Danno

Cool. I'll be placing my order forthwith. Don't worry too much about wearing out the power switch, they can easily be fixed. If anything it's lack of use that makes them go bad (from oxidation). If you've ever opened up your 7800, you'd see the 4 panel buttons, that are round plastic caps with metal retainer rings, on square enclosures. The caps can be popped off (gently now) and the actual button is just a metal dome contact like those in the joysticks. I had to open them up a scrape off the oxidation to get mine to work when it arrived. popping the plastic caps and retainer rings back into place is a bit more difficult, but if you were careful when you took them out, it should not be a problem. Or you could just electrical tape them into place.

You know - I'm about this [..] close to sending my payment for one tomorrow, but I'm curious about this too. My 7800 successfully plays Space Shuttle, Pitfall II & Decathlon (and I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of my Robot Tank) which I have the carts for, so the general incompatibilites should not be a factor, but are there any other incompatibilites? And does it run the EXACT same way as the original carts, or is there a difference?

LOL. It looks like a prehistoric Jaguar Toilet Seat CD expansion module. Good luck with that. Don't for get to put the seat back down when you're done.

When someone's current ID signed up here has nothing to do with how long they've been here. Nor does it have anything to do with their knowledge. That's a cop out. You said it to be insulting, not because it's relevant. Even though you might have taken my "scumbag" comment as insulting, but it's still relevant. I'm sure many people have multiple ebay ids. I'm sure a few of them are for legitimate purposes, and a few of them are "shill" accounts created to help inflate the bids on stuff they or their friends are selling. And even more of them are "new" accounts to replace old ones on which they received negative feedback, which even though they probably won't admit, they most likely deserved. Sure once in a great while you'll get dinged with a negative feedback on ebay by some clueless twerp that's unjustified, but in general, if you're a good person, you won't get negatives, and even still having one or two against a consistent history of good feedback doesn't matter. Everyone knows there are some people who are never happy. I'm sure there are a number of people who have multiple ebay ids so that they can sell high volumes of stuff and make it look like they only sell a few items, and avoid higher volume ebay fees. That's a sleazy move too. And don't let me dictate whether you're a good ebayer or not. If your conscience is gnawing at you after my comment, I'm sorry.

It's too bad. They seemed like polite enough people, and the price on these games wasn't bad at all. It just irks me when you have to send 3 or 4 emails to get one response, and something that should take a week takes a month.

http://www.orphanvideogames.com I ordered from these guys two things. a complete in box Atari 7800 Summer Games and a 2600 Stargate. Their Customer service is horrible. I orignially sent an email to request these games back in March. About a week later, I got a reply saying "please fill out our online order form to expedite your order." LOL. Expedite. LOL. So I immediately filled out the orfer form which was a cheesy Perl script that was completely unsecured (thankfully they didn't request any sensitive info). I waited ANOTHER week, and sent an email asking what the hell was going on with my order. 3 days later I received an "invoice" which was made using Microsoft Word's Invoice template, and took all of 30 seconds to create. They also finally gave me an email address to Paypal my money to. I waited another week and a half, and I finally received a paypal email saying my order had been shipped. It gets here, and the 2600 Stargate I ordered, ended up being a PAL format version, which won't work in my 7800, and the Sumer Games cart was in good shape, but the box looked like it was found in a dump, box swollen and creased and dented and faded, and the instructions all creased and mangled. and it took a month to get here. And now - I asked to exchange the PAL Stargate for something that works, and I get no response. Man, I really hate scumbags like this.

Well - I agree with you about people being able to buy and sell their stuff as they see fit...to a point. But there are a number of scumbags who are deliberately driving the prices up on games to make a better than expected profit on the tide of the whole "retro gaming fad" banking on a surge of newbies to the collector's world. It's kinda sad. I don't think this Krok cart auction was an example of that, but there are plenty of other examples on Ebay. How many times have you seen a 2600 Pac-Man on ebay listed as "Rare" and selling for like $5.00 or $10.00 when it's really worth about .35 cents?

I wouldn't worry about that. Rare games are still going to be rare games. But hopefully the whole "retro gaming" fad with all these "NES on a stick" pieces of crap they sell in the Malls will go away soon and the prices for Atari commons and semi-rares will go back to normal, so that those of us who just like to PLAY these GAMES won't feel like we're being worked over by Used Car Salesmen.

Ahh...the old "since you're a newbie at this site, you must know less than me." I've been here for a year and a half. Not exactly a newbie, and that matters not anyway - I've been playing these games since 1977. You are holier than thou. Sometimes that's a good thing, other times you look like a fool. I agree with you about too many people gouging and trying to turn a profit on those of us who just like to play these games. See my threads in the 7800 for further evidence of that. Oh and as far as the Krok cart vs. Roms cds debate you[ve created here - make up your damn mind. One minute you're saying "Not that I mind seeing this pulled" and the next you're saying you don't have a problem with it. If you can show me a ROM CD that also serves as a legitmate development tool for NEW Atari games, let me know.

They might be worth 20 times that to you.

I'm tired of people trying to charge New, sealed in box, 1987 prices for for loose 7800 carts with no box and no instructions.

Anyone have an NTSC Stargate 2600 that they would like to trade for a PAL Stargate to complete their collection? I bought this recently online, and the seller didn't know it was PAL. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. I'm not much of a collector, I just wanted the game to play, but the PAL version won't work in my 7800. Anyone looking for the PAL version who has a spare NTSC version?

I'm a dope, and submitted this twice. LOL.

Why do you have multiple ebay ID's? So you can shill against people like this, or so you can gouge people by bidding on your own stuff to inflate the price? Maybe because you got negative feedback because you screwed someone? I wouldn't trust anyone with multiple Ebay Id's. That's just a scumbag move, no matter how you justify it.

Boredom is upon me....

What could have been....

I think Nancy Reagan summed it up best: "Just say no." You can score a working 7800 with probably a good handful of games for $40.

That's what made me take a look at just ponying up the $200 for a Cuttle Cart 2. I looked back and realized I'd spent upwards of $80 on games in the last 2 months and didn't have anything that rare. I would have spent at least $200 by now if I bought all the carts I wanted that I have been offered, or found on ebay, and I'd have maybe 25 carts. Christ, you can get a whole system with +/- 10 games for like $30 if you know where to look, why would I want to spend that on just one game?

Ok So I need some opinions here: I just got my 7800 back. So when I asked if anyone was willing to sell few not so rare games , I got a few responses. Every time, people expected me to make an offer, instead of telling me how much they expected for their carts. Is this normal? I always thought if someone was on the up and up when selling games, they would know the value and just state it instead of playing some quasi-ebay PM bidding game. When I made an offer, EVERY TIME the person offering to sell expected more than what I offered. Maybe I'm just cheap. So I thought about it. I was thinking about collecting all the carts I wanted to play, but then I did the math and figured out that getting a cuttle cart 2 is a much better idea, since I'm not looking to display my games, just to play them. I mean really, what's the sense in spending $200 on 8 or 9 carts (at the prices I was being told to pay, that's what I'd get) if I can spend $200 on a [email protected] and be able to play 1,000+ games? So when I told one person this, he told me I'm retarded and that I was a time waster. Now I'm not sure how much time is actually wasted typing a PM that consists of four words "That's not enough money.", but I'm pretty sure that's not the real reason this person didn't like my response. So am I a jerk for asking people if they had stuff for sale, and then realizing it was more than I was willing to pay, or am I just a cheap bastard?

Personally? no. It was more of a joke than anything. I just think the disparity in pricing for games is amusing.

So I take it you like overpaying for not-so-rare games? I've got a few copies of Pac-Man I could send your way for only $20 each.

You know what's funny - A few people here who are selling games actually tried to charge me more, even though we all seem to agree that the prices on that list are slightly/ridiculously inflated. After doing the math, I realized that almost getting gouged for a few games to the tune of $20 - $30 each LOOSE that are only a rarity 3, I've decided that collecting carts is NOT the way to go, so I'm gladly going to order a Cuttle Cart 2. After all, I just want to play the games, not display them. I'm not much of a collector anyway, and the handful of games that won't/might not work with the CC2 I already have. So there.

I hear that if you enter up, up, left, down, fire, fire, right, up at the title screen of Grameshoes, you can enter the secret Dirty Sanchez level.

I disagree. I'd like to see more NES/SMS side scrolling style games rather than more rehashes of classic arcade games. One of the things that made the 7800 stand out over the 5200 and Colecovision were games like Tower Toppler and Midnight Mutants. It's really nice to see the beginnings of a homebrew scene surrounding this system, though and I'll take what I can get at this point. 840649[/snapback] So Buy a NES. Atari is all about the Arcade games. That's what I love about the 7800. Arcade Quality conversions without the flicker and annoyingly bad controllers of the SMS/NES.

I wish someone (kenfused maybe) would port a number of the better 5200 games to the 7800. The 7800 can certainly handle them, and it would just make the 7800 library more complete.