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A PAL version of Robotron is on my (long) list of projects to do. I'm also thinking about a PAL version of Rampage.
Given you can buy an NTSC to PAL converter for around $30, why would you spend your valuable programming time/talent converting these?
because the converters don't work very well+you would need to buy and import an NTSC 7800
Better option then using converter is to buy NTSC 7800 and compatible TV set. Many PAL TV's can work in NTSC mode as well. Converter just make PAL signal with NTSC signal by skipping some frames as I suppose, what can result in less fluent animation.
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There's none left on ebay and I don't understand Polish. Are there any left that I could get directly? Do you take Paypal?
Three copies which was not sold on Allegro left. Two of them I just put on Ebay.
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Does anybody received a package? Some should have arrived till now.
I got mine a little over a week ago. Box was a little crushed, but not too bad.
I just loaded onto my MyIDE cart as an image. It looks like it works. I have not played with it much yet.
I was writing to you on PM, but with no answer. Please let me know what ebay nick is yours because i don't know where to send a new box.
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I believe 7800 pads connect both buttons to the Pot (paddle) inputs as well as the normal Trig input.
Supposedly the 7800 itself supplies a pullup voltage which is weak (2600) or strong (7800 mode) which alters the way they work dependant on the console mode at the time.
IIRC, both buttons will return Trig values on the computer but not alter the paddle values (and same case for a 2600 and probably most other computers that use Atari controllers).
From memory, the 7800 controllers only differ in that they have resistors between the buttons and paddle inputs. I don't have any schematic, but I guess there should be one somewhere.
The problem you'll likely encounter is that practically no standard Atari type joystick will have the wires supplied for the Pot inputs, so you'd need to make up new cables in addition to the added circuitry.
Of course, you could just take the cable from a 7800 pad which would make the job somewhat easier.
I was googling and serchead this forum as well, but do not find schematics.
I know that I'll have to replace cords and plugs. I just going to buy a cable in electronic shop and standard rs232 plugs to make new cables, because I don't want to destroy the joypads.
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Does anybody received a package? Some should have arrived till now.
I got mine a little over a week ago. Box was a little crushed, but not too bad.
I just loaded onto my MyIDE cart as an image. It looks like it works. I have not played with it much yet.
Was the inner game box sqashed as well, or only the outside box? Can you send some photos of it? I can replace it by sending you a new one.
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I'm serching for schematics how to mod a standard Atari XL/XE compatible joystick to work with 7800. Does anybody has it or maybe know where can it be found?
I want to mod a pair of joysticks because using a joypad is not very comfortable for me. After a 15-20 minutes of playing my left thumb usually hurts so much that I have to make a break. I'm just not used to such a controller. My kids also can't play on joypads, because it is to big for their small hands (4 and 6 years old). I've got plenty of old joystick from Atari XL/XE computers
Some game like Galaga can be palyed on Joystick and this is far better than a pad, but I want to have a possibility to play all the games, including 2-button games, using a joystick.
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I don't know why Robotron 2084 was never released in PAL version, but its a real shame, as it is a really great game. I wonder if it would be difficult to make a PAL version of the game and reproduce such a cart, considering that source code is available here.
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Plutos and Sirius are still available to buy?
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Well I've just spent 2 hours loosing again!!!
12,940,340 - I think the point is to grow as fast as possible in the early years.
Yes! Growing you colony as fast as possibile especially in early years is defintely key to success. Forget about earning money in the first 6-7 years, just invest everything in more factories, labs, airstrips, building machines, etc. Good advice is always to have much more people than you currently need, because when you colony grow fast there is need for more people in almost every turn, but people are not always available. Even when you hire new colonists you have to wait until they pass a quarantine. When I play usually after 5-6 years I have all area explored and all the resources I am extracting is not enough. My factories consumes more than that, not speaking about resources needed to build up colony. In that moment I'm investing in big warehouses and airstripes and buy every resources there is available to buy. In warehouses I keep reserve for keepeng production for about 3 months, and rest of it I spend for building up a colony. Good advice is to have about 1.5-2 more airstripes than factories in order to be able sell all the production and buy raw materials to continue production run.
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For me Galaga is one of the best 7800 games if not the best one. Graphics are good, sound also is OK. Animation is smooth and gameplay is very close to the arcade version. If someone camplain about difficulty - there is 3 difficulty levels. The third one is as difficult as arcade. Other are for noobs who could complaint that it is too difficult for them
. The only real thing about this version is the graphics. Altough it is very good, NES had better graphics and I think this is a case of most complaints. NES Galaga runs in high resolution what make graphics look just arcade perfect. There is a little sprite flicker sometimes on NES version though, but it is no big deal.
For me 7800 Galaga is good enough and I don't care about graphics beeng slightly worse then in NES. I'm afraid that if Galaga were running in hi-res it could be worse game as it is, becouse it can loose smoothness and gameplay. There is known that rendering hi-res mode cost Maria a lot of it's power. I'm not sure if 7800 has enough power to run a smooth action in this mode.
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Ordered mine a couple of days ago, hope to get it soon, as the whole package looks great.
Does anybody received a package? Some should have arrived till now.
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Does it run on NTSC A8's?
Yes
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I have put two more copies. No problem with shipping Worldwide. If there will remain some of the copies from Allegro, then I can put it on Ebay as well.
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About 10 last pieces of Kolony 2106 collectors edition have left. I put few of them on Ebay auctions.
Few others are available on polish auction service Allegro:
http://allegro.pl/item1181116999_kolony_2106_edycja_kolekcjonerska.html
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I've bought a 7800 console (PAL) and now I'm looking for some games for it. I prefer loose cart, as I'm not a collectioner, but just want to play some games and have fun of it, but might buy boxed versions too if the price is fair. I'm looking especially for classic positions like:
Galaga
Centipede
Food Fight
Dig Dug
Pacman
Ms. Pacman
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong jr
Mario Bros
Planet Smashers
Tower Toppler
Crossbow
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I wonder what was the differences between 7800 models. As what i've read recently i assume that (correct me if I'm wrong):
1. Only early NTSC models have expansion port.
2. NTSC models has "thin rainbow" design, and PAL models "thick rainbow" design
3. Only PAL models have Asteroids game built in
4. NTSC models comes bundled with joystick-like controlers similar in shape and design to 5200 controlers, whilst PAL models comes with nes-like pads
Are there any other differences between various models?
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Desert Falcon looks good, especially compared with rather poor Atari XE version. Ballblazer - Pokey chip inside, but music do not impress me at all. I'm an Atari XE user and I've heard hundreds of much better tunes. Maybe that's the reason. I'd say it is a waste to put Pokey chip inside, only in order to play this music.
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I'm curious which are most graphically and technically advanced A7800 games. I wonder what A7800 is capable to do with its hardware. As I see Alien Brigade looks good - colorful graphics, nice animations. Commando looks as advanced game too - many sprites, colorful graphics as well. Basketbrawl is also impressive with huge sprite characters, and nice use of colors. Any other types?
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I never could understand why there was never a Pal version of Robotron 2084, seemed a bit mental to me. I wish somebody would hack it to Pal and do a cart release.
Other games not released in Pal:
Rampage - Activision (another I can't understand)
Water Ski - Froggo
Tank Command - Froggo
I don't think there are any others but I could be wrong. Its also worth noting that all these games work fine on a Pal 7800.
So NTSC Rampage works fine on PAL machine?
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I'm new owner of the mighty 7800 console
and I wonder which games weren't released in PAL. I've heard that Robotron has no PAL version 
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Atari 7800 was beaten by NES and even by SMS, but... 7800 was the only console which could possibly save the world from NES domination. In 1984 it was an excellent piece of hardware. In 1986 it was already too late, due to nintendo's contracts. But even than Atari was doing nothing to promote it. Tramiel didn't want to spend money on promotion, instead he cut the price of the unit as low as possible. Console sales were not so bad as many thinks - they manage to sell about 3750000 in total. But for cheap console nobody want to produce good (expensive) games. Many games were projected to 32 kb cartridges, which results in poor quality. Tramiel wasn't interested in consoles and didn't want to put money and effort in promotion or development. Result of such an attitude we know...
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Pretty much no, there are a couple of exceptions but not worth bothering about.
Your best option would be to place a want add in the marketplace here, or try your luck on ebay UK/DE/FR.......
Anything you are looking for? I may be able to help as I am selling pretty much all my 7800 stuff
So cartridges bouhgt in United States will not work with my console? Thanks God I asked before buying
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I've just bought my first Atari 7800 console. Its completly new system for me. I have some Atari XL/XE computers so far and one STE machine. 7800 is the first game console I've bougt in my life. So I have some question. Console is marked as PAL B. I dont have any games for it so far. Here in Poland were I live it is very hard to find anything for this console. I consider spotting some cartridges on Ebay and I wonder if cartridges bought for example in United States will work with my console and PAL TV set.
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I am using such an interface with my 1040 STE and it works perfectly. I bought PS/2 version and I'm using it with A4tech optical mouse. This interfaces are great things. I really recommend it.
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PAL 7800 Assist?
in Atari 7800
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I can test it, but i live just on the other side of the Globe
in Poland. But if it work I can buy it cart from you, because I don't have it in my collection now.