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    I'm certainly not messing with him. I have collected sealed games for many years and this particular item has a lot of red flags. The size and sloppiness of the seams along with the extensive wear under the wrap are big problems. I think ultimately it's going to be one of those items that is incapable of ever determining if it's legit or not unless it's actually opened. Indeed, while I strongly oppose VGA grading for a number of reasons, I suspect in this particular case, even they would probably send it back as incapable of conclusively determining whether it's factory sealed or not.

    Did you check the pictures from the link in post #2650? The games in those 2 pictures are ColecoVision games by Xonox where the shrink-wrap has been opened at one end and left on the rest of the box. It is the same heavy plastic with the same think and uneven seam across the middle of the end. Looks exactly the same to me, and unless the games in that other picture came from the same pawn shop and were also shrink-wrapped there then I say the look the same and like original factory seal to me. :) I appreciate your comments and to some degree your skepticism, but I think the evidence supporting a factory seal is much stronger than the mention of a pawn shop in the eBay listing. I am convinced it is legit and I am happy with the purchase. The game has not arrived yet and I am not sure how I could "prove" it is a factory seal. I would be interested in reasonable suggestions though.

     

    Troy

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    :( Great - this will suck big time if resealed. In the 80's I was collecting and stopped as it got to be way too expensive. So more a gamer and less a collector after that and until about 6 months ago when I started to collect again. It has been getting expensive lately but I was enjoying it...not enjoying it so much right now. All in all the box looks good except for the areas where the plastic is cracked. Seeing this image of other Xonox games with plastic on them, I do not see any difference in the plastic myself. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/219256-rare-colecovision-xonox-games/

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    I think the Intellivision did better simply because it wasn't Atari. Folks bought the Intellivision because they either were really into the sports titles more than arcade games, or they just liked the Inty library better.

     

    On the other hand the 5200 games were often simply conversions of the same arcade games that were already available for the 2600. Most folks weren't going to ditch their 2600 just to spend a lot of money to rebuild a collection of the same games with better graphics. If you wanted to spend that kind of money, you might as well go buy one of the 8-bit Ataris and get yourself a 'real computer'.

    For me it was not an issue of buying Intellivision because it was not Atari, and I personally did not really care about sports titles. I had an Atari 2600, then Intellivision, then ColecoVision. One did not replace the other, each was purchased for different reasons and the others were still kept. The games released later for Atari 2600 were many, but they were also not very good. Lots of companies started trying to cash in on crappy games for the Atari 2600 as they knew there were many consoles out there they were almost guaranteed (so they thought) to make money. This is the start and real reason for the crash...not E.T. People bought the Intellivision because it was the next step above the Atari 2600 in graphics and capabilities, not because is was something other than Atari. However Activision and Imagic started taking the Atari 2600 places that Atari never thought possible. Not sure if you were around during the time or if you are speculating now because you were not there, but the Atari 5200 was not widely sold as it was coming out around the same time that gamers and merchants were being burned by the volume of bad games coming out for the Atari 2600. Also the Atari 5200 really had no strong selling point other than nice graphics. The ColecoVision had awesome games that you had to buy a CV to play. The Intellivision had unique games that you could only play on the Intellivision. Most of the Atari 5200 games could be played on other consoles, so no real reason to buy other than enhance graphics or hopes of future games.

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    I would rather see a new creative idea made into a fun game and put to a cart. If not a cart, then still a new idea / fun game ROM that can be shared. I like all the hacks, arcade ports, and games we are familiar with, but for a change of pace something new to experience would be great.

     

    Troy

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    Hopefully it is someone that really wanted NIB. Because if they were just looking for CIB which not many have come up lately then they severly over paid.

    I was on the fence about the purchase, then I looked closely and talked myself out of it, then I read RelliK's post and talked myself back into it. So yes, the buyer really wanted NIB as trying to get NIB for all of ColecoVision. :) I blame RelliK really, because if I did not respect his opinion the game would still be on eBay! :-D

     

    Troy

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    The Atari 5300 games were true to the arcade versions in graphics and play ability, but the controllers sucked!

     

    unless you had a Wico stick which helped a lot.

    Plus the intellivision had 4 years of sales before the 5200 was out.

    That about sums it up. I remember the 5200 games being pretty to look at, and that was it. After trying to play them the looks faded fairly quickly. Granted there was a select group that adapted to and really liked the controllers, but I was not one of them. Combine that with the feeling that most of the games were already on the Atari 2600 and then simply re-introduced on the 5200 with better graphics and we had to decide if the cost was worth it. To most of us it was not. The Intellivision on the other hand, like the ColecoVision, offered games that the Atari 500 did not. It had its own unique appeal, and even though its controllers were not ideal they did support the Intellivision games very well.

     

    Troy

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    Hi guys.. What about a NIB EM#2? What would you guys place the value of one at? I've been after one for quite a while as you all may know.. at least a nice CIB.. I could really use some advice on that please, I'd appreciate it :)

    A few years back several were available "new" with the glue seal popped on the box. These were $144 from a reputable site, and I bought 2 at the time; one for use to replace my old used module and a second as a spare. The one I decided to use did look new with just the glue seal popped. All that being said, I think slightly north of $140 for a NIB sealed copy is reasonable but over $200 is too much I think.

     

    Troy

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    Sometimes people are not criticising they are merely suggesting or wanting to discuss ways to be even better. I would prefer people to comment without the intent to offend for the possibility of having better content. Take the bumper sticker comment that CollectorVision embraced. It could have been perceived as a complaint or criticism that not enough was being included, however it was taken as a way to make it even better. I agree with boxpressed in that we should not criticize to the point of offending someone, but opinions without insulting the individual should be fine. If not, then the developer/producer is very thin skinned. At least when people here comment it allows the the developer/producer to comment back and have a 2-way dialogue vs. commenting on a "review site" that is completely 1-sided.

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    Yeah, you would think as a community we would be always striving to improve for the benefit of all but sadly that is not a universal concept. I enjoy the various homebrew games and have respect for all involved as I have been a homebrew beta-tester for around 10 years and am a Software Engineer by trade. Comments, suggestions, and even observations are sometimes met with hostility and snarky responses that are really uncalled for. If someone offers a comment or suggestion it is puzzling to me as to why the other person does not ask "why do you think that?" or "perhaps you did not know this" and then have a valid and educational conversation to reach consensus. That would be much easier than arguing in the forum. However I too have learned that comments are not always welcome, even if to be a consideration in the future. That does not mean I will always keep quiet, but I eventually stop trying in certain situations as sometimes the other person simply does not want to hear it.

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