Hwlngmad
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If they can get this at $150 or under, I don't think it will make them a laughing stock, especially if all of its games are $10 or less. However, if the console is $175+ and games go from $20 or so, you would be more right than wrong then. Still, hopefully they can deliver a cool system that would be good for the whole family. I am all about that, especially having an 8 year old running around the house.
Repeating what I've said on FB.....Sounds good and all, but the price point is the key. If they try to get $150-200 for this, immediate laughing stock. Consoles are largely dead.
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I could definitely afford the console, but it's still quite a lot of money to just lose if it doesn't get released.
"You pays your money, you takes your pick" - Aldous Huxley
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The Jag is pretty slick, but the CD player kills the look by sure.
Jaguar IMHO looks great until the CD player (which is needed for many homebrews obviously) is attached...
it really does look like a toilet
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That is one of the main issues with this product. At the price point they are shooting for, how many people can they really expected are going to choose this over a new Xbox and/or PlayStation product. Sure, it could happen, but I really don't see this product doing much of anything that something else can't do as good if not better.
IF it come out in 2 years or so, then they could not sell it for 404/406/414 bucks (379 + shipping)...
Compare that to XBox Two and Playstation 5 that time then
Maybe they could try at 150 bucks including both controllers...
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I agree. I like the Atari Jaguar's look to, but the Neptune definitely had style and nothing so openly exposed like the Jag did.
True, & the Neptune's aesthetics have aged well IMHO as well.
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It has some good ones, though ... and it can play all the Sega Genesis/Megadrive games, too. I always wanted a Sega Neptune (Genesis + Mars32X) system.
Yep, that was my point. You have Genesis/Mega Drive games on there plus a small compilation of 32x games (5-10). Make it to where it can play cartridges for both and I think that would be a nice little product. Also, I agree having just a 32x system by itself would not fly what-so-ever. However, something like a Neptune could be a hot ticket item IMO.
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An 32x Genesis (which is what Sega should have built) would be an interesting option. It could be pre-loaded with Genesis and 32x games. That along with SD card support, I think that would be a winner. The others, I am afraid, only hard-core gamers (and historians) know about.
We could really use a Super A'Can, Nuon, Pippen, a functional Neptune, and who knows what else.
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A la 'Billy Madison'
You make all of us dumber just by proximity.
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Agreed. This and an updated FB would be nice. However, looks like a new Intellivision is the project they are pursuing in lieu of any others.
And I want a digital version of Intellivision Lives for 3DS, updated and fixed with more games. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
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Me too, but reading between the lines a Intellivision FB2 has pretty much had the kibosh put on it with Intellivision going solo.
I, for one, would love to see both a new Intellivision and Intellivision Flashback 2 while we wait.
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Yes, you are probably right. Shoot, if the Xbox 'Duke' controller can redone and touched up a bit to make it better than it was before, I am sure an updated 5200 controller could be done. However, I am afraid there is not too much demand for the 5200 in general. Still, an updated controller would be nice, that's for sure.
I actually think the 5200 controller could be done really well nowadays.
The analog sticks on all modern controllers work great. Use that in place of the 2 pots that don't center...arrrr
Try to make it compatible with the original controller. So let it be written.......
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I'll go with (in no particular order) the Magnavox Odyssey, APF TV Fun - Model 401, Radio Shack Electronic TV Scoreboard (6 game version), and original Tele-Games Pong.
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A great collection for sure, but I am not sold on it being $5800. Seems like a bit too much chronic has been smoked.
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While I agree that having a cartridge slot would be very nice, so much is done digitally nowadays that having one really is a luxury. I think Intellivision's business model for this console is pretty good (IMO) and I think it could be a minor success if they do things right.
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To get the Atari VCS Tribute Edition All In or wait for the next Xbox console in 2020 for (probably more or less) the same price
Tough call....All prices are now full. The Early Birds are dead. There were still plenty this morning.
A new (old) hotness has arrived (as predicted):
Edited for smaller pix.
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Well, something is better than nothing
To clarify my earlier statement, I just meant the available Atari 5200 games that Atari has rights to still.
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I couldn't remember if the AFC V3 has 5200 games or not. Hopefully they will tweak and improve gameplay as that would be a pretty nifty little collection to have handy as the 5200 is not a bad console, but those controllers just kill it (and not in a good sense).
Atari Flashback Classics Vol. 3 features about all the 5200 games available. I already have it and can't say that they play that great. I'm hoping there are some tweaks before the official release date.
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A 5200 FB would be cool, but considering no one would touch those controllers with a 20 foot pole, it will never happen. It doesn't hurt to dream though and I would imagine that some kind of 5200 compilation could be possible.
Made this mock box art many moons ago. (Nov 3 2006)
I said it before and I'll say it again: ATARI! Please make this dream unit come true!
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I can go with defunct. That pretty much nails it IMO.
Shall we just agree on the term defunct rather than bankrupt? Bankruptcy is legal and financial nomenclature that doesn't really have bearing on a company's actual capabilities. Plenty of companies declare bankruptcy and continue operations. Others cease operations and never file for financial distress protections. In any case, Atari was defunct before Hasbro bought the brand and rights to IP.
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Again, Atari after 1996 was done. If they didn't go full on 'legal' bankrupt is beyond the point.
Please recall my original statement: "Is Sega still the same as (presumably most) grew up with as a console manufacturer, no. However, Sega decided to quit the console business and become a 3rd party gaming studio, so it has continued on as a company without totally being bankrupt and out of the gaming business like 3DO, Atari, etc. So, in that regard Sega is still Sega, but just not manufacturing consoles anymore. Sound fair?"
My point was that Sega decided to quit the console business and become a 3rd party developer and therefore different than others like 3DO, Atari, and Coleco that went bust and are/were out of the gaming business. Sorry, but I believe the viewpoint is valid even if Atari did not go full on, nine alarm bankrupt. For all intents and purposes, they did.
But, I do acknowledge and accept that Atari (1972-1996) did not go full on legal bankrupt as you have pointed out. I accept that. However, there is no denying they were out of the video game business, broke as a joke, and picked off of the scrap heap to be reborn into a new entity. Therefore, lets see if Atari SA can actually deliver on the Atari VCS, which I (personally) highly doubt, but I could be (happily) proven wrong.
I'm willing to argue semantics on this; what our words mean is important. Bankruptcy has a specific meaning. It's a legal way to discharge a person's debts when there's no way to pay them off. Atari Corp was in bad shape, but they weren't in bad enough shape to be forced into bankruptcy. The fact they left the market also does not equate bankruptcy; if it did we could say every business which closed in bad times went bankrupt, which would be an insult to the business which were able to pay their debts before closing.
And, again, that's separate from a certain French company which bought a bunch of companies without any apparent strategy, & was forced into bankruptcy. -
Again, they "left the market" (equal to getting out of the gaming business). Now, we can do the semantics game regarding bankruptcy. However, "running out of money" equals broke/bankrupt in my and a lot of other peoples mind. If they didn't file (legal) bankruptcy, good for them. However, the original Atari that existed from 1972 to 1996 went the way of the dodo and eventually was picked off of the scrap heap. Same (more or less) for Coleco as well. If you don't see it my way, totally fine. But please, let's not have excessive drinking of Atari SA Kool-Aid. We can all deal without that.
No, I'm saying they left the market before running out of money; you left out the key word.
Leaving the market is not same as going bankrupt. Atari Corp did not file for chapter 11 or chapter 7, nor were they forced to by their creditors. They were in trouble, but they found a way out. I'm sure their investors were disappointed when they merged with JTS; I'm sure their employees were saddened to loose a job they'd given their life to, but merging gave their investors some return & their employees got a final check. In bankruptcy those wouldn'tve been guaranteed.
I respect the way Atari Corp left the market. I hate that it happened, but it was better than bankruptcy.
I don't want to invest in the new Atari, but I cannot sit by & let a false claim besmirch the old company; they did not go bankrupt.
(Hopefully this isn't too strongly worded. I know the emphasis was on an investor's view; what they'd think of the company. I just find bankruptcy a really bad end for a company; worse than simply shutting down. It irritates me for someone to say Atari went bankrupt when they didn't until the Infogrames took on the name. Peace to you.
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So, you are saying that Atari "left the market" (which equals out of the gaming business) and "they completely ran out of money" (i.e. bankrupt). Sorry, but you proved my point instead of countering it.
"Sega decided to quit the console business and become a 3rd party gaming studio, so it has continued on as a company without totally being bankrupt and out of the gaming business like 3DO, Atari, etc."
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Is Sega still the same as (presumably most) grew up with as a console manufacturer, no. However, Sega decided to quit the console business and become a 3rd party gaming studio, so it has continued on as a company without totally being bankrupt and out of the gaming business like 3DO, Atari, etc. So, in that regard Sega is still Sega, but just not manufacturing consoles anymore. Sound fair?
I could see why many would say the Jag was the end. How does this compare to SEGA? Is SEGA really SEGA still?
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Intellivision Entertainment launching a NEW Intellivision console
in Intellivision / Aquarius
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So, we are talking 87 to 107 games (new and old), plus two wireless controllers with touch screens, USB, SD card support and a future cartridge port adapter (not counting games as those are separate IMO)? If yes, I would say $150 or so. Any higher than $175 and you get near (Black Friday) Xbox One and PS4 prices. In the end, I say somewhere between $125 to $175 max. Sound about right?