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I have a boxed Quadrun (need the manual though) and a spare shrinkwrapped unfolded box I really wonder why people insist on bringing up (or explicitly not bringing it up) this topic of "I cannot believe people pay etc etc". Do you ever hear collectors say "I cannot believe people actually enjoy playing Boxing"? No. Why not? Because it's all different aspects of this hobby, all worthy of doing and enjoying. Playing is not better than collecting. Programming is not better than hacking. Designing is not better than researching. Collecting is not better than playing. And so on. None of these are going on at the expense of the other. If you want to play Quadrun, you can play it. So where does this ongoing need for expressing complaints and insanity claims come from? Cheers, Marco

That's why Thomas' system is better Cheers, Marco

Phil, What an impressive collection indeed! I was wondering, do you have it insured? I was roughly estimating the value of my collection the other day, and it sure adds up. Now I'm looking into getting it insured and was wondering how to insure my collection. I mean, I can tell the company it is worth xxx dollar, but how will I be able to prove it is worth xxx when something would actually happen? I bet the insurance company has no clue as to the value of these games... Cheers, Marco

Hi guys, I was updating my wantlist and figured "why not post it on AtariAge, you just never know!" So here it is, my Atari 2600 wantlist. If you have any of the items below, please contact me. I can offer both trades and cash $$$ in return. The most conspicuous hole in my collection is Air Raid . Of course I know most people consider this near impossible to get, but it never hurts to try! I have all other super-duper-top-5-rare games, but this one keeps eluding me. Anyone out there care to help me with this one?? Other USA games I'm still looking for are: Burgertime Telegames (does this exist?) Frogs and Flies Telegames (does this exist?) I Want My Mommy Zimag Sea Hawk Panda Of course, there are plenty more (see list below), but these are some holes I'd like to see filled up with nice, boxed games Cheers, Marco =0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0= Marco's wantlist of Atari 2600 BOXED games =0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0= Adventure - Atari, 1978 release box Adventure - Sears Air Raid - Men-A-Vision Apples and Dolls- Polyvox Arcade Golf - Sears Asteroid Fire - Homevision Asteroids - Atari, 1979 release box Atari Video Cube - Atari, 1982 release box (exists?) Backgammon - Atari, 1978 release box Backgammon - Sears Base Attack - Homevision Basic Programming - Atari, 1978 release box Basis-Angriff - Quelle Basketball - Sears Baumeister - Spectravideo, golden box Berzerk - Sears Bi! Bi! - Suntek Bomb DC I dual pack - Bomb Bomb DC II dual pack - Bomb Boom Bang - Suntek Bowling - Sears Burgertime - Telegames (exists?) Canyon Bomber - Atari, 1978 release box Canyon Bomber - Sears Capture - Goliath Centipede - Atari, 1982 release box Checkers - Sears Chuck Norris Superkicks - Xonox Chuck Norris Superkicks/Robin Hood - Xonox Chuck Norris Superkicks/Spike's Peak - Xonox Circus Atari - Atari, 1978 release box Circus - Sears Col 'N - Homevision Cosmic War - Homevision Crazy Climber - Atari, 1982 release box (exists?) Criminal Persuit - Suntek Criminal Pursuit - Taiwan TP-619 Curtiss - Suntek Dactar Comp Keyboard - Dactar Defender II - Atari, 1986 release box Defender - Sears Demo / Vorführcassette #1, #3 and #4 - Hot Shot Demons to Diamonds - Atari, 1978 release box Demons to Diamonds - Sears Dig Dug - Atari, 1983 release box Donald Duck - Polyvox or any other manufacturer Dragon Treasure - CCE, picture label Duck Fighting - CCE, picture label ET - Atari, 1982 release box Farmyard Fun - Taiwan TP-617 Frisco - Homevision Frogs and Flies - Telegames (exists?) Fuchs & Schweinchen Schläu - Quelle Galactic - Funvision Galactic - Goliath Galactic - Rainbowvision General Retreat/Westward Ho - Playaround, box only Ghost Manor - Xonox Ghost Manor/Artillery Duel - Xonox Ghost Manor/Chuck Norris Superkicks - Xonox Go Go Home Monster - Homevision Golf - Atari, 1978 release box Goliath #1, #9 etc - Goliath Hangman - Atari, 1978 release box Haunted House - Sears Hey! Stop! - Rainbowvision Hole Hunter - Taiwan TP-606 I Want My Mommy - Zimag Immies & Aggies - CCE, picture label IQ 180 - Homevision IQ Memory Teaser - Suntek Jagd im Apfelbaum - Quelle Jr. Pac-Man - Atari, 1986 release box Kangaroo - Atari, 1983 release box Keyboard - Dynacom Lilly Adventure - Homevision Magic Carpet - Homevision Mariana - Suntek Marspatrouille - Quelle Math Gran Prix - Sears Maze Craze - Atari, 1978 release box Maze Mania - Sears Millipede - Atari, 1984 release box Monster aus dem All - Quelle Motocross Racer - Xonox Motocross - Rainbowvision Motocross - Suntek Mousetrap - Atari, 1987 release box Ms Pac Man - Atari, 1982 release box Music Machine - Sparrow, box and manual Mysterio Azteca / Agente Super - HAL Night Driver - Atari, 1978 release box Othello - Atari, 1978 release box Outer Space - Sears Panda Chase - Homevision Panda Quest - Suntek Parachute - Homevision Pharao's Curse - Technovision Phoenix - Atari, 1982 release box Pizza Chef - CCE, picture label Plate Mania - Homevision Poker Plus - Sears Pole Position - Atari, 1983 release box Quadrun - Atari, manual only Raketen-Angriff - Ariola Raumroboter - Ariola Realsports Boxing - Atari, 1986 release box Realsports Soccer - Atari, 1983 release box Robin Hood - Xonox, cart only Robot Attack - CCE, picture label Robot Fight - Homevision Robot Tank - Polyvox RS Tennis - Atari, 1983 release box Scuba Diver - Panda Sea Hawk - John Sands Sea Hawk - Panda Seal to Whales - Data Tech See Monster - Quelle Sir Lancelot - Xonox, cart only Sky Alien - Homevision Slot Machine - Atari, 1978 release box Snoopy and the Red Baron - Polyvox Soccer - Sears Solaris - Atari, 1986 release box Space Canyon - Panda Space Robot - Goliath Spike's Peak - Xonox Star Raiders - Sears Star Voyager - CCE, picture label Star War - CCE, picture label Stargate - Atari, 1984 release box Sternen-Kampf - Quelle Submarine Commander - Sears Suitcase System - Dactar Super Breakout - Atari, 1978 release box Super Ferrari - Rainbowvision Super Ferrari - Suntek Super Man - Quelle Supercharger and tapes - Canal-3 Supercharger and tapes - Comp-K7 Supercharger and tapes - Digitel Supercharger and tapes - VGS Superman - Atari, 1978 release box Surround - Atari, 1977 release box System (green) - Microdigital Tanks War - Homevision Taz - Atari, 1983 release box Teddy Apple - Homevision Tennis - Homevision Time Machine - Goliath Time Race - Suntek title?? SS-014 - Rainbowvision title?? SS-014 - Suntek title?? SS-018 - Rainbowvision title?? SS-018 - Suntek title?? SS-021 - Suntek title?? SS-025 - Suntek title?? SS-026 - Suntek title?? SS-027 - Suntek title?? SS-028 - Suntek title?? SS-030 - Suntek Tomarc the Barbarian / Motocross Racer - Xonox Tomarc the Barbarian - Xonox Topsy - Homevision Video Checkers - Atari, 1978 release box Video Chess - Atari, 1978 release box Vom Himmel durch die Hölle - Quelle Wall Break - Homevision War 2000 - Homevision Warlords - Sears Wolf und Schwein - Quelle World Trap - Homevision X-Man - Any manufacturer X'Mission - Homevision Zoo Fun - Homevision ...hmm. that's not "holes"... that's the bloody Grand Canyon!

Don't get me wrong, I don't know this for sure. I was looking for someone to confirm it Anyone? Or are all experts on their way to Vegas already? Cheers, Marco

Aren't 99,9% of all Donald protos finished products, merely waiting to be put into cases and sold? Cheers, Marco

hehehe, well as long as you can be a little irrational from time to time, we'll get along just fine. If you believe logical operators apply to real life too, you'll quickly loose me Cheers, Marco

But I don't like to wade through an indistinguishable conglomeration of posts! I like your original idea a lot! Just add general gaming (i.e. anything not Atari, from NES to X-Box) to off topic (this is an Atari site after all) and we're all set, if you ask me Cheers, Marco

Yes, it's your uncle!! Cheers, Marco

I have once shipped a giant Atari robot to Holland and it's expensive! I reckon it will cost you about € 500 alltogether at least... If it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing, why not go for it though? This auction might go cheap, so you may get lucky The best thing to do is to find a Germany-based freight carrier that has a base near the place where the seller lives. That will save a little on shipping cost and makes communication a whole lot easier. Good luck! Cheers, Marco

I like it! Anyone can add zeros to their liking! People, we've just discovered the perfect, flexible rating system! 1. 2. > $15(0)(0) Now if only the Euro and Dollar would remain in a 1:1 ratio... Cheers, Marco

Yep, it's mostly English now. Both German and French are on the decline. I've had English for six, Greek and Latin for five, French for four and German for three years. I can read German if it's not too complicated (which it usually isn't on a messageboard) and spoken without too much accent (went on holiday to the Schwarz Wald last year and I just couldn't understand the bauer we were staying at, it just sounded like jibberish to me!) Yep, I live close to the German border (only like 5 km or so), but for some reason not too many Germans frequent this town. The ones I see visit the "coffee" shop across the street here and that's about it, only some occasional visitors on Saturday. In other towns, like Arnhem and Enschede there's much more German visitors. And of course some of the towns in the province of Limburg, like Venlo and Heerlen, have lots of drug tourists. Most people there will have no problem adressing you in German. I can speak some German but I find it quite difficult to speak and write correctly. Don't forget I wasn't born here, I was born near the Belgium border (so I understand Flemmish quite well). As for the German-Dutch love-hate relationship, I think that's mainly a mass thing. When it comes to football the Dutch will still complain about 1974 and even refer to the war. But that football thing now appears to be mutual (remember the silly "ihr seit nicht dabei songs and websites"?) I don't think the people in Limburg like the German drug tourists, but that has nothing to do with them being German (and we created the liberal drug climate ourselves). On an individual level, I think you'd find few Dutchmen who don't like Germans. We're not that far apart in character, though the Dutch may be a bit more laid-back. But after you've drunk some beer, you're not that bad either Cheers, Marco

I wonder what the voices sound like though. If they're Quadrun / Sesame quality, then we're not missing much here. :wink: Just kidding, sounds (sic!) like a very nice piece of work! I'm sure though people who cannot go to CGE will be able to live without them. Just think of it this way: the hunt for any of these CGE-exclusives will be just as fun as the couple of times you'll pop any of the games in your 2600 when you finally acquired it. Cheers, Marco

Hey Dieter, Let's not forget: V Cheers, Marco

It's the same with any rating system. I mean, how can you distinguish between rarities on a 1 to 10 scale? Somehow though, people feel the need to make detailed divisions. On the C - U - R - ER - UR system, people started to use C- and C+ etc. I have more or less given up on this for the Atari 2600. I now go by a system that consists of only two categories: obtainable and almost-not-obtainable. The first contains 95% of all items available for the Atari 2600, the latter the rest. It's quite easy to use and makes collector's life much simpler Cheers, Marco

The difference is that this never left the Atari warehouse, the lack of the beautiful label being the most conspicuous sign of that. They who count this as a prototype are wrong, I'm sure any prototype expert on this board will agree. In the end, that is what counts. I only wanted you to know what you had bought, as many people have been fooled by this one particular item. But I guess it fits nicely in your museum of "prototype" curiosities Cheers, Marco

That is NO prototype, it is the same thing as described above: a production run Quadrun board in a generic case. Matty, you may want to ask some more questions first before bidding on stuff that's presented as "prototypes". There's a lot of junk out there that people try to disguise as something special. Cheers, Marco

If you have a real lab loaner, you're the man! However, if you have one that originally came from Best, you have a fake proto on your hand. Still contains an original Quadrun pcb, but it's not a lab loaner. Look for not-rounded edges on the bit too crisp looking label. Philflound is right, there are dozens maybe even hundreds of these in existence. Cheers, Marco

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BOMB DC-II ??? Damn fish, you're on to me again! Yes, of course I'm only saying that so others will leave everything to me Cheers, Marco

just kidding fish, though you probably remember our discussion about the Universum compumate too :wink: Take care, Marco

Hi Angelo, little hint: you should never trust the German guys telling you about the rarity of the German games, they're just protecting their tradelists Cheers, Marco

He's back to where he came from, Holland, and is now into hip internet-tv-broadband that not a lot of people seem to care about yet :wink: Cheers, Marco

Hi guys, I got a mail from Van Burnham explaining that the Supercade carts aren't finished yet. She wanted to have them ready for CGE 2002, but didn't make it. She thinks it'll take a couple more months for them to be finished. Eric Bacher from Ebivision told me that they're no longer involved in the project. And as for the Pac-Man ROM, call me weird, but I like the fact that not *everything* is available to *everyone*. Every mind needs something to be left desired :wink: Cheers, Marco Cheers, Marco

PayPal and Billpoint are the safest way if you have a credit card. Otherwise, well concealed cash by registered mail seems to be the only option. Cheers, Marco