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Wow.  Did't jump on the thread again for 24 hours ... and had to put on my slippers, set my alarm clock and make a full pot of coffee to catch up.

 

13 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

I feel bad for him and Brandon Harris. They seem like genuine enthusiast and aren't assholes like the Heir Werners.

 

 

Yeh.  I smash JP fairly hard at times, on a jovial note mind you.  Definately a harmless fanboy that deserves more than a shoebox that runs off a 12 volt battery.

 

12 hours ago, Osgeld said:

Whats up with that rats nest of bodge and debug wires hanging out its ass 

 

Well, that would be because of who and where they've produced this prototype ...

 

 

11 hours ago, CommodoreCEO said:

How Chesnais can justify paying himself just under €1m despite the company losing millions over the course of a financial year genuinely astounds me. 

 

 

.. and that at this years Atari Annual Meeting of Shareholders, just held on 30th Sept,  it was pretty much a unanimous decision to do so! 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Inky said:

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Curt Vendel said:

The news that Rob Wyatt hasn't been paid for 6 months comes personally as no surprise whatsoever.   As many of you who know me personally remember, I ran Legacy Engineering, well I was hired by Fred Chesnais to develop the Gene Simmons Axe Controller for guitar hero.  I spent 6 months and put over $90k out of my own pocket to develop the controller and have several golden sample prototypes made.   I was given a song and dance about getting royalties and such... well in June of 2008 I had to be admitted to the hospital for emergency open heart surgery.   I suffered a severe heart infection and had to go in for emergency heart surgery.  While I'm in the hospital, Freddy calls me and desperately asks if I could get the prototypes out to him, he needs to get them to Gene Simmons immediately as Gene is going to put them on his show and announce them.  So I had someone get them packed and shipped to Freddy, well he took them, they never went to Gene, they went right to Freddy's friend up in Canada at Beat Street, they reverse engineered the samples (since they weren't protected yet and everything was on development boards inside) and had cheap knock offs made.   He told me that they couldn't get on the show in time, after several weeks of recovering I finally called to get the status on the project, he said it was canceled which was a lie.   He ended up bankrupting my consultancy and I was out all of my investment, my prototypes and royalties...  sounds like he basically has done the exact same thing to Rob Wyatt.   Freddy is a serial scumbag.

 

BTW, notice how while they dangled all of the eye candy, they put in a small disclaimer --- the first units won't have any OS... that's because there isn't one, Atari also quietly announced that they have dropped development of their own custom linux distro.   There won't be an OS, they'll give you your box and you're on your own.   You of course could've just bought any of the Ryzen dev boards that are currently out there now and gotten what Atari is pushing for $300...  

 

 

Damn.  Sorry to hear Curt ... and thanks for the disgracefull story.  What a  f#cking douche!  Hope that ticker is still going strong. 

 

9 hours ago, The Strangest said:

My 40 year old light sixer turns on too.

 

Likewise my Vader ...

 

9 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:

yeah but does it have a LED?????

 

.. and yes sir, it does ..... and it runs off mains! 

 

 

6 hours ago, Shaggy the Atarian said:

DANG IT THOMAS, JUST READ THE BLOG POST. IT'S ACCURATE AND ALL IS WELL!!!

 

NOW, WHO WANTS TO TELL ME ABOUT THEIR BEST ATARI MEMORY? E.T. WAS DOPE, AMIRITE?

 

Jesus Shaggy, please don't set-off Brandon and John again you bastard! 

 

 

6 hours ago, Woulfe said:

Stefan is easy to impress, a freaking light comes on " PROGRESS ! "

 

P. S. I can make a light go on with a potato... Does that make a potato a game machine ?

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Clint Thompson said:

56 minutes ago, PlaysWithWolves said:

Apparently this recently launched:

 

Game Taco lets you play Atari games to win cash and prizes.  $1 entry; versus other players like a poker tournament.

 

Taco.

Atari.

Bet money.

 

I don't even know what's real anymore.

 

The moment when you realize a thread has broken reality... 

 

Put on your safety glasses and prepare for Mr Werner's head to explode when someone posts that link on reddit!

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On 10/6/2019 at 10:18 PM, frankodragon said:

Mr. Werner is, in my opinion, a paranoid, little troll.  Especially when he thinks he has the authority to post sarcastic responses himself. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Stoked to find these 2 PAL babies in the wild.  Fathom more than Congo Bongo.  Never seen them down here.

 

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The Atari Dude youtube clip reminded me of a legendary videotape cover ...

 

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15 minutes ago, Agillig said:

I've been a cop almost 18 years, and I can vouch for this.  I'd like to think that having people lie to my face constantly on a daily basis has tuned my b.s. meter pretty well. 

 

Once I catch someone in their first lie, I have a hard time buying the rest of the story.  Atari told way too many whoppers early on to be credible.   Showing pictures faking people playing the system and later backtracking and saying it was "For illustrative purposes" is about as credible as someone saying "These aren't my pants" when you find 20 grams of crack in their pocket. 

 

Hah. Yeh.  As you well know Ag, our BS meters are pretty accurate if we can see the person of interests face, even better the whole body, whilst they're talking bollocks.  In relation to the Ataco saga, almost all of the data and talky-talky is coming to us via text, hence the aforementioned "meters" don't work anywhere near as well.

 

Anyways .....

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9 hours ago, JaqenHghar said:

 

Interesting reads if you are so inclined:

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-risky-is-it-really/201007/why-changing-somebody-s-mind-or-yours-is-hard-do

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/this-article-wont-change-your-mind/519093/

 

The mechanisms of stubbornness behind everything from VCS to politics.

 

 

Thanks for the links.  The whole behavioral side in this debacle, has me genuinely interested.  Being in law enforcement for over 20 years, definitely gives you insight into the human psyche and eventually you become somewhat of a backyard behaviorist persay.  I'm au fait enough with the subject to understand the general reasoning of the pigeons behaviors with Ataco & the Shoebox, as do a lot of others here, as can be seen on the recent replies to my query to Tidus.

Although I want to hear his opinion, the query was obviously going to get others to chime in.  Good to hear other opinions, especially from people who know a hell of a lot more than me.

It was also meant to show the numpties, like Werner and associates, that we are a lot more open here and think a lot more deeper than their reddit cultist shit show ... and not a bunch of whinging trolls.

 

4 hours ago, digdugnate said:

4 hours ago, digdugnate said:

5 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

Awww, I was hoping for Wookiee Cookies.

are they a little.... Chewie?

 

 

 

😉

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On 10/1/2019 at 4:40 AM, Tidus79001 said:

On 9/30/2019 at 9:13 PM, Tidus79001 said:

Personally I am excited about this new console and looking forward to receiving mine.

 

On 9/30/2019 at 9:50 PM, racerx said:

I'm actually going to put the snark away for a moment and genuinely ask, "Why?"

- Full version of Windows 10 x86/x64 or Linux x86/x64 distro  vs a custom ARM based OS

- Not an ARM CPU like a Raspberry Pi that has limited processing power

- AMD graphics as vs limited graphical capabilities of an Arm based SoC

 

On 9/30/2019 at 9:54 PM, Tidus79001 said:

Even if it does fail I will be ok with that as I my other intended use for the console will be booting into Windows or Linux and using those OS'es to run any video game emulator I want.  Having a system that interfaces easily with my TV and those 2 Atari VCS controllers (classics and modern) is going to make playing old school games a joy.  Best to have another usage scenario for the console and I do certainly have mine and it will fit the bill well.

For me this is the perfect retro gaming emulation device and is going to be a nice and flexible solution for playing all those old games on my TV

 

Tidus, if I may make an observation and ask some questions?  Just honestly shooting the shit, as I'm genuinely curious to hear from certain backers perspectives (such as your own).   I'm obviously covering ground that has been flogged to death on our thread, but it's needed to answer my simple queries.

 

Your stating you want the VCS for retro gaming and to be more powerfull that a Pi.  Great.  Do you own a laptop?  If not, then my answer won't be as relevant as what I'm enquiring, however still could be.  If you do, why don't you just HDMI plug your lappy into your TV, set it up with any OS you like, then set-up all your retro emulators to your hearts content.  By a USB to DB9 adapater (as an adapter example.  Not expensive) and use original controllers for an original feel.  Or, buy a good quality retro styled bluetooth gamepad, like the awesome 8bitdo N30 or F30 pro's.  More powerfull and a completely open ended (sandbox) set-up, without spending $300 on the VCS.

If you don't have a laptop, again you can get some kickass little lappys for $300 and under, which again would be better than what Atari SA are stating, at this time.  Oh, and upgradeable.

I could maybe understand getting the "unconsole", if it was a console competing with the other big boys and had exclusives, including the other niceties and niches of the big consoles, but for a use to play retro games is just so confusing.  Did you expect more from the Atacobox VCS, but have now resigned to the fact that it's not, so you'll just use it for retro fillanderings?

 

With that in mind, surely you can understand why this thread is 850+ pages.  If the VCS was real (after 2 years), running , showing huge potential, with exclusives and something different to other systems or at least on par or more ... this thread may still be 850+ pages, likely praising Freddy and the teams efforts, definately throwing around innocent memes and jabs at others and ourselves, people getting pulled into line (Dah.  It is the interwebs ) definately throwing up debate, indepth chat on the company itself and its finances .. yadda yadda.  What's your answer on why so many pigeons backers are defending Atari SA so vehemently, after all this time?

 

Cheers.

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5 hours ago, racerx said:

The irony of Atari's ban policy: the biggest offenders of the "hate speech, abuse, and personal attacks" excuse are usually Atari's biggest cheerleaders.

 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

That would totally fit in a shoe box!

 

  You got that in Beefy before another 20 troops were going to do, or at least think, the same.  Gold. 

 

 

10 hours ago, OverMuch said:

Jesus Christ. 😂

 

 

 

5 hours ago, CPUWIZ said:

 

No, people will find something cool in it, maybe it can be hacked to shit and you can use it for something else.  Like you can do with many other hardware products.

 

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50 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:

Because PlayStation and Xbox have cultivated a healthy ecosystem of content over the past two decades. 
 

Atari wants to ride their coattails and pretend there done the work, and that they somehow deserve attention because they bought the name of a company that stopped making games in 1996. 
 

It's good that only a few people are falling for it. 

 

I'm sorry, but I can't help but say what has previously been said .... over and over and over and over again.  I'm still compelled to randomly say ... "It's so f#cking sad!!"

I mean, about an hour ago (@work), this 47 year old briefly acted like a 12 year old as I processed my ebay purchase of 9 mint 2600 carts for my playing pleasure, adding to my 210+ unique cart collection, that I still play and use to compete in the HSC.  Old-era Atari 40- year old games for a 40+ year old system for a 40+ year old man with a huge smile on his 40 inch fat head.  That's what Atari means to most of us AND why this thread is 800+ pages long.

And to prove my point.  I dare any of the troops NOT to either smile, chuckle, have a fond memory or otherwise when viewing whats below!

 

 

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10 hours ago, MrBeefy said:

At least he is showing actual interest in Atari and Atari related stuff. Generally the supporters only care to shill and complain that only 4 of them don't have concerns. Lucas C evidently is upset that someone is acting like him on reddit.

 

Brandon at least isn't like them. I hope him and John get something. He does need to work on his English though.

 

Touché 👍

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Damn it.  Been living at work.  Only got that single game in.  Some gr8 scores and rollages people. 👌

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3 hours ago, Agillig said:

 

 

Sound like Cookie Monster much ....

 

 

I'll have to give it to ole' Brandon though.  Never short of blind naive bombdiggety enthusiasm.

 

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On 9/27/2019 at 1:47 AM, Stephen said:

Awful lot of whining about other people's joystick size if you ask me.  Was always told it didn't matter 🤣

 

Mine's more like a trackball.  🙂

 

Oops.  Thought I was in the taco thread.  Disregard.   Now ..... ads you say?

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4 hours ago, Captain_Combat said:

Playing e.t. On the dark night console on the kiosk. Opened night stalker with all the contents in the box. Tried playing but the cartridge doesn’t seat/fit properly in the dark night. Maybe I’ll have to try a 2600 junior?

 

Oh and e.t. was not the worse game Howard your off the hook.

 

 

 

My Telegames PAL Night Stalker was also a pain to put into my Vader as well, from memory.  Maybe a slightly thicker cart tongue, or more likely the tongue edge not tappered enough to push open the cart slot dust protector.  I just turned the Vader upside down, which usually has the dust protector open up, because of wear to the dust mechanism after all these years.  A bit of a gentle wriggle and it went in.  FYI.  Same fix for carts with broken dust protector activation legs.

 

#EDIT#  Actually.  I'm wrong.  I remember the carts dust protector activation legs were the exact same length as the cart tongue.  The tongue should be recessed back further (like in other carts), to allow the activation legs to open the dust protector BEFORE the tongue enters the cart slot.  That's why I turned the Vader upside down, eliminating the use of the activation legs.

 

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7 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

I assume that was posted today? Because it's the same text copypasta'ed from June 11th, which was 109 days ago. They said it was "headed into production very soon" at that time. Is it safe to assume that another 15 weeks (or more) might go by before production actually starts? They still haven't shown the thing in action. 

 

Yup.  The same.  Noticed the language straight away.. which is sad in itself.

 

7 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

Someone pointed out to me a video of a superfan, naked from the waist up except for an Atari baseball cap, professing his belief in The VCS. That's great! But his faith comes with the proviso that he'll boycott the company and burn all of his 40 years worth of Atari stuff if they don't deliver by April 2020. 

 

After Joe posted the JP link, I insinuated I couldn't bare to watch him again.  Well ... I was curious and ..... I closed it within 5 seconds after seeing Phelan topless with that bloody hat and continued to wash my eyes out with soap.  Damn you Joe! 🖕  Hence, I didn't realize he made those comments.  Burn his shit? 🤔  Now that's one extreme to the next. 🙄

 

 

6 hours ago, TACODON said:

Getting that ban hammer soon I bet...

 

"Indigogo are donations.  They have no obligation to make anything" ??  Just wow.  What are these unconsole-that-really-is-a-console-if-it-does-exist-at-all disciples injecting?   Too support and back up Atari SA with mind-boggling statements like this is f#cking ludicrous.

 

Pigeon: "Here ya go Freddy boy.  Have $300 spondoolies of my hard earned cash that I can't really afford because I still live in my mom's basement eating those blasphemous pita tacos that Spriggy makes.  Ahhhh noooo.  I don't want anything for it mate  ..... although you promised to have them done and delivered by summer.  Just keep the cash.  I'll just have to resort to cardboard tacos for a while.   Actually ... I might go and check out Mr Pants Last Gameboard kickstarter.  Sounds gr8"

 

 

 

As for Biff.  Looks like he's talking to himself again.  Sock Puppet to Sock Muppet.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

At the close of every financial year, the Group assesses the future economic benefits it will receive from that asset by using the principles set out in IAS 36—Impairment of Assets. These assets are valued according to a minimum budget. If a deviation from this budget is identified, and depending on how significant this deviation is, the amortization plan is accelerated or the asset is impaired in full.

 

Are they referencing the Ashoebox?   Are they hinting on making the box a complete impaired asset in the near future?

 

 

 

I was curious to see if they listed the Feargal Mac payout, as they listed the settlement for the long running Raynal litigation.  But alas.

 

2 hours ago, ColecoJoe said:

You must have forgotten about this classic video from John

 

https://youtu.be/5V-q8v809Jg

 

I can't sit through them Joe, hence would have missed many action packed moments and wise John-isms! 🙄😋

 

 

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.. and you can quote forever ......

 

(Ataco SA) Due to the cancellation of the INL revenue and the impairment of the receivables related to the new agreement, the operating income as of March 31, 2019 shows a €968k loss compared to a €771k profit as of March 31, 2018. Net financial income amounts to +€139k compared to +€16,936k in the previous financial year, which had seen reversals of provisions on securities and receivables related to dormant subsidiaries, which were liquidated. The current profit before tax amounts to -€830k compared to +€17,707k the previous financial year. Net extraordinary income amounts to -€66k compared to -€16,270k the previous financial year, which had recorded as expenses the gross value of the shares of dormant subsidiaries, which were liquidated. Net income before tax amounts to -€895k compared to +€1,437k the previous financial year. Due to the use of its tax loss carry-forwards, the corporate income tax is zero, as in the previous financial year. As a result, net income after tax amounts to -€895k compared to +€1,437k the previous financial year.

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Again, for the troops following the financials and other internal company goings-on at Ataco ... the previously mentioned annual General Meeting of Shareholders is in 2 days.

Here are the associated documents for the meeting ... CLICKITY-CLICK .   Some interesting reading on the 70 page Shareholder Information Document.  

 

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11 hours ago, Flojomojo said:

Some of the early orders were duplicates, but I highly doubt "Atari" bid up its own crowdfunder, considering IGG keeps a significant chunk of the take. Though that would be entertaining, and one explanation for their slow walk. 
 

Some of the backers are just living in retroland, a magical nostalgic place where all your childhood favorites come back and life is simple again. 
 

 

As for Walmart and GameStop, that was done to appear more legitimate. It doesn't actually make them more legit. The stores don't care if the thing ships or not, and the idea that Walmart would somehow punish non-delivery is  just bizarre. 
 

That Supporters group is completely unhinged and their "leader" and moderator has some scary issues. 
 

The biggest troll of all is "Atari."

 

Wow.  That's the first time John-boy has started to inject words of doubt into his Church of Atari sermons.  Let's see if Father Brandon follows suit.

 

 

"Let's see if Father Brandon follows suit."

 

 

Nope.  Impervious to doubt.🙄  And Jessie becoming delirious after passively inhaling the remnants of what the other two are smoking!

 

 

Dinner last night.  My puerco pibil, pickled red onion and cilantro pita tacos.  Yes .. Yes ... I know.  I didn't use tortillas.  Sue me. 🖕 😜

 

 

 

 

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Woo Hoo!.  I have been looking for a reasonably priced PAL Beamrider for a few years.   Never sighted one in the wild down here and the prices of these on ebay are just stupid!

Payed $15aus ($10usd) for this HES version.

 

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On 9/25/2019 at 7:16 PM, nads said:

Thanks Spriggy!

 

This game to be honest isn't that tough to Max Out, however it does practice.

 

The game levels are not random which is great for getting through the tough Stages.

 

The other thing to understand that the Majority of the Game-play involves playing through Stages 13 to 20 Over and over again.

 

Stages  1 - 12 you will only play ONCE. The best way to practice is to utilize the GAME SELECT function

 

Game 1 : Starts at Stage 1

Game 2 : Starts at Stage 5

Game 3 : Starts at Stage 9

Game 4 : Starts at Stage 13

Game 5 : Random Stages are Set

 

Once you can complete 1 -12 fairly well, Start practicing 13 - 20 as 90% of the game is played here.

 

Ive attached an Older run to show what I mean about the Stages

 

 

Its a Great game ! I would love to see all competitors earn the Patch in this round!

 

Good Luck!

 

 

I've never used the game select on this title.  I'm usually a stickler for reading entire manuals, but must have not on this one or purely forgot.

Thanks for the tip Nads 👍