Perene
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I updated the Wiki for the Atari 2600, 5200 and 7800 entries. Atari 2600 and 7800 are supported (fullscreen mode + audio available) by the emulator BizHawk, that also does the same for Genesis-Mega Drive and TurboGrafx-16 (PC Engine).
Altirra (Atari 5200) is also working the way it should. However I could not configure my PS2 controller yet.
I saw that BizHawk had N64 support, the problem is that I wouldn't use it since it does not support Resident Evil 2. And I don't see the many options Project 64 has, such as loading a controller config from another game, or cheats already in the app.
P.S. BizHawk works better than Stella when it comes to displaying these games in fullscreen mode in the iPAD.
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OBS cannot stream anything without a huge delay that would kill the actual experience of playing the game. At least for Youtube. Is there a way to do this without any delay at all? If there is then the problem is also solved.
There's an app that I found today that is sucessfully streaming PC games (emulators don't work properly with it):
https://itunes.apple.com/br/app/kinoconsole-stream-pc-games/id965075144?mt=8
However, there are a few problems:
- The free version has limitations such as medium image quality.
- It keeps rotating my iPAD screen everytime I try to use it, even if I use a setting that disable this behaviour in iOS. So I am forced to use it in a way I really don't want.
- There's a dead pixel in the screen that won't ever leave. It doesn't bother that much, but you know it's always there. Another thing to fix in this app.
Other than that I believe it's working with most PC games.
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Point of reference, the Microsoft Remote Desktop doesn't use your GPU, it uses a virtual video card, hence games that need to use the GPU are still trying to use the GPU, and don't typically recognize they are running under Terminal services.
If you want to stream things to your iPad, you have to actually capture the game/application (eg with OBS) and stream it as a video feed. If you use RDP, you're not likely getting more than one frame per second (unless there is a hardware encoder,) because even if the emulator can run under Terminal services, it can't make use of the real GPU, it uses the RemoteFX virtual GPU. Without getting into a complex explanation, the emulators that likely don't work are using "overlay" mode or are using OpenGL (Windows 10/Server 2016 only.)
So check to see if the emulators are configured for DirectX/Direct3D. Also keep in mind that it might specifically have to use DirectX 9 or later.
I managed to make M.A.M.E. work by following these tips:
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You need to create a shortcut from MAME's executable, and with the right-click edit its properties. Then add a few command lines to it, and save the modifications. For example, say the shortcut locates MAME at: E:\MAME\mame64.exe - you will need to edit this part and turn into this, otherwise the emulator won't run with the app: E:\MAME\mame64.exe -video gdi -keyboardprovider dinput -keyboardprovider win32 -mouseprovider dinput
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And Nintendo DS is working, too, in fullscreen + audio. Look at this:
Since this emulator is also working with the display method OPENGL, what does that tell you?
This is from Dolphin:
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Actually, for some emulators, the problem is Windows. Remote Desktop doesn't support OpenGL. Any emulator that relies on that will therefore fail completely under Remote Desktop, regardless of whether you use your iPad or any other RDP client.
Take a look at what I said in the wiki about the Stella emulator. Here's my last update:
More updates:
As you can see, the DEVIL MAY CRY 4 demo (PC) can only run in window mode, and it has audio.But Assassins Creed (2007) won't work at all. In fullscreen it will crash, and in window mode it has no sound.I believe most PC games will have the same issues.And this is how Fusion (Genesis, Master System, Game Gear, Sega CD, 32X) looks like in the app:
Now with zoom applied:
And contrary to what I said, the Atari 2600 emulator Stella is fully supported.
Only needs a few adjustments. The same for FCEUX, the NES emulator.This is what happens when we try to run M.A.M.E.:
PlayStation (ePSXe) running:
PCSX2 (PlayStation 2):
For use with these systems:- Game Boy- Game Boy Color- Game Boy Advance- Wonderswan- Wonderswan ColorWe need the higan (v102) emulator.A few screenshots:
higan can also run Game Gear, Master System, Genesis/Mega Drive and PC Engine, the problem is that the games I tested are muted (in the PC) and none of the Genesis games I have here are being recognized. Once these problems are fixed I'll update that wiki page.There's also the fact that this emulator doesn't have a few options that Fusion has, such as the use of cheat codes.P.S. I still don't know why there are so many games that won't work at all and a few who will only partially.And here's my Stella current config:
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Running emulators directly from the iPAD is not an option because most of the alternatives that are out there don't offer all games even if they are paid, and you can store all data in your Hard Drive instead of the iPAD.I know Atari games don't waste any significant space, but the thing is I have everything already configured in my PC (including the gamepad), so the task of sending the stream from the PC to the iPAD is a piece of cake compared to all the hassle of playing these games directly on my iPAD.Maybe this is the best way to do it (run them in the iPAD instead), however you really need to see how MS Remote Desktop works in this regard... and how useful this app is. I suggest using a tablet stand (like TStand) and a bluetooth controller (like DS4), to try working something out.This is a screenshot taken from the iPAD from a Dreamcast game running in the emulator NullDC:
As you can see it fills the entire screen, except for two buttons that can't be removed, only moved to the sides.This is how a game from an emulator "SUPPORTED" works in it. I noticed no lags, so it's fullscreen and with sound.Also valid for Super NES (SNes9x only - ZSNES doesn't work), PS1, PS2, GameCube/Wii and as I said Dreamcast.When an emulator is "partially supported" it means that you won't be able at all to use fullscreen mode, so it will look exactly like that:
As you can see from the image below I zoomed the window in the iPAD:
The problem with that workaround is that you have to do it every single time you need to run these emulators. You don't just hit the button to open a game and it's all working already in fullscreeen, you need to calmly adjust the screen.This is valid for the Dreamcast emulator DEMUL (the only one that can run Resident Evil 2 as far as I know), Nintendo 64 (Project 64), NES and the Kega Fusion emulator, that can run all these systems:Master System / Genesis (Mega Drive) / Game Gear / Sega CD / 32XAs for the unsupported systems, I believe all PC games (if not all, most of them), MAME, SSF (Saturn), and the emulators for ATARI 2600 that I tried won't work at all, and I think GameBoy too.When you do attempt to stream anything the app will simply crash or freeze, and say that is unable to set display mode, Direct3D error or any other error you can imagine.At this point you may have realized that this can't be a limitation from the Microsoft Remote Desktop app or a problem with my OS (Win 10-Pro-64 bit), or even with my video card.It's in the software, in the emulator itself. It's simply not designed to adjust to the iPAD environment in the same way these few emulators are.I don't know how all of them work, so I have no idea what the problem is.P.S.Two more screenshots, from the Dolphin emulator:
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http://microsoftremotedesktop.wiki-site.com/index.php/Microsoft_Remote_Desktop
Guys,
when I try to stream whatever is happening from my PC to the iPad I can't do it with a few systems, such as Atari emulators... is there a way to fix this?
I mean, some emulator that works like ePSXe, pcsx2, dolphin, snes9x?
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Splashtop, as far as I can tell, is not free, you have to pay for it.
I would love to test the performance of all these emulators and even PC games using Splashtop, however I can't pay for something I have no idea how it would look like in advance, since I checked similar M$ Remote Desktop apps (all free, however) and was appalled by their inability to do the same basic stuff.
That made me believe that only Microsoft could create an app that is at least decent. And it's not just if it works, it's about other minor details that can ruin or improve the experience of streaming.
You may also think that Splashtop is a substitute for M$ Remote Desktop without having compared the two or being aware of the flaws of the former when it comes to streaming these games perfectly. Not just the lag, but a few options such as using the iPAD's keyboard to issue commands, the mouse (also in the iPAD), resolution configured for the app, etc.
If you do own this app please try to convey a more detailed explanation how the whole thing works for the emulators and PC games if we try to stream... from the PC to the Apple device.
I am not against buying anything, I have purchased apps from Apple Store before. It's just that I only did that when there were no free alternatives worth mentioning.
And then there's this app:
https://itunes.apple.com/br/app/kinoconsole-stream-pc-games/id965075144?mt=8
Available in both free and paid versions, but it doesn't work as it should, and I spotted its flaws in the free version. If I only saw them after paying it wouldn't be possible to get a refund (you all know how Apple is).
P.S. Looking at that video, it sounds good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvYjl9NdeM
However that doesn't tell me how many PC games are running properly, if we can use a joystick plugged into the PC (DS4, bluetooth), how emulators work with it...
There is no lag that I know of, for the supported systems I wrote in that Wiki.
But I haven't extensively tested this for all systems.
If it's just me looking into it, then we can't be sure of anything, can we?
Look what I wrote just now for that M.A.M.E. thread: