RamrodHare

Just remember a standard cheap AV like I have, still has these lines, even with the RF components removed from the board and the shielding still in place. Whatever is causing this is somehow corrected with the UAV mod, but not the common AV mods and doesn't seem to have anything to do with RF interference, since mine has no RF components on the board now.

I've messed with most of them, except the Jr. Out of the last 3 2600s I ran into, the only one that was fully working was a worn 4 switch woody that was badly beaten up. the case had chips and cracks all over it, so I pulled the board out of it (revision 12) and stuck it into a Vader shell that had a bad board. So I have a nice new looking Vader, that I did the LED and AV mods on. So, in my recent experience, I'd lean toward looking for one of the 4 switch woodys. Of course any working 4 switcher would be fine. As far as the 7800 goes, mine works great, but the plastic on them is very brittle, so you have to be careful with them. I AV modded mine and I use it quite often, even for my 2600 games. The cartridge connector on the 7800 is too tight for some games, but if you ever have the system apart, to do an AV mod or something, you can remove the plastic part of the connector and file out the corners and reinstall it. Then all the carts will fit. I don't have any experience with the Jr. but I have been tempted to buy one, just because it's smaller, making it more carry friendly if I want to take it with me somewhere. If you buy an Atari off eBay, just makes sure the seller has plenty of positive feedback and lists the console as "Tested and working". Good luck on getting your Atari!

I really love this game. Has anything else been done on it since the last update? It would be awesome if it's working with Savekeys now.

So, I'm bringing a dead thread back to life, because it was either that or make a new one just like it. I just got my Savekey from CPUWIZ a few days ago and I LOVE IT! (Thank You CPUWIZ!) It's an amazing device that does just what the name suggests. It saves your high scores and on some games, replays and even your position in the game so you can turn off your Atari and come back to it later. The one thing I have to note is that it only works with certain homebrew games. The thing to remember is, if you just have ONE of those games, the Savekey is something you REALLY want! (If you have an AtariVox, the Savekey feature is built-in, so you don't need to buy one). It's amazing to start up a game and see a high score table with your score and initials right there. Now the features do vary from game to game. Some games only save the score, some save the score and your initials. Other games have what you might call a save-point, allowing you to start where you left off the last time you played. Strat-O-Gems even saves replay data, so you can watch your best combos again and again. I can't say enough about how cool this little thing is. For those of you wondering, it does work with the Harmony Cart too! CPUWIZ did an amazing job putting this one together for me. It looks amazing and works perfectly. I really can't Thank him enough for sending me this. Mine looks just like the one pictured earlier in this thread. It has the blue tip with a keychain and blue LED. From what I understand, demand wasn't very high for these when they were first made. I really think people should give them a second look now. With the homebrews that use the save functions, these things are really nice. If you can afford it, the Atarivox+ can do the same thing and has the added voice feature, but for those on a budget, the Savekey is awesome. You really can't go wrong with one.

Mine has the standard cheap AV mod and I removed the RF box. I'm going to connect my 2600 to the little CRT I have handy and see if the lines are trimmed off by the screen shape, if they are, then this issue is only going to apply to people who use widescreen TVs. Honestly, I'd rather use a CRT or a 4:3 aspect flatscreen, but I'm having a big issue with color bleeding on the CRT I have here and I can't seem to find a reasonably priced 4:3 flatscreen anywhere. Nick, just to clarify, you are using a widescreen TV, correct?

That's the version of Scramble that I have. I'll try the other versions of Go Fish! before I contact the developer. No point bothering him if I don't have to. I played Thrust+ Platinum v1.26 and I managed to get 900 points, but it didn't save it. I think with some practice, I'll like Thrust. I'm just really tired right now, I'm sure after I get some sleep I'll be better at it, my reflexes aren't too good when I'm this tired. Is high score saving enabled on the Thrust+ Platinum v1.26 rom or is it just on the cart? I wasn't sure from reading your comment earlier.

At least I know my savekey is working. I'm fairly sure the roms are the latest, but I'll recheck them later today to be sure. I'm happy that most of them are working, but I'd be happier if Go Fish! was saving. If the roms I have do turn out to be the latest, I may go back to some older versions to see if the savekey works. I don't understand Scramble though. Without the savekey, it always says "ARCADE", but with the savekey, it keeps the setting at "novice". So it's clearly seeing the savekey, but it never says "savekey found" on the Atari Age screen and it isn't saving any scores. I know I have the latest version of it, because it's part of the rom name.. Maybe I'll have better luck with an older version of it.. If I can't figure out why Go Fish! won't work, I'll try contacting the developer and see if he can help me out. As far as Thrust+ goes, it might be working. I'm just not good enough at it to score any points.

Ok, I tried it on what games I had on my SD card already. Here's the list of what worked. Elevators Amiss Fall Down Juno First Lead Man Goes Down Omicron Strat-O-Gems Palomino Wall Jump Ninja Here's the list of ones that didn't work for me.. Astar( did nothing) Go Fish (did nothing) Scramble (scramble seems to be saving the "novice" setting when I go back to it, but it's not keeping my score.) I tried Thrust+ ( I was so bad at it that I couldn't get any points.)

Ok. Plugged into port 2, yes. Straight in, no extensions or anything. Man goes down is working. Strat-O-gems is working. Scramble is saving the "novice" setting, but it's not displaying that it found the savekey at the beginning and it's not saving the score. Go Fish isn't doing anything. I have the newest versions of all the games and I've tested them on the 2600 and on the 7800. As far as I know, there are no issues with the ports on either machine. It's got me stumped.

I tried it on Scramble and it's not showing that it's found it. It did work on Strat-o-gems, but so far, that's the only game it's working on. CPUWIZ just made this savekey for me a few days ago so I'm pretty sure it's alright. I figured that there was some trick to getting it to work with the Harmony Encore. I tested it on my 2600 and my 7800. Strat-o-gems score and replay are working, but no other games I've tried are saving anything.

Ok, I may be asking a really simple question, that's probably been answered before, but I did a search and couldn't find an answer. I have a savekey (Thanks to CPUWIZ) and I'm trying to get it to work with the Harmony Encore. I know what games it works with and I've tried it on a couple of them, but I'm apparently not doing something right. So far I haven't managed to pull up even one saved high score. I'm guessing I'm just doing something dumb. I think some games you need to hold the fire button when you power the system on, but that gets a little confusing, since the power is already on when you start a game from the Harmony Cart. I feel like an idiot because I know this is something simple that I'm missing here.. As an example, let's try Go Fish! Can someone just tell me what I need to do to save and then load it?

OK, I managed to remember to test my 7800 and sure enough, no lines on the edges. Which also jogged my memory about something. I was sure that my 2600 didn't have any lines until after I installed the new caps and stuff. What I had forgotten about was that I had been playing everything on the 7800. I didn't start using the 2600 again until I installed the tune-up kit. Old age, man it sure sneaks up on ya. Now that that's settled, It would be nice to know what was changed in the hardware to hide the lines. If it was something as simple as a resistor, maybe it could be replicated on the 2600? Of course, It's not that big of a deal I guess. If it really bothered me, I can always just keep using my 7800. Really, the only reason to use the 2600 instead of the 7800 is just because I like the way it looks. I'm not sure how to explain it, but playing a 2600 game with a 7800 sitting in front of me just doesn't feel "right". I kinda feel guilty, like I'm breaking some ancient, unspoken rule.

I figured it was something we would have to live with. I'll hook up my 7800 in little while and see if it looks the same, since I can't remember ( I just had it connected a few days ago, shows what happens to our minds as we age.) I'll tell you though, before I replaced the caps and stuff on my 2600, I really don't think the line was this obvious... My experience, based on the TVs I have availible, is that I get a much better picture when I'm using the HDTVs than the CRTs. I don't have any noticeable color bleeding on the HDs, but it's horrible on my CRT. I have yet to test my floor model Magnavox TV, since it's a pain to get to. It's so big that I don't have space in my house for it, so I left it at my Father's and it's now used as a table/shelf of sorts. I'll try my best to get my 7800 hooked up and post the results tonight, unless it slips my mind (as most everything does, especially when to take my medications).

OK, You make a good point. I probably rambled on a bit in my post and pulled it slightly off topic because I was annoyed. I agree, having the console output via HDMI, is an advantage. My point was, if everyone keeps saying it's worth $80, before the official price has been set, the chance, that Hyper-whatsit will charge more than they had originally planned, increases. making the console cost more than the "average" person can justify. Here in East TN, most everyone I know makes between $250 and $400 a week. They also have rent, car payments, electric, cell phone, water, cable bills, etc. I know there are a lot of places in the USA and around the world, where $80 is probably pocket change, but there are also places where it isn't. People constantly saying $80 is great, (when the plan may have been to release it at $40) may very well cause it to be released at $80, pricing "average" people out of the game. That's the point I'm trying to make. People don't need to keep throwing a dollar amount around. The makers of this thing want to make a profit, if they see people will throw $80 at it without a second thought, that's what they will sell it for. If you were looking to buy a new car, would you start telling the dealer you would pay $20,000, without knowing he was only asking $10,000? That's what's happening here, but people seem to be oblivious to it.

There are WAY too many people saying that $80 is fine. It's not. Keep in mind that some people live on fixed incomes. Everyone can't throw $80 around like it's nothing. Even poor people can probably save up $40 for something to enjoy (besides food and running water). The first price that was mentioned here was $40 and people were happy with that, then someone brings up $80 and people are still jumping for joy, even though the price just doubled. Given the fact that we REALLY don't know what it's going to sell for, why don't we all just shut up until we know for sure. If everyone keeps screaming that $80 is a great deal and someone from Hyper-whatever reads it, guess how much it's going to cost???? $80, what a surprise. How bout I jump on the bandwagon and get about 10 or 20 other members to say they will buy it at $150 ? It's common sense people, don't drive the price up before it's even been officially announced. Here's where my logic stands on this, I can buy a 2600 for around $30-50 (just look on eBay). I can then buy a cheap AV mod kit for $10 (again, just look on eBay). I now have between $40 and $60 in an original Atari that will work with any TV I'm likely to own. These prices are FACTS, you can look them up. Now, that's original hardware. THEN, emulators are FREE! So, if I can use free emulators or original hardware, why would I pay more than $40 for this? I wouldn't. You know what, now that I think about it, everyone can go ahead and throw around how much they are willing to pay, because I just realized I don't need this thing as long as I can get a REAL 2600. I'd like to say "Thanks" to all the $80 people who helped me realize I'm not interested in this thing!

I have probably 60 carts that I'd like to replace the labels on, but having them professionally done is cost prohibitive and I don't own a printer (or have the money to buy ink, etc.) So my options are limited at the moment. I did find a local print shop who did some vintage R2-D2 figure stickers for me on weather proof paper for a VERY reasonable price. If I recall correctly, it was about $5 to do enough stickers to restore 48 R2-D2 figures to displayable condition.. So, When I do decide to replace some labels on my 2600 carts, that's the way I'll go. I'd suggest checking local print shops to see if any of them would do a small batch of labels for you. It might not cost too much and the quality would far exceed anything you could print at home. if they have the ability to cut the labels too, that would be worth the extra money to know you had nice straight lines and neat corners.

Just found this thread tonight. I'm really interested in this game. I'd like to know where it stands at the moment. How about an Update?

I love my old Atari, but I'm in when this gets released, anything that helps keep Atari alive and kicking is worth throwing some money at. That's coming from a guy whose income is so limited that he doesn't even own a cell phone or have cable/satellite.

I'm not one to answer on the value of a rare cart with a new label, but in my opinion, a new label is always better than no label or one that's more or less destroyed. When it comes to most games, buying nice new labels costs more than the cart, but If it's a cart you intend to keep and play, I say do what you want to it. There are a couple of people on the forums who make really nice repro labels, even foil ones. If you don't mind spending the money, they are well worth it to freshen up the look of old carts. Of course, you can print them yourself too, but for durability, I would go with one of the guys who does it here on the forums.

I love the idea of this. As far as what games are a must, Medieval Mayhem. No doubt about it. As far as other games, I find that Combat or any two player game is fun when you have 2 or more people, of course. I've tried to do things like this in the past, but where I live, there aren't many people interested in things that I consider to be "fun"... While I was helping out at the comic & collectables store in town, I ran into a guy who had been doing D&D with the same group of people since they had been in school together. At least once a year they all travel from different stats and meet at his house to play. That's dedication to a game and to your friends. Not many people I know would make a trip like that. I'm not talking about single people either, these people all have kids and some even grand children and they bring them along! When I was a kid, it was rare if we even went to visit family if they were more than 30 minutes away! I wish you the best of luck with the "Atari Party".

I have the same issue on my Revision 12, 4 switcher 2600. Mine looks more purple than blue and I also have a green line on the other side. I have AV modded mine and added the "tune-up kit" (caps and voltage regulator, etc.) I was working on the assumption that this line should fall outside of the viewing area on CRT tvs. I hadn't thought to see if my 7800 has the same lines or not. As a matter of fact, I think I mentioned this in one of my threads not too long ago. I don't remember if I got an answer about it or not.

Thomas, I know there are always a few bad apples in every bunch, so I expected there would be drama from time to time. I'm by no means leaving the site or the forums. I'm just done trying to add anything to this thread, since it's clear that the "bad apples" seem to be falling right on top of it.. I joined the forums to talk to people who, like me, are interested in keeping this iconic piece of video game history alive, I'll just have to ignore the people who want to rain on the parade.

I'm going to drop out of this discussion now. I feel like too many people are misunderstanding (or intentionally misusing) this thread. The developers don't "OWE" anyone here ANYTHING! Stop with that crap! The point I wanted to get across is that everyone should have the opportunity to BUY a copy of a rom from the developer for a reasonable price, so everyone gains something. I thought the members here were a community and would come together on this subject, not argue. Now there are people complaining and throwing insults around. This isn't what this was supposed to be about..... Enjoy the bickering, I'm done with this thread.

Currently the only computer I have availible is my tablet. I can't find an Android version of Stella. Update, I now have my old Windows XP laptop up and running, but I'm not sure for how long. it has a very noisy hard drive and I don't think the fan is working anymore, LOL I'm installing Stella right now. We'll see if it runs long enough to accomplish anything.

Look for Bifrost. It's the same game, just different graphics. Being a fan of the Evil Dead and Army of Darkness movies, I was disappointed too, but I enjoy playing Bifrost anyway. Also, you might try looking up the developer and contacting them, it never hurts to ask.