carmel_andrews

But what if you bought a 90's built A8 or C64 (since both were still being made until 1992)

If i recall correctly it was around about if not slightly more then 3K, all I remember is the strapline they had underneath it 'The first machine to run MS software')

I saw a fully assembled one at CEX (a second hand games/hardware shop) near TCR for about the same price, back end of 1999 I am guessing that not to many fully working one's are in circulation (if they go for that amount)

I will wait till one shows up at CEX or gamestation/game (a second hand games shop)....just so I don't have to pay through the nose for a new game (I think, give it about a month or two and one should show up) Just OOI, have they put the previous 4 TR's on compilation yet (i.e Guardian o/t light, underworld, legend and anniversary)...After all they put the first 6 out on compilation...I was stupid enough not to buy it when it turned up at CEX

Sorry, don't use google cack, could you not use someone like rapidshare or mediafire (since you are using filesharing sites) as they are more firefox/IE 8 friendly

I keep getting error on both links (page cannot be displayed gig)

Following on from Thordbg's thread about the built in OS in his emulator and given that the only 2 regularly maintained emulators now come with their own 'tweaked' versions of the Atari O.S, It begs the following question Is there any chance of an Open Sourced Atari platform (not just the A8) After all i beleive there now exists third party OpenSourced versions of TOS (so called EmuTOS) And given that Atari++ and Altirra already come with their own versions of the Atari OS we are kind of partway there And since both EmuTOS and the two A8 emulator OS's support the various ST/STE and A8 upgrades that are programmed into the emulators (i.e. VBXE, Hard drives, Memory expansions, Disk Drive mods and other such things) I think the impetus is there to get the various and all Atari platforms more opensourced, even games systems like the 2600/7800 and also Lynx/Jaguar etc...It might just lead onto more 3rd party development (both hardware and software) After all, whilst i so of accept that Linux hasn't dismantled M$$$'s dominance of the desktop computer OS, It has really given M$$$ and sony/Nintendo serious competition in the desktop and mobile gaming OS markets (thanks largely to Google opting for Andriod, a linux derivative) After all, Atari themselves aren't interested in hardware platforms anymore and anyway we don't really need someone like Atari to make an Atari Opensourced platform successful (after all I read somewhere that the original 'flashback' sold 500000 units and with virtually zero marketing or advertising from Atari themselves, given that flashback had to compete with the free to download software emulators for the 2600/7800, in my book that aint bad going considering the piss poor support atari gave it) To get around the issue of copyrighted hardware (i.e Antic, Pokey and GTIA) I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to reproduce/replicate those chip features without neccessarily infringing copyright

As for Mirage....I managed to combine the 2 part Atari software protection techniques using Nitro PDF and also Foxit phantom (as I can't stand Adobe Reader) second book If anyone wants them I can upload them (as i already have book 1)

Size isn't important....It's what you do with it that counts

Microsofty and Apples destroyed the 'home computer' Or is it the case that Atari, Commodore etc etc just couldn't keep up Interesting though that Atari were considering going down the UNIX route with the initial (1985) R&D version of what became the TT, shame that they didn't stick with that idea, Atari might still be with us as a hardware company.... considering that Apple got lucky with their own 'port' of UNIX (from bsd),thanks largely to a buyout/merger with SJ's NeXT corp. (Otherwise I think apple would have bitten the dust, like Atari and Commodore did)

Linky only http://uk.games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/gamestick---the-%C2%A380-android-games-console-the-size-of-a-match-box-125642063.html Looks interesting, system is 'cheapish' and the games seem cheap enough (even if they are basically portovers/conversions from other android compat. systems) I think they will need some new games content if they want to be taken seriously If they go get the support though, I think the likes of Sony and M$$$$ might have to start lowering their prices or going down the same route as the linked to company and offering a stripped down version of a ps4/xbox but usb/hdmi stick stylee

link only http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/video/video.htm Enjoy, commodore fans

How the F**k is that speculation or didn't you read the damn article Or just to rub it in 'so to speak' here is some more http://corporate.findlaw.com/contracts/operations/technology-development-and-license-agreement-sega-enterprises.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3dfx#Dreamcast http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=270455

Linky only http://www.techspot.com/article/653-history-of-the-gpu-part-2/ Interesting that Sega were looking to piggyback on the success (at the time) of 3DFX (where are 3DFX now....there again, where are Sega) and getting 3DFX to develop the gfx/video hardware for what became the dreamcast I'd be interested to know why Sega (or was it 3DFX) backed out of the joint development, just think...A leading edge gfx/video hardware company tying up with a fairly popular videogame brand (bearing in mind that Sega were already getting trounced by Sony's playstation) so having leading video hardware in a new gaming system (to better compete with whatever sony came up with) could have put Sega and the dreamcast on a better footing with the PS2 and also give the PS2 some decent competition There again, AMD haven't exactly set the world on fire with their buyout or merger with ATI (i.e. they haven't taken marketshare away from Intel), so perhaps Sega (or was it 3DFX) saw something in the tie up that might not have worked someway down the line ...Or maybe perhaps Just like sega poopoo'd using 3do's m2 technology in their gaming hardware development (apparently they weren't too impressed with the spec's/hardware) perhaps Sega saw the tie up with 3DFX in the same light and thought that Sega could develop just as good a gfx/video hardware as 3DFX were doing Question is though, Would the DC have done any better had both companies gone through with the joint development and 3DFX supplying the gfx/video hardware for the DC

Someone beat yah to it http://atariage.com/forums/topic/210784-disney-puts-the-hammer-to-lucasarts/unread/

Groovybee....I don't think the programmer (if that's who Mr Loon's gonna see) will have the foggiest as to what a vcs/2600 is, let alone know that what now passes as 'ATARI' used to actually make the hardware I can see it now, the loon suddenly mentions the 2600 (in passing) and the programmer say's 'whats that', the loon says, something that the old ATARI company made before you were even born

Seeming as though you want to dredge up history (re: posts 5 and 14) perhaps I should ‘return the favour’, after all…One good turn deserves another, as the old line goes I seem to remember back in the annals of Atariage history (sorry can’t be arsed or bothered to find the link or use the search service) that a certain person (who shall remain nameless) wanted to sell his Atari 8bit disk games on ebay (I believe there was a thread about said auction/listing on this v. forum) Now, you may ask, what’s wrong with that, however there was something very interesting regarding the disks…..According to the person placing the auction/listing that the disks were ‘all originals’ (i.e. not pirate/copies) however in the 20 years or so that they’d kept them they had somehow magically ‘lost their original labels’, if I recall the thread/auction correctly all or most of the disks had ‘lost all their original labels’ (hence the fact that all the disks had homebrew or self written labels attached to the ‘original disks’), which naturally or obviously lead to suggestions that the disks might not be as ‘original’ as the auction seemed to state or infer/imply I will, for the purpose of this post refrain from using the exact words that suggested that the disks were not as ‘original’ as the auction seemed to state, and only because I seem to recall or remember that a certain person here (who shall remain nameless) started spitting his dummy out and threatened anyone that suggested that the disks were not originals with legal action (I guess the certain persons angle would have been, suing them for libel, slander or defamation or similar) Perhaps the person concerned can remind me, did they manage to sell the disks on eBay, or did eBay somehow get wind that the disks might not be ‘originals’ as stated in the listing/auction and promptly removed the auction or listing Couple of reasons why I bring this up now (apart from dredging up history like the person concerned seems to want to) firstly, I still have all my old boot menu disks and dos/PD disks from when I was heavy into actually using my A8 hardware (some 500 plus disks) I’d say that over ¾’s of those disks are 20 years or older and the remainder are no later then 1997/8, most of the disks were put in an industrial supplies box with some other stuff and another large industrial box placed on top of that box (the ones with the disks in) Late last year I decided to see if the disks were OK, so I dug the box out and thumbed through all the disks and guess what, not a single one had managed to loose their original label Interesting that none of my disks managed to lose their original labels yet in a certain persons eBay auction/listing, all or most of their disks had ‘magically’ lost their original labels The 2nd reason why I bought this up, If as the person concerned claimed, that the disks they were selling on eBay were ‘originals’ then why did they feel the need to threaten people with legal action and since they did (if I recall correctly) post comments in that thread, why didn’t the person concerned provide evidence to back up their claim that the disks were indeed originals….After all if you have nothing to hide (i.e. the disks were indeed originals) then you have nothing to fear by providing evidence to back up your claim If eBay did get wind of the fact that the disks that the person concerned was trying to sell were not ‘originals’ as the person claimed they were in the auction and therefore removed the auction, why didn’t the person concerned appeal the removal and get the auction reinstated or just re-advertise the disks, if as the original auction claimed that all the disks were ‘originals’