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Guten Amt... Andreas Re: Dos based menu's... never did like them... even tdiv (transdisk 4), gave up with it after receiving a copy of howfendos, and also having found out how disks and cassette proggies load into mem (except complex disk multiloaders), using programs like howfendos, digicomm's freezer, superdos and my 130xe's built in ominmon/ultimon combi, i managed to get most of my games onto binary, with the exception of several, JW Darts (not the compendium vers.), Domain o/t undead, mercenary (48k), BBSB, Thunderfox, and some others i cant remember, unfortunately due to most of them loading in lo mem (sub $0B00 hex) packing the files with cruncher 5 was out of the question, the only way to pack the files was super packer by Bewesodt I also managed to do Zybex, KDSM (except the team selection bit), Rockford, Daylight Robbery, Slingshot, Raid over moscow, redmax and loads and loads of others My menu's of choice were howfen and JW (now multiboot)

Mean 18 Midi Maze Animated Puzzle Blue Print (not the Glenn the 5200 man hack) Cosmic Tunnels (cartridge version) Da Fuzz Destiny: The Cruiser Jinks Lettor Tutor Lifespan (cartidge version) Mario Bros. (original 84 version) Mat Mania Challenge Montezuma's Revenge (cartridge version) Mr. Do's Castle (cartridge version) Explorer (Pastfinder WIP proto) The Final Legacy betas (1 and 2) Track and Field (84 Games version) Tutankham Xenophobe Mat Mania challenge... never ever A8, 7800 only Jinks... As per mat mania etc Midi Maze... Atari ST me thinks Mean 18... Atari 7800 and ST me thinks I did own a track and field plus controller (A8) I did own Final legacy as well (A8)

forget this cosmos bloke, he's just fishing for market value for the item A better product prototype would have been the atari 1600xl (apparently the one that was to have featured the amiga chipset) Alt... A proto version of computer space (cabinet, monitor, pcb/electronics the lot) A PAL version of the 5200 or 1200 (none ever manuf. or proto'd) The fabled AMIE/AMY chip (complete with xe me) A fully working proto of Panther, 1090xl Expansion box (complete with all cards and must be working) and not forgetting the all in one Antic/G/Ctia chip design (apparently, proto's exist) I know... dream on... dream on .. you thirty somethings!!!

Was that dos boot disks, i.e 3 or 4 sector load and then reads directory sectors 360-368 or Was that normal boot disks (Non Dos) like transdisk multiboot or howfen

The ST line, on the other hand, was "their" computer. Quite right because they nicked it from commodore, just as commodore nicked Amiga from Atari

It might have been called the c65 in other mkts, in the UK it was basically called the C64 games system, more to put it in other words, CBM's version of Atari's XE GS (without a keyboard or i/o device option) A C64 designed to play cartridge games, very much similar to the unreleased max/ultimax of years b4

Allegedly or apparently, Atari did have perfectly working and stable versions of amy working on atari xe's (apparently, their were full working versions demonstrated at the 85 CES show), they didn't release this version of the XE because tramiel wanted the Amy chip working on the ST series as well, and because Atari could'nt get amy to work on the ST, they dropped the 8 bit version as they felt that Amy on the A8 might have cut into the ST's sales in the music industry, and Atari wanted to keep the ST exclusively for music (because of the Midi interface) A similar situation occured when Dataque/chuck steinmann offered Atari the turbo 816 upgrade, Atari nixed the deal by asking for a bigger percentage of the pricepoint, also because they felt that this upgrade might encrouch on ST sales due largely in part of the miss-information that this product generated in the marketplace

Ironic, as I had a 'orginal' John Williams Boot Menu (as in original disk), this menu system eventually evolved into the infamous 'Multiboot' I also had an original 'howfen dos' menu creator disk, (non atari dos compatible) which also allowed you to convert Rob C Ina K, Alfa (or was it Alpha), C Elton and Jon Williams/Multiboot all to howfen boot It also allowed you to convert certain types of single/multistage tapes to howfen menu (as part of the menu creator program), and similar type tape to disk convertor as a separate program, and the resulting boot disk could be converted to running from a howfen menu I only used the separate tape-boot disk program as a way to convert tape programs into binary files (as my old atari xe had built in omnimon/ultimon) In the UK we also had the fairly popular 'transdisk' t-d convertor and menu maker, it did all the standard single/mutistage boot tapes (about 80-90 p/c) and quite a few of the non standard tape boots (like EA/English software/US GOLD etc)... the only problem with this program is that the menu part was very big (120) sectors, plus it added about 3-15 sectors for each stage, i calculated that a typical transdisk file was between 25-35 sectors longer in lenght then if the same program have been converted using howfendos (assuming it was compatible) Also the file structure is not dos compatible (i.e. you cannot load the eventual trandisk file thru dos) though you could copy individual transdisk created files with dos, but it isnt reccommended When I was still using this menu system, i was told that there was a bloke in Wales that could convert transdisk files to howfen or dos... he never intimated to me how this was done hope that this helps

it would apear that there is an element of truth behind kevin242's remarks, as i also saw similar comments in reviews of the 7800's hardware in UK Atari mag's around the time Atari relaunched the Atari 7800 in 1987 My understanding is that tramiel scrapped the 7800, as he wanted to use the hardware chip design for a new Atari 8bit computer, somehow combining the maria chip and existing Antic/GTIA technology into a one chip design, this project was scrapped when tramiels Atari lost amiga to CBM, As Atari intended the Amiga to become the ST, the 7800 to become the Atari 8bit, and somehow update the 2600 with new hardware (either that or a re-released updated 5200) Someone mentioned the dual GTIA product... never heard of it myself, perhaps they might be getting mixed up with the Dual Antic product that i saw mentioned (and advertised) in page 6 (atari user) I beleive it was designed by the well known Atari hardware guru... Bob Wooley Gumby was originally done by Dataque/chuck steinmann, he was also behind the first attempt at utilising the 65816 (16 bit version of 6502) processor on the A8 (Atari were 'allegedly' offered this product) Interesting thing about the AppleIIgs processor and the 65816 is, is that Atari themselves were responsible for this processor's original design

I am looking for some online or offline assembler programming tutorials (6502) for my atari 8bit sytem (13xe and 800xl) and also for the 2 atari emu's i have running on my pc, unfortunately when i was into using my Atari (b4 my 1050's died on me) i never gone into basic programming, although i did enjoy using mydos and atari dos 2.5 (i cant stand spartados, i reminds me of the very reasons why i didn't buy pc in the first place) If some atari expert out there can help... much appreciated Additionally i am looking for the following for my atari pc emu's (atari800plus and atari ++) Atari assembler editior cart image OSS mac 65 cart image modd'd version of the debugger/monitor that comes with atari800plus that allows you to read in disk sectors/not files A version of the Omnimon/Ultimon rom images that works properly on the aforementioned emu's, as the one i've got doesn't seem to work Again... any help on the above... greatly appreciated

I do have some Atari 800/xl/xe disk game menu's however i don't think youd be int. because they are all rob c, alpha, ian k, howfen and multiboot menus etc(UK) and what might be a prob is that i no longer own a 1050 (modded) and also i am UK based (London)

I notice that on the various atari 8bit w/s's, that people alway's seem to be making comparisons between the commodore and atari 8bit systems Well I'm about to bring this discussion hopefully to a stop period (as the americans say) I say this because in recent months I have been in communication with one of the principles/owners of one of the better known Atari general w/s's I asked them, that since the vic 20 was released after the atari 800/400 was released, and that until the release of the atari 8bit, commodore had nothing technologically to out technology atari Anyway, they responded by saying that they knew one of the chief cbm engineers working on the vic/c64 hardware, i think they said the engineers name was bob yannes (don't ask me how to pronounce the family name) And furthermore, to bring cbm, technology wise into line with the atari 8bit, they basically reverse engineered everything, or to use the cbm engineers wording 'basically tore into the a8's hardware' (joystick interface, custom hardware chips etc,etc) the only thing they didn't reverse engineer the 6510, as commodore already owned the company that originated the 6510 (which is basically a crippled 6502) So next time, some snotty cbm 8'er compares his system with the atari 8bit, you can tell them why it's similar

for sale 1 BIG BIG box (v. heavy) of nearly 200 atari 8bit casstte/tape games All originals, some not in original pkg'g UK only Open to decent offers, best proice/offer secures Please note, buyer MUST collect or make arrangements re:collection/delivery Please email only [email protected] happy atari'ng CA

for sale 1 BIG BIG box (v. heavy) of nearly 200 atari 8bit casstte/tape games All originals, some not in original pkg'g UK only Open to decent offers, best proice/offer secures Please note, buyer MUST collect or make arrangements re:collection/delivery Please email only [email protected] happy atari'ng CA