Tyrant

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No, you should both wait until you hit level 63/64 ish and get Mirrors... now they're just plain wrong.

and the way they all use the shading in similar ways, they look very similar, look "very Jaguar" to me

It would apear, from his ebay history, that he originally bought one of my controllers second hand from Atari Smeghead, and is now selling cloned copies of it, which if you ask me is rather impolite, if not nescessarily illegal or dishonest (he makes no claims as to their origins, and infact provides very little information about them at all on the auctions). The knob does look identical yes, but its a very common design available from a number of shops, I would be interested to know what kind of encoder mechanism he's using, and how its all coonected, but I suspect its the exact same one... makes me think I should have burred the numbers off the back of them to prevent this kind of thing. Suffice it to say that these are not my controllers, but apear to be exact copies, which I am very unhappy about and shall be contacting him. While the basic concept is public knowladge (a simple wiring plan is in the Jaguar FAQ), the specific design of my controllers took me quite some time and effort to work out, and while neither officially copyrighted or pattented, remains my intelectual property and I am not pleased with it being blatently copied in this manner.

You havnt? odd... the stub has to exist in memory somewhere, it can either be the lower bits of the alpine's ram (where the header goes) or a low area of the Jag's ram... by default it'll run from the alpine, but holding A will get it to run in the Jag's ram... if you overwrite either one you'll cause the stub to crash, thus loosing the ability to communicate with the debugger and possably also crashing the Jag... Im quite amazed that you've managed to upload files with headers while running the stub out of the header area of the alpine, I've never managed.

It sounds like you need to re-seat the connector board, which is just a very simple pcb with an edge connector at each end, one inside the JagCD itself, and one extending down and plugging into the Jaguar. If that gets pushed too far into the JagCD, it wont make contact any more and it needs to be pulled down a bit.

Hehe, yes, you, and no, I dont think (or understand) swedish, unfortunatly. <twisted> Regarding bitplanes, if Im remembering how they worked properly, then it should be easily possible to get the Jag to use them. By using 4 rmw 1 bit objects, with carefully picked colours one could maek a close and fast aproximation, but it wouldnt behave exactly like bitplanes, but, it would behave the way most bitplane effects behaved. For true bitplane emulation you need to blit the 4 bitplanes together to make a 4 or 8 bit image before sending it off to the op, the blitter can do the expansion of the pixels, and set the required bits (by filling the pattern data reg with the solid colour for that bitplane), but Im not sure if it can do so with a logical or with the other bitplanes... Im not explaining this well, Im tired, if anyone dosnt get it, ask, but, suffice it to say, it should be possible to do a bitplane based screen with up to 8 bitplanes and only one additional (phrase mode) blit per bitplane, or perhaps two, depending if the blitter can do the expansion with an or, or two if it has to do it with a replace. </twisted> The nice thing about Jaguar is how adaptable it is, with a little thought, it can do virtually anything you ask of it.

my mailbox should be able to cope with the entire 4mb pdf if you like, and thanks, thats very phunky I've long thought we should get into long email chats, you think the way I do, I think

Interesting I cant say Im overly fond of cry... its a nice enough format, but it dosnt seem too well thought out. having white in the center of the square is quite a trouble if you want to use rmw for coloured lighting... I'd have prefered a cut down hsl model, but we're stuck with the hardware atari left us. Not that cry dosnt have its advantages...

I give up, making jokes around here is nigh on impossible.

I dont think anyone would try to do the conversions on the jag itself, that'd just be silly, especially since as you mentioned you can use the hybrid rgb15/cry15 mode, and mix and match at will. The only reason to need to do any kind of colour conversion on the Jag itself is if you want to use a new colour model, such as hue/sat/lum... but even that can be done with only a little playing about *evil grin*. Jaguar has some pretty nice hardware imvho, I just wish it had hardware alpha blending (no, rmw is not alpha, and needs lots of thought to be able to use well) Hmm... I suppose another reason for colour conversion on the Jag itself is if you were trying to write another version of crypick, there are already at least two, the atari one, and another, by Matthias if Im not mistaken. I dont think the scanned manual that I have differs at all in the colour mapping section from techref v8, and I dont remember seeing any actual code for a conversion, but its described well enough that with a little thought and playing about it should be easy to understand.

Do car dealerships in Milwaukee really care about paying royalty to a long dead (and zombiefied) company?

I started working out a tool a while ago, I only did a very quick and unoptimised algo for it, copied/pasted the tables from techref v8, did some search/replace to turn them into an array, and then just did an unoptimised search of the lookup tables to find the closest match. It was slow, but worked, I've never got any further on the tool however hehe, terminal lazyness set in (and I decided tga2cry will do for now). If you look at the diagrams of the colour space, and compare them to the physical layout of the lookup tables, you should with a little trial and error be able to work it out fairly easily. Its not that hard, once you kinda "snap" into seeing things the way they should be seen... if that makes any sense at all hehe. The dev manual explains the process, in both directions cry>rgb and rgb>cry, but its not exactly what you'd call easy to understand. But, as I said, once you look at the lookup tables, and compare them to the colour space diagrams, you'll "snap" into enlightenment, write a little tool, and if you have a dev kit its easy enough to upload the results of your conversions and see how they look, so trial and error isnt that hard. Of course there is always the tga2cry tool, and the JagTool, but I assume if you need the algo, you must be trying to create your own new and improved tool?

I used to use a simple batch file to make my main file, which included all the other files, but then I decided it was a silly way to do things and went looking for a proper make tool that didnt crash. I couldnt find a dos binary of gnu make, so I downloaded the source, then went to get djgpp (gnu c compiler and other tools for dos) to compile it with, and found there was a binary of make packaged with it lol. I do so adore make, the way it can do such cool things as rebuilding a tga into an object, via tga2cry outputting as source, then deleting the source afterwards, and only rebuild when you change the tga... phunky stuff

That's just a CLASSIC remark! Hall of fame...I'm going to saying that over and over to myself... class. Regards, JustClaws. Indeed, what a freak, nobody could EVER need more than 640kb, now could they? For the humor impaired, that was a joke, for the non technical, it was at microsoft's expense.

Agreed, shame it never turned into a kit available to buy, would make an interesting dev system, one jaguar writing code for another

Now where can we get a job lot of handlebar moustashes ? and some monacles? I think I may only need some wax for that, not that I've tried lol. Then again I wont be attending, severe lack of money and absolute lack of making any kind of plans are to blame. At the end of this years event, put up the details for next years, so we all have plenty of time to prepare and get excited about it etc. Also, a two day event would be more motivation to go, as its a bit of a trek for many people to make just for one day.

Yes you can, infact in story mode you are forced to, but, AvP2 PC UTTERLY FAILED to capture the atmosphere there was in the first one, and even in the Jaguar version. It feels more like a movie on dvd that you can pause when you like, since aliens only ever come at you in pre-scripted waves, triggered by VERY obvious actions you perform, once you've done a section once and died, you know exactly what to expect the next time over, and although aliens can kill you fairly easily, it still feels more like quake than AvP, there just isnt the terror there was in AvP1 PC. Then again, I've never tried either 1 or 2 in multiplayer, which I suspect would feel very different, yes, you know there are humans controling the aliens, but that makes them intelegent and harder to predict, and thus kill. Even though I know the levels on AvP1 PC, Im still too scared to play it as a marine for more than one level without a break, no other game has EVER done that, so I'll stick with that methinks.

All these huge empty boxes are making me jelous lol, there's not exactly lots of space inside a standard Jag controller lol.

I use an off the shelf mechanical (not optical) encoder for mine, but I'd rather not give out part numbers or specific details as I do still plan on making more of them. The basic idea is outlined well in the Jaguar FAQ however.

Guess I got confused cause someone was asking about UK retailers.

The issue isnt how big the wheel is, but how many teeth it has, and it dosnt seem to talk about that on either type. However, its talking about interfacing it to a pc running mame, so I'd assume it has roughly as many teeth as your average mouse, which is too many. But, as I just said, it shouldnt be that hard to make your own wheel

It shouldnt be TOoooooo dificult to make a custom wheel, depending on the assembly of your encoder (which you obviously cant tell until you buy one really. It dosnt need to be metal, a bit of stiff black card would do, with the teeth cut out (just remember to make the solid bits the same width as the gaps between them). Another issue you may run into with an optical rotary is that the wheel is spinning faster than the Jag can read it, which would lead to you apearing to stand still or move backwards (or just jump about a bit). Again, if you can, make a custom wheel, shouldnt be too hard, and would make a great project to write up for us all to copy

YES! Infact get the scart one as it has rgb on it as well as composite, then laugh at all the poor US people who dont have scart sockets

Aww thanx Shameless self promotion dosnt compare to third party recomendations like this, makes one feel all warm and fuzzy Hmm... that apears to be optical. You may not get the results you're expecting with that unless you build a custom encoder wheel with less teeth, as most optical encoders will be stupidly over-sensitive for a Jaguar. The ones I use are mechanical but have 36 steps, you might want to aim for something close to that as it seems to me at least to be the perfect level, not too sensitive, so you can move slowly, but nice and responsive when you want to move quickly too. I've only once played on a JediJeff one (which are optical), but it was a very different expierence as the sensitivity was so high. Good luck getting a nice price for it. Given all the emails I've had recently asking for them, demand is high, and I've been unable to make any new ones for a while, so you'll hopefully get a good price. A shame you have to sell stuff, money is evil stuff.