Marco(2)

NO We're going off topic again! We weren't discussing every game ever sold by Quelle, we were trying to get a complete list together of this one specific game type. And the one shown above clearly does not belong in that category, anyone can see that! So, back to the main question: do we have a complete listing here or are we still missing some titles? And let's stick to the AtariAge rules: no vague rumors ("I'm pretty sure I've seen". "I'm on eBay 24/7 and I've never come across" or "I once had this and that but now it's gone"), only hard evidence counts! C'mon, we must be able to get that list! Cheers, Marco

I'm not sure if you're serious in your claims, or just kidding, so I'll probably just leave it after this post. What you say implies that you put a PAL Bumper Bash in Germany on the same level as the likes of Cubicolor, Miss Piggy's Wedding or even Eli's Ladder. I know it's hard to do international comparisons, but that does sound a bit odd, don't you think? Anyhow, if it turns out you got an NTSC Bumper Bash, good for you! You got it at a bargain price, so be sure to treasure it. The labels on this game (and Mangia') tend to disappear quite easily (if you whipe it hard, the ink just comes right off). Cheers, Marco

I guess we just don't know what will happen. I don't think the ancient Egyptians thought they would be remembered by most of us by some insignificant ruler - Tutanchamon - in stead of one of their big pharaohs, Ramses II. For the time being, most people will probably see both as classic systems. To me however, the Atari 2600 will always be from a different league, call it 'more classic' if you will, simply because it was the first system to make it all happen. Cheers, Marco

Woho! Nordhorn is only like 20 mins or so away! Do come over guys! Cheers, Marco

Oh yeah?! What about this then: Hah, you cheated! Cheers, Marco

I'm pretty sure that Bumper Bash was released in Germany. I've bought two lots of games from German sellers that contained Bumper Bash in the past couple of years. So it's defenitely out there, together with Mangia'. Australian carts are PAL too, btw. The only place where you're likely to find an NTSC Bumper Bash is Canada, it's hardly ever found in the US. Cheers, Marco

The new house will be in Hengelo, only 150 km or so from Oldenburg! So you're more than welcome to come visit me some time Cheers, Marco PS: you're only 260 km away from my current town also, but most of my collection now resides in boxes in my basement, not very interesting to watch...

I don't think I can follow your reasoning. Trust me, as with all Spectravision/-video games, the PAL version is much easier to find. Also, I'm pretty sure that the seller had a PAL Bumper Bash in his collection. Heh, I couldn't care less. Just think of this: why would a game of '9' rarity only fetch $70? Maybe it's because it was a German auction, maybe it's because eBay is just slow this season, but I bet it's because they aren't really '9' rarities. Cheers, Marco

Bah! That does not belong in that list... Cheers, Marco

Hi all, I listed a big lot of a cool Atari 2600 pirate. It looks Taiwanese, but the lot came from Brazil and should therefore be playable on an NTSC tv. You can bid on the lot, but also on individual games. Check out this link if you're interested. Cheers, Marco

Hi all, I listed a big lot of a cool Atari 2600 pirate. It looks Taiwanese, but the lot came from Brazil and should therefore be playable on an NTSC tv. Check out this link if you're interested. Cheers, Marco

I'll let you know when it's visitable - consider yourselves all invited Cheers, Marco

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A bit off topic, but... I think Glib should be a 7 at the most, as there's one copy of this game on ebay almost every week. PAL Bumper Bash should also be no more than a 7, and even the NTSC version is not as rare as we initially thought, with more and more Canadian finds of this game. Cheers, Marco

That is either a Suntek or Rainbowvision game. If it is in NTSC format, that is an extraordinary find, as these games were supposedly only released in PAL format! Cheers, Marco

Xonox or Bomb Double Pack? Cheers, Marco

That is an excellent point for which you could call NES a classic system today. But I think that in time each and every system from the console era (1975-2025) will be just swept together and remembered as a whole. By that time, I think the one that started it will be remembered over the one that revived it. By that time too, NES will have lost its classic status. I'd like to raise one other point that I have noticed in this regard. Most Americans felt a strong videogame crash around '83. That was hardly the case in the rest of the world, where systems died much more gradually. It was nothing like "The 2600 killed it, and now NES comes to the rescue". It was much more blended and slowly changing. So, calling the NES a classic in 100 years may be a typical American (and Japanese) thing... Cheers, Marco

Heh, well, it's an old house which needs lots of work, but I hope that in a couple of months I will finally have my own dedicated videogame room - with room for my Atari collection and some arcade cabinets Cheers, Marco

Tell us, you mean fish! Cheers, Marco

I asked Alex and Albert to remove my moderator status. Moderating wasn't a real big task or anything, but I did take it seriously. Then, I found myself thinking about things happening on this board even when I wasn't browsing. As I posted in one of the threads, I didn't like the tone of some recent threads. I somehow started to feel too involved and felt it would be good to take it slow for some time (also because I just bought a house which needs my time and attention) and just enjoy the hobby again the way I used to. Cheers, Marco

Dieter, I have some ads from Quelle, but they only show official release games - very strange! Can you show us some URLs, Dieter, so we can check out the goods? Cheers, Marco

I always say I collect manufacturer variations, not label variations. I think most (American) collectors would agree that Sears and Froggo games should be counted as unique carts. In my book, that means that also games by 'distributors' like Quelle and Marpes, that are like European versions of Sears, should be counted as unique. Same with Brazilian 'producers' like Fotomania, Atarimania etc. There's simply no way of distinguishing, so I just count them all. As long as it has a different manufacturer or distributor (or is missing any indication of its maker) it should be counted as another cool piece of Atari 2600 history. That's as far as I go, I never understood the wish to go even one step further and also collect label variations. But that's just me :wink: Cheers, Marco

Thanks for the kick-off, ren.dhark! I have added some more titles that I have in my collection: Alices Abenteur 732.273.8 Angriff der Luftflotten 495.4632 Aufruhr im Zoo 719.694.2 Bermuda 322.913.5 Billiard 626.6100 Bobby geht nach Hause 476.7745 Der flinke Architekt 343.3737 Der Hungrige Panda 731.662.3 Der Vielfraß 176.5437 Die Ente und der Wolf 688.3839 Der moderne Ritter 700.2231 Die Hungrigen Frösche 043.151.0 Die Ratte und die Karotten 687.4630 Die Springteufel 176.6542 Die Unterwasser Bestien 463.7344 Dschungel Boy 262.8949 Eddy Langfinger, der Museumsdieb 732.0526 Eishockey-Fieber 873.790.0 Fuchs und SchweinchenSchlau 806.1749 Gefährlichte Mäusejagd 719.551.4 Gefecht im All 147.443.6 Hili Ball 689.3028 Im Reich der Spinne 322.773.3 Im Schutz der Drachen 719.252.9 Invasion aus der Galaxis 495.563.9 Invasion der UFO's 731.322.1 Jagd auf Diamanten-Frisco 875.413.7 Kampf dem Steinfresser 463.574.4 Kampf im Asteroiden-Gürtel 719.302.2 Kampf um die Schatzinsel 719.163.8 Katastrophein-Einsatz 876.0134 Labyrinth 805.7846 Landung in der Normandie 876.482.1 Landungskomando 176.4331 Marineflieger 176.764.9 Mein Weg 686.5612 Mission 3000 633.7232 Motocross 719.3832 Pac-Kong 219.2920 Phantom-Panzer 475.6136 Phantompanzer II 343.273.9 Raumbasen-Attacke 732.0740 Raumpatrouille 731.064.2 Robin Hood 684.7339 Schießbude 701.1349 Schussel, der Polizistenschreck 731.273.9 Spiderman 495.663.7 Schnapp die Apfeldiebe 429.6638 Stopp die Gangster 377.9436 Strahlen der Teufelsvögel 463.8607 Super-Cowboy beim Rodeo 874.2546 Super-Ferrari 402.2729 Teller Jonglieren 685.996.1 Tom´s Eierjagd 731.5039 Top Gun 626.5029 Ufi und sein Gefährlicher Einsatz 732.174.8 Ungeheuer der Tiefe Vogel Flieh 465.3028 Wachroboter jagt Jupy 715.8535 Weltraumtunnel 292.6517 Winterjagd 343.073.3 Wüstenschlacht 262.7941 Also, I have two that come in boxes that are slightly different, and also have a different serial number: Feuerwehr im Einsatz 657644 Kampf in der Galaxie 657644 So, there are at least 62 'real' Quelle games, and 64 if we count these two. Anybody got any more Quelle games that are not yet listed here? Cheers, Marco

I am looking for a list that contains games that: [*]were sold by Quelle AND [*]have cases with S.S. molded into the back AND [*]have "Quelle" listed on box and manual AND [*]have a serial number, like Best.-Nr "719.383 2". So, no single or double Taiwanese pirate or other crap, like the Bit games. Heck, if we were gonna list everything Quelle sold, we should also include regular releases by Atari, Imagic et al. So, what I would like to see is a complete and corroborated list of what I would like to call the Real Quelle Deal Cheers, Marco

It takes age to become classic, but age alone won't do. Also, time will change what is looked upon as classic - and not in the way most people here are claiming. Certainly *not* every system that has been around will be considered to be a classic just because it's from the old days. Rather, it will slowly but gradually be forgotten. When everyone that lived through it will have died, the whole home console era will be constructed around one system. The one system that made it all happen: The Atari 2600. So, while today we can think of reaons why NES could be considered a classic, in time it will slowly fade to the background, like the Emerson Arcadia is already fading from our memories at the moment. But that one system, that really started it all (and no, it's not Pong or Odyssey 1) will never fade from memory, thus being the only that preserves its status of a classic. The NES will never be able to claim that position, simply because it wasn't the first. Cheers, Marco