Keith_Sink

He also has the Frogger VCS code as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3385233524

I have one of these as well. My estimate is you're going to get around $400 for it. If it were color(the larger models) you could get up to $800 since those are still being used in the bars.

I would try it in stages: 1st try soapy water, then 409 or equivalent, finally Goof Off. But be careful and test the Goof Off in a non visable area first.

I'm new to the forum and just saw the area about Panda Games. It jogged a memory from when I was in college back in 89. I worked part time for a Video Tape duplication facility back in Charlotte, NC. While working there one night we were told to go over to the abandoned movie theatre next door(the same guy owned both buildings) and get some supplies that were over there. While we were looking for our supplies, I can across piles and piles of Atari 2600 cartridges and boxes with the Panda logo. I asked around and apparently the owner had been in that business back then. They told me they made the cartridges there, but they may have only done duplication of them. There were some big machines near all the cartridges that looked like very old computers, but I can't remember them clearly. I asked to get some of the games, but they didn't want to give me any of them because some guy was coming to buy everything in the theatre. This is the first time I've ever heard of those cartridges outside of that place.

I think this board set is a bootleg. Not legal out on location, but good for a home collection. My friend pointed me to one of these on ebay last month. I have not seen any advertising of these games in the video game trade magazines for the industry. The only exceptions to this would be the Galaga/Ms. Pacman cabinets that are still selling. And the Ultra Cade system. This system has a CD rom player and emulator and you have to pay for the CD's with the games.

As far as prices go for pinballs, I'll give you my experiences. Anything older than 1975 is probably not going to get much(<$200). I've had operators try to get me just to take some they had from the 60's. These are the ones that have a large wood cabinet instead of legs. Heavy suckers! Games from 1975 - 1990 go for about $500-$600 depending on condition. Games after 1990 are still popular because they can be used in arcades, bars, etc. And the home market is strong. Also this market learned how to take care of the machines, so you can find nicer games. These go for $500 - $4000 depending on the rariety and condition. Pinballs with popular themes like Star Wars, Star Trek, popular bands, pop culture(Playboy) go the highest in these ranges.

There are two options that I've seen. Either the bar owner owns the machine and takes care of the service and collection themselves. The other method is the one I'm more familiar with; the bar owner asks for a machine and takes a cut of the collections. In exchange the operator cleans, maintains and if necessary replaces the machine. The second option is the norm. I've only met one bar owner who did his own machines and that's because he also owned many bars and was mechanically inclined. You can find these bar top machines at auctions in your area, or check with a local distributor and ask for the older machines. Operators trade up for newer equipment all the time.

Hi everyone. Most EM games don't go for very much unless they were a rare or popular game. I've seen interest in games like "Evil Kenevil", "8-Ball Deluxe", but most people don't want them. And parts are hard to come by. I've actually talked to many people who put more money into restoring the game than they made after selling it. I've been in the business of arcades and pinballs for about 8 years now and I can help you a little bit if you need some advice. In my collection I have a Battle Zone, Space Duel, Dragons Lair, Pac Man, Ms. Pac Man, Twilight Zone pinball and alot of other recent arcade and pinballs. As far as older pinballs, be very careful of the backglass. They have a tendency to chip and flake off. There are sources on the web that have tutorials on stopping the flaking and restoring those games, so check them out for additional advice.