an agreement for use of the trademark for products meeting guideline standards. Any products not meeting the standards will need to be released without the trademark.
Except Coleco has done NOTHING to indicate that they are willing to be professional or work with anybody at all. It was bad enough that they bullied a fan page, but they went even further and spread lies about the fan page while being antagonistic bastards. There has been no professional courtesy whatsoever from Coleco's side. Nobody's upset that Coleco has guidelines; we're upset that they spread lies, lie about what trademarks they own, and are assholes throughout the whole process.
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I seriously doubt he's hurting for money with dad's window business. If anything the opposite is the problem.
You hear that, Nintendo? OPPORTUNITY KNOCKS! Go make his wallet lighter, boys!
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Maybe he's that dude who overprices medicine and uses the money to collect unreleased Wu Tang Clan albums.
No way. That dude has enough money to fund his own shitty rap; Cardillo clearly is hurting for money, otherwise he wouldn't be wasting his time with our community.
Edit: In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing Nintendo make his wallet much lighter...
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Cardillo's obviously lying about the goal being to make games a community event; they already were a community event. Cardillo's actions have been nothing but an attempt to dismantle and control the community. "Don't be fooled." Don't worry, Cardillo, we're not fooled by your bull.
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This is really something. If the person posting as "Colecovision" is Cardillo, maybe he should quit while he's ahead. It's clear he doesn't have the resources or experience to pick a legal fight, and this little spat is just calling attention to how silly they are. Total Streisand effect, blowing something up that could have been settled quietly and professionally.
I don't really care about $60 Coleco games in 2017, and don't feel the ancient, moribund brand is affected much one way or another by having some pixelated breasts in an obscure corner of the web. Prudes and "chameleon" scammers are infinitely more offensive to me.
He was never ahead; he's so far behind and always will be with that pea-sized brain of his.
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This discussion on the Coleco Facebook page is just getting stupid. I finally just had to say what was really on my mind and what I think this is really about...
NAILED IT.
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I am not so sure that is Cardillo writing all that, when I have spoken to him he comes across as patient, thoughtful, and willing to listen to constructive criticism, he did not strike me as a stupid man. These posts don't make any sense to me, nor does the entire conflict to be honest.
He could be a lying phony to your face; the world is full of people like that, ESPECIALLY in business.
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cant believe i just read 'Rainbow Brite was a huge pick up'. this is too much.
That, in addition to the guy writing like a third-grade dropout.
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FUCK, I came up with that nickname first! That is my trademark right there! You can't use, sorry...

Eat my shorts. Wait, I can't say that, either, can I? Dagnabbit!
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And another thing... "Where were you?" SERIOUSLY? I don't even give a rat's ass about Rainbow Brite, but I KNEW ABOUT IT despite never liking your FB page. How did I know about it? BECAUSE OF THE FAN PAGE. So yes, they were there. Where were YOU, Coleco? Were you busy tying some poor girl to the train tracks?
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Have you guys thought about a hacked account?
There is no way that a properly educated adult, representing a company, wrote this...
Since when is a wannabe rapper an educated adult?
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Coleco just needs to STFU. They're doing nothing but rambling on and on after their lies and false accusations; to have the audacity to accuse you of not being "true fans" is even more absurd. Coleco, you are nothing but a bunch of failures behind the curtain. If you have a PR team, that entire team should be fired, starting with yourselves.
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Star Wars - 26,831
Star Trek - 3,350 (I've always sucked at this game!!!)
Buck Rogers - 16,703
joe's buck rogers - 16,703.pngA.E. - 80,800 (+4 Bonus for 50,000+)
(All 4 Pictures Bonus = +5)
p.s. - my pictures used to upload as thumbnails...now full size...anyone know why?
I think they upload as thumbnails if you choose to just simply attach the files; if you attach them and then click on ADD TO POST, then it becomes full-size. I could be mistaken, but that's the way it works, I think (I always attach and then choose ADD TO POST when I submit them).
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This round has ended. Dugger wins the round and the Gift Certificate with an outstanding Skill 4 Zaxxon score, congrats! Thanks to everyone who played.
Received the e-mail for it. Thank you again!
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New personal best for me in Super Cobra: 38,170 pts. I'd like to punch the moron in the face who decided it would be a good idea for a new game to start INSTANTLY with the press of a button. I had to play several times to be able to get a picture of my final score because sometimes you can't help but frantically push buttons to try to shoot what's in front of you and you quickly die and start a new game. STUPID.

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Not as good as the 112k I had yesterday (only 86,900 this time), but I thought I'd share this video nonetheless if any of you want to use it as a guide for navigating the levels on Skill 4 of Zaxxon. This is a complete recording from the beginning, so you'll see more action in this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPzgUJBFwNM





Coleco strong-arming homebrew publishers and fan sites
in ColecoVision / Adam
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No, it's called using common sense. They used the DK and Frogger on their promotional material for MONTHS, and only changed their photo YESTERDAY after they were called out on their hypocrisy. Don't you find that timing too convenient? It's like those frauds who set their house on fire the day after they take out an insurance policy on their home. I'm projecting common sense.