OldAtarian

Yeah, it cleans off easy enough with a little dish washing liquid solution, it's just the idea that almost every piece of equipment I get lately is encrusted with it. It's not the yellowing from age, either, because most of the time it cleans up close to the original white or with just slight yellowing. It also gets built up on the chrome, like on the tops of the function keys where the keys are all brown except for round spots in the middle where they were repeatedly pressed down. Seeing how dirty they are on the outside makes me afraid to open them up to clean the inside sometimes.

The red button may be a Joystick/Trak Ball switch. The two little switches may be a modification and work as fire buttons. You could plug it in and do some BASIC stuff to see if it works, in joystick mode, don't know how TRAK BALL mode from BASIC. 10 X=STICK(0) 20 Y=STRIG(0) 30 ? X,Y 40 GOTO 10 It's a CX-22, so it has the joystick/trackball switch on the side, though it could have been relocated by someone for convenience. That tiny little switch can be hard to trip for someone with fat fingers.

Have you ever encountered this? You pick up an 800XL, 1050, or 1010, and it arrives all covered with dirty brown gunk. It's not cigarette smoke gunk, or spilled coffee gunk, just dirty gunk. It seems most of the XL stuff I get lately is plagued with the stuff.

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The picture of Khalid Rosie Shiek O'Donnell Muhammed gives that away.

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... So, if you find an Air Raid in the wild at a flea market and it is marked $5.00, do you give the seller $2500.00 or just pay the $5.00 and keep your mouth shut? I would pay the $5.00 and then proceed to the hospital to shock my heart back into rhythm It's a different situation when a dealer makes you an offer for something you have. The dealer does this for a living and knows how much it's worth and what a fair offer is. If he makes you an offer that is too low because he knows you don't know any better he is basically stealing from you. A low ball offer gives the person with the item the false impression that the item isn't worth as much as it really it is. Lowballing is no different from flat out telling someone to their face that their item is worthless when it really is valuable. As a dealer, he has a moral and ethical (and in some jurisdictions a legal) obligation to make a fair offer. If a seller puts a cart worth $100 in the 50 cent box, however, I'm not under any obligation to pay him any more than the price as marked, the legal presumption being that a dealer knows how to price his stock, and that is the law almost everywhere. OldAtarian's Great Book of Ethics and Morals just gets more confusing the deeper I get. So the morals change based on which side of the sales counter you are standing on? Wow. Say you have a local game store and the owner knows all about the value of Atari games, but his teenage help doesn't know crap. You go into the store when the owner isn't around and see an Air Raid cartridge mismarked at $50 instead of $5000. If you buy this cart knowing the owner would never sell it at that amount then you are just fine, but if the seller tries to buy it back from you at that price he will be Satan's footstool for all of eternity? I really need you to line this out exactly for me point by point. I won't buy another game until I see all the rules. It is way too risky. I didn't know somebody could steal from you by making an offer without lying and with you willingly accepting said offer. Amazing. I really want you to point me to the laws that show I will go to jail by making a lowball offer on an Atari game. Jail sounds better than Hell, but I don't want to serve time in either place. Look up any set of laws governing pawn brokers or antiques dealers. In many jurisdictions the robbing of customers by making unfair offers is clearly covered. Awesome. I always wanted to be a Pawn Broker or an Antiques dealer. Now according to you, I guess I am!!! Yay!!! We are all Pawn Brokers now fellas!!! Oh no man... I just did some looking and I can't find anything that says Antiques dealers can't legally pay you whatever they want for your goods. I thiink you were wrong. I can't believe it either. It seems they are only required to tell you fair market value if you are asking for an appraisal. I am going to have to look harder at this whole 60% thing. I am beginning to think there might be some holes in you logic. I didn't say 60% was a statutory obligation, dumbass, I just said that 60% was fair, and YES pawn brokers and dealers ARE regulated and can't just rip off people for their own profit. And explain to me what the difference is between me telling you your rare Atari game isn't worth much and offering you $10 for it or me just offering you the $10 without saying anything about it's value? In both cases you are left with the impression that your game isn't worth much, so lowballing is the same thing as lying about the value. The only difference is that by not talking about the value, the dealer covers his ass if he's hauled into court because the seller can't say "He told me it was worth $X."

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... So, if you find an Air Raid in the wild at a flea market and it is marked $5.00, do you give the seller $2500.00 or just pay the $5.00 and keep your mouth shut? I would pay the $5.00 and then proceed to the hospital to shock my heart back into rhythm It's a different situation when a dealer makes you an offer for something you have. The dealer does this for a living and knows how much it's worth and what a fair offer is. If he makes you an offer that is too low because he knows you don't know any better he is basically stealing from you. A low ball offer gives the person with the item the false impression that the item isn't worth as much as it really it is. Lowballing is no different from flat out telling someone to their face that their item is worthless when it really is valuable. As a dealer, he has a moral and ethical (and in some jurisdictions a legal) obligation to make a fair offer. If a seller puts a cart worth $100 in the 50 cent box, however, I'm not under any obligation to pay him any more than the price as marked, the legal presumption being that a dealer knows how to price his stock, and that is the law almost everywhere. What the hell are you talking about? I was being sarcastic, any sane Atari collector who found an Air Raid for $5.00 would keep their mouth shut pay the $5.00 marked on it and then go home and whack off! And you would be right to do so. I said, if a seller marks something too low, you aren't under any obligation to pay him any more than that, or can't you read? Maybe you've been whacking off a little too much and it's affecting your eyesight.

You only have 45 days to open a case against the seller for non-delivery and ebay's CS reps sometimes check if you left a negative feedback before filing a claim so it behooves the seller to make sure the item reaches the buyer before then because ebay may decide to refund the buyers money while the item is still in transit. Shipping an item from Venezuela to the US or Canada by the slow method is a sure way to get negged and lose any claims filed against you. They shouldn't even allow the buyer the option.

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... So, if you find an Air Raid in the wild at a flea market and it is marked $5.00, do you give the seller $2500.00 or just pay the $5.00 and keep your mouth shut? I would pay the $5.00 and then proceed to the hospital to shock my heart back into rhythm It's a different situation when a dealer makes you an offer for something you have. The dealer does this for a living and knows how much it's worth and what a fair offer is. If he makes you an offer that is too low because he knows you don't know any better he is basically stealing from you. A low ball offer gives the person with the item the false impression that the item isn't worth as much as it really it is. Lowballing is no different from flat out telling someone to their face that their item is worthless when it really is valuable. As a dealer, he has a moral and ethical (and in some jurisdictions a legal) obligation to make a fair offer. If a seller puts a cart worth $100 in the 50 cent box, however, I'm not under any obligation to pay him any more than the price as marked, the legal presumption being that a dealer knows how to price his stock, and that is the law almost everywhere. OldAtarian's Great Book of Ethics and Morals just gets more confusing the deeper I get. So the morals change based on which side of the sales counter you are standing on? Wow. Say you have a local game store and the owner knows all about the value of Atari games, but his teenage help doesn't know crap. You go into the store when the owner isn't around and see an Air Raid cartridge mismarked at $50 instead of $5000. If you buy this cart knowing the owner would never sell it at that amount then you are just fine, but if the seller tries to buy it back from you at that price he will be Satan's footstool for all of eternity? I really need you to line this out exactly for me point by point. I won't buy another game until I see all the rules. It is way too risky. I didn't know somebody could steal from you by making an offer without lying and with you willingly accepting said offer. Amazing. I really want you to point me to the laws that show I will go to jail by making a lowball offer on an Atari game. Jail sounds better than Hell, but I don't want to serve time in either place. Look up any set of laws governing pawn brokers or antiques dealers. In many jurisdictions the robbing of customers by making unfair offers is clearly covered.

Antiques and collectibles are also a special case. They are a special case because they generally tend to go up in value, so a dealer doesn't have to worry about losing money because if he doesn't sell it right away, he marks it up as it increases in value so he effectively gets a higher profit margin just for holding something for a while before he sells it.

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... If you're going to sell a game for $5,000 the least you could offer for it is $3,000 or is $2,000 profit for an ebay listing that you didn't even have to do any work for besides type a blurb and take a picture not enough for you? Oh ok, so are you saying the limit is $2000 lower? If you go more than $2000 lower you are a crook right? So anything worth $2000 or less is fair game right? Or are we going percentages here? 60% of OldAtarian's book value? Anything less than this and I go to that special place in hell right? I just really want to figure this all out. Hell doesn't sound fun at all. Also, does this only apply to something intended to be resold? What if I wanted a Video Life for my collection, but all I could afford was $10? Do I offer my max of $10, or will that tighten Satan's grasp on my weak soul? If the $10 offer is acceptable in OldAtarian's ever so perfect eyes do I need to take contact info from the seller in case I decide to sell later so I can send them the $2990 that is rightfully their's? Since you're on the subject, remember the guy who bought a boxed copy of Waterworld for $10 recently? If he offered $10 but the seller wanted $300, the seller could refuse to sell at that price but because the seller only wanted $10 to start with, he becomes obligated to sell at that price as soon as the BIN is pressed.

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... If you're going to sell a game for $5,000 the least you could offer for it is $3,000 or is $2,000 profit for an ebay listing that you didn't even have to do any work for besides type a blurb and take a picture not enough for you? Oh ok, so are you saying the limit is $2000 lower? If you go more than $2000 lower you are a crook right? So anything worth $2000 or less is fair game right? Or are we going percentages here? 60% of OldAtarian's book value? Anything less than this and I go to that special place in hell right? I just really want to figure this all out. Hell doesn't sound fun at all. A 40% profit margin is more than generous, and many retailers thrive on margins substantially less than this.

Hey. I am Canadian...its all free Seen your tax bill lately? NOTHING is ever free, and as you get older your "FREE" healthcare will gradually turn into "NO" healthcare when you become too expensive to keep alive.

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... So, if you find an Air Raid in the wild at a flea market and it is marked $5.00, do you give the seller $2500.00 or just pay the $5.00 and keep your mouth shut? I would pay the $5.00 and then proceed to the hospital to shock my heart back into rhythm It's a different situation when a dealer makes you an offer for something you have. The dealer does this for a living and knows how much it's worth and what a fair offer is. If he makes you an offer that is too low because he knows you don't know any better he is basically stealing from you. A low ball offer gives the person with the item the false impression that the item isn't worth as much as it really it is. Lowballing is no different from flat out telling someone to their face that their item is worthless when it really is valuable. As a dealer, he has a moral and ethical (and in some jurisdictions a legal) obligation to make a fair offer. If a seller puts a cart worth $100 in the 50 cent box, however, I'm not under any obligation to pay him any more than the price as marked, the legal presumption being that a dealer knows how to price his stock, and that is the law almost everywhere.

It is the onus of the seller to figure what something is worth before they sell it. Nobody forced anybody to accept the store owner's offer. It's still dishonest for a buyer to offer $10 for a game that he knows he can get thousands for. There's a special corner in hell set aside for people like that. Where do you draw the line? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it everyone's moral responsibility to pay everyone full price for everything? I understand not ripping off some mentally handicapped person or a little kid, but if someone is just too lazy to do their due diligence.... If you're going to sell a game for $5,000 the least you could offer for it is $3,000 or is $2,000 profit for an ebay listing that you didn't even have to do any work for besides type a blurb and take a picture not enough for you?

It better be on DVD because I'm not paying $29.99 for a download.

Too bad the description is misleading. The 4000 production model was the one with the built in cassette player that cost them a fortune to produce, not this one. This is probably just the Australian unit from the video that someone imported and may not be any rarer than any other ECS module.

Homebrew?

You really think Supercharger values are going to fall?

M.A.D.

I hesitated to use that one because it's being played on a power base adapter for the Genesis and I didn't want anyone saying that the Genesis hardware automatically corrects any of the annoying qualities of the older SMS games. Even in that video, though, the problem is still mainly with overlapping sprites. If I was going to play it on a Genesis, I'd just get the Genesis version as it's very close to perfect.

Or maybe the flickering wasn't as bad as you remember? Still, I'll try to find more videos just to make you happy. Somebody has already backed me up that thats being played on a emu with flicker turned off and that the music is wrong. Read up. And I played it very recently and the flicker is shocking. I can't find a video that is just gameplay without commentary, but the one I did find that is definitely played on hardware does flicker a bit in some places, but most of the time only when two sprites try to occupy the same space at the same time but it's not bad at all. It definitely doesn't flicker as bad as some 2600 games. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnlsYYSQUl8 And don't tell me this is an emulator, too, because you can clearly see the scanlines on the television this is being played on.

Or maybe the flickering wasn't as bad as you remember? Still, I'll try to find more videos just to make you happy.

Is the BIOS chip at least socketed, or is major surgery required? It might be easier just to get a 4 port if you don't already have one to run those games.

I'll believe it when I see a gameplay video.