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Dunno who sold it to him but he bought it from someone based on that post. I've been willing to pay more than that for years. Just really random how that happened. I can't get a bite on it for years and he gets it almost immediately posting.

Bumping this thread. Wondering how I had a wanted post for years on Lochjaw and someone makes a post on here on Aug 31 and is able to get a CIB Lochjaw from someone on here instead of them contacting me about it.... Not understanding that for a bit....

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Even so the gameguys account has been on ebay since 98 and has 3000+ 100% feedback....so that has to account for SOMETHING lol

Well the problem is when he opened the floodgates for coverage on the collection, he opened himself to a world of people who are going to nitpick every little detail about it. If it was just kept under the radar like Richard Lecce (rareusgold) had done before, then there would not be anywhere close to this backlash. The fact of the matter is that rolenta even noted that Michael's plan all along was to go for the record and then sell the stuff as he hinted in one of his articles awhile back. I sympathize with the family member thing but this was technically "planned" (whether it was changed or not it was still the end all) and the way he has conducted himself with this just is not looking good for him. Heck, even the "description" on Game Gavel was him stating he has done this before (sold his whole collection) and he'll still be teaching, writing books, doing all this stuff, etc, it's REALLY arrogant in text and when this article was put basically everywhere, he can't expect nothing less than backlash because as nice as he is, it makes no difference. The online persona has been unleashed. Of course, this is the day and age of the "internets" but if Michael was not a valued member here this whole thing would be blasted on here just like any other website. I am not going over any more misrepresentation of "facts" and what people are paying for, etc, but as many people on Atari Age like to put out there when someone has a "lot" of games for sale and price nitpick, anyone who is in the know understands the only thing he is "selling" is the Guinness record. The games are far from worth it and that's even a stretch saying that. It's mostly common stuff, and with the amount of Good Deal Games stuff he has in duplicates he probably already has an instant "secondary" collection of 8,000+ games so if he sells this it's not that big of a deal except for the name. If this was anyone else he'd be thrown to the wolves. I am not trying to stir up negativity and I am sure by reading this people think that is my point, but this is not about lollipops and candy, it's $750K of games that is not worth even remotely close to that and it's being advertised everywhere as the "world's largest collection verified by Guinness" but it's a bait and switch when you realize that there isn't anything really of value there for what he claims it is worth! He's missing practically everything post 1985 and doesn't have any standout rare stuff at all, so yes, the collection is about the "Guinness" moniker and by virtue of that regardless of what the money is being used for, etc...

Atari Bill: "Opinions" on pricing don't matter. FACTS are what matter. In my opinion no house is worth more than 100K, no car is worth more than 5K.. This is not the thing though. Homebrews like any other collectable go for more money as FACT, so yes, as you stated, your opinion does not hold to today's market, therefore it is not relative to this conversation about the game. chart45: Believe me, it's factory sealed. I validated it myself and as I stated look at the other games listed. The games are from a private collector who literally bought games in the 80s on closeout and did nothing with them. There's also a Glib and Out of Control Factory Sealed listed. If I didn't already have these games I would go after them in a heartbeat but I can say that with full confidence everything listed on that account is authentic. Also, 1K is not a lot of money for a very very rare sealed game that you never see sealed. I still think a lot of people are not understanding that the market changed ages ago, and we're not stuck in a time warp of pricing. Just try and collect Factory Sealed NES games in this VGA World we live in and you will understand what I am referring to.

Just a little bit of info... The Wizard of Id up right now has no water damage. It's just old wrap. You know, stored for 30 years???? This stuff is from a private collection from a gentleman that passed away. He was the only owner. Purchased new. I saw the game in person the other day and I can assure you, like the Atari 2600 games up right now, they are gorgeous. I also have to comment about people "complaining" about boxed Coleco pricing. There are people paying $500+ for HOMEBREW games for Coleco, and people are bringing up Wizard of Id not being worth $1000+ even though 2 people bid that on ebay awhile ago? The bottom line is the game does not show up. Nintendo games that come up more often go for more and are less rare in the grand scheme of things.

Unfortunately with Guinness being at fault in regards to many of their records the more faith you put into Guinness as the established definitive source doesn't bode well for the reputation of their records as it has already been noted they are not exactly reliable, hence why I mentioned the Twin Galaxies comparison. If you read my posts you will see that I submitted and Guinness contacted me 4 years ago. Unfortunately you can't knock someone off a mountain if there is no way to climb said mountain. I think a lot of this stems from most people that are classic collectors aren't really aware of people out there with vast collections. Again, a simple google search will give you an idea and yes, I agree said person should try and knock someone off if they feel they should, however, I have presented the facts beforehand and Guinness who is at fault (and not Michael) basically means Michael is the king of the Guinness book, and not the true world record. You can argue that sentiment all you want but they have fees to "expedite" contact and processing but if they contacted me, and I went through the process and they disappeared and went with someone who had 6,000 less games than I did, that is their prerogative, but proclaiming him "king" of the mountain is a little much. There are many more collectors with more games but this is beating a dead horse at this point. I won't post anymore because it's not like anyone can do anything and I'm basically arguing principle of the matter about a company vs an actual record but I want to stress this: Michael originally did not believe anyone could have more games than him. This was said to me on a posting from a page when this was first discussed from when he first got the record. He stated he had complete collections of tons of systems, I want to say he said over 100. I started listing the amounts of games released for each system (big systems) and I started listing imports as well. I came up with 14,000 games just off the top of my head that I had just in 2 minutes of posting. That is when he said I should try to get the record, but the response to how one can "get" said record if Guinness does not contact anyone back basically gets thrown in my face for some reason. Simple math shows you: DS-1600 Wii-1050 NES-800 SNES-750 Genesis-700 Gamecube-700 XBOX-750 N64-250 Famicom-1000 PS1-600 PS2-600 Game Boy-450 Game Boy Color-450 Game Boy Advance-900 Dreamcast-300, etc That's just an estimation, and we're not even on all the systems, imports, etc and that alone is 11,000 and I've got CIB collections of all the classic systems minus maybe a handful of boxes for 2600 that aren't even included yet...PC Engine and Mega Drive are monsters...I'm not some random new guy by any means but that is what I feel is going on here, people think I am the unknown factor when Michael is more of the wild card here amongst the big collectors because it's not at the 15K+ level for different games.... I've been collecting for a very long time, and I'm as old school as it gets, but I think a lot of the "unknown" can be stemmed from classic collectors not keeping track of anything other than pre 1985 games and homebrews for those systems and not keeping up with so called Neo Classics and understanding what else was released for what system. Good luck to whoever can get a hold of Guinness, I definitely wish them luck!

It's easy to say "go for the record" when Guinness doesn't get back to people. If 10 people at once have 16K games claimed, you really think your "record" is in jeopardy? The bottom line is Guinness was looking for "stories" more than anything. Guinness contacted me, I went through the proper channels and they disappeared. Talking about not counting "inventory" and all that, I mean, that's a given. GameStop has the largest video game collection in the world if we are going through that. The pictures posted of games in question that have been discussed are mostly about if the games are "complete" then how come most of the cartridge based games NES on are loose? That doesn't really count in the matter, it's merely an observation, but the value declared for that collection if deemed true would make me a multimillionaire. I'm not counting my collection of systems, prototypes, handhelds, 300 arcade and pinball machines (the pinballs are probably worth more than this collection alone) and my store stock. It's not about "sour grapes" or anything, if claiming to have the world's largest so and so, you will get backlash from this, especially when it is well known and documented others have more stuff. If you don't know who has one or not sure how many people had x games, seeing an amount of games in "print" vs simple internet searching (especially if you are claiming to be a historian, and contrary to popular belief, even as recent as 2013 is considered history) would give you an idea about this. I completely understand going for a "record" in a book that you see but with a documentary coming up on the horizon of the US's largest gaming collections coming up eventually I am sure a lot of stuff will be answered eventually with that. Until then, of course you have the "Guinness" record and all the accolades that go with it, but whether or not Guinness ever gets back to anyone it might stay that way for quite some time. Again, I don't see anything wrong with going for the record that was seen in a print book that is outdated, but I do see something wrong with claiming people can just go to Guinness and get so and so record especially when I submitted this in 2010 when they contacted me (and I have the emails and went through site for it ti be done officially) and they went with someone who had way less games officially. All in all this is probably Guinness's fault, but the bottom line is yes, it is a very nice collection. It is the world's best? No. According to a book? Yes. According to a book I am the World's Best Ninja Gaiden player at 21,000 and I know for a fact that is 100% untrue and half the Ninja Gaiden players in the world on their first hour can beat that, but that doesn't mean it's super simple to just get that record broken because of all the red tape you have to go through, that is all I am saying. It makes it that much harder when they take submissions and disappear. I really would like to see bojay or videogames from Edmonton or Joe Santulli go for this record if Guinness got back to people.

Still looking for the box to Lochjaw. I'll take the whole thing if I have to but I just need the box

Bump it up

Air Raid found, still need Lochjaw box and Condor Attack (game, manual, box, or all)

Good to see other collectors in Nashville.

To clarify, I need the box for LOchjaw and the games/boxes for the other two

Looking to fill some holes in my collection, looking for the following items above, PM me if you have them with price please!

eBay doesn't notify about the IRS, that is PayPal. And it would have to be 20K in payments in one year....and 200 transactions

Need a few for each, please PM me....

These should all be sold by now, thank you for the interest, last 2 PMS sent to last interested parties

I have 3 left, sent you a PM

Need the following CIB for Fairchild Channel F: 7, 14, 18, 20, 23, 25 Need the following CIB for Emerson Arcadia 2, 4, 6, 9, 11, 12, 16, 21, 22

Please put me down for one as well