OldAtarian

I have a 400 with 32k and another with 64k and a 800 style keyboard replacement.

Functionally, probably not. It's not like modern devices where you need drivers for them. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were both made by the same company just with different packaging to distinguish them from each other. I'm pretty sure I have both of them here someplace but haven't used them in a long time. I'd have to find them and check. I'm also pretty sure all touch tablet software recognizes both of them.

So does anyone still do repairs? I have a 600XL and an 800XL neither of which have worked since I got them but both are complete and clean and I'd like to find someone who can fix them.

They work if you have the adapter boards that came with them. You may have the boards loose or installed in some machines that you have. It's hard to imagine you having so many of them and not getting the boards or machines with the boards installed in them. If I had a truck and the time to drive to make a coast to coast trip I'd drive out and pick them up myself but such is not the case, unfortunately.

Hmmm...I'm going to try an experiment. Will report back with results as soon as the parts get here.

Well, even if they had all gone over to the 65816, where do you go from there? There was never a successor to the 65816, so it would have just been another dead end. I think maybe a better option would have been for each company to include a "halfway" computer, that used a 68000, but also had a 6502 for compatibility with the previous generation. Apple actually did this via an add-on card. (Also, you might want to check out the C-65... it was never released, but there are some protos out there, and MESS can emulate it. It's a very advanced C-64 with some features that bring it awfully close to the Amiga line!) I think the bigger problem for all three companies was trying to advance their 16-bit machines. Apple was the only one with a clear upgrade path. The Amiga kept throwing up roadblocks with incompatible expansion ports, and different graphics architectures that forced you to buy a whole new machine. The Atari ST seemed to hit a wall trying to grow beyond the 68000, and even when it did, the TT and Falcon seemed to only attract the hardcore fans of the platform. The fact that so much software was written directly for aging hardware made it much harder for the platforms to grow, while PC stuff was standardized enough that you could often just swap out a single part without affecting your older software, and without having to junk the whole machine and start over. --Zero There was never a successor to the 65816 because there were no customers for the 65816. The Super Nintendo and Apple IIGS were the two most prominent machines to use it. Had there been a larger market for the 65816 then there would have been a 32 bit successor, and in fact, there was a 65832 developed but never produced. Someone on 6502.org claims to have documentation of the chip. http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?t=1366 Scroll down to the post by TMorita

Giving Apple IIs away to schools years prior was a really wise move for Apple; it established their dominance as an "education" computer, familiarized the brand name with school administrators across America, etc. That, and the aggressive improvements! When the Mac II came out, I remember it was kind of eye-opening. Atari was considered a game machine brand, even if they'd have put a Cray in a little box. As for Commodore, I don't know.....Some schools used them (when they couldn't afford Apples) but not many. It's funny how Tramiel let the arcade division go to Midway, discontinued all video game projects declaring "We're a computer company now!" and as soon as the NES is released scrambles to get the 7800 onto the market. So much for abolishing Atari's "games machine" image. It's ironic that they dumped computers altogether to focus on the Jaguar, literally putting all their eggs in one basket, and when that failed it was the end, Tramiels "computer company" being brought down by the "games machines" that he hated so much. Games built Atari and games killed Atari.

It's because Steve Jobs is an artist, not an engineer.

I wouldn't imagine there were many programs written to take advantage of the STe stereo outputs. That was one of the big weaknesses of the STe, the developers kept coding for the lowest common denominator which was a 512k 520ST with single sided floppy drive. There's not too much software that requires you to have more than that to use it.

See what you can pick out of this photo (Apart from the Atari stuff) and let me know what it is. I got all this stuff at a garage sale and have no idea what most of it is. I know it's music related but that's all.

We'll all be watching our televisions for news of your arrest. Man bangs shoe on checkout counter at WalMart. Film at 11.

Alex can put in the socket needed to do that if you've got something like an AdSpeed or T-series accelerator to do it with. He's socketed a couple of ST's for me. Oh so they can't put in a 16mhz 68000 and change the clocks to 16mhz?

I wouldn't pay $50 for it. The old style brown cart for the 400/800 is exactly the same game and those are dirt cheap. Everybody seems to have one for sale on ebay at some point.

It affects the image quality greatly. A color image on a black and white television looks horrible. It looks horrible on a color television, but we can fix that now. We have the technology. We can make the first 6 million dollar 2600. Oh, wait, I'm regressing to the 70's...

Can ATY upgrade an 8mhz ST to 16mhz?

Didn't Paypal institute something like a 45 day hold before you could transfer money out of your Paypal account to your bank account to give buyers enough time to complain if there's a problem? I know lots of sellers who set up bank accounts just to sweep their Paypal funds into who then transfer the funds to another account right away so they never have to worry about a chargeback because the account is always empty. Putting a hold on your account makes this less practical because Paypal retains control of the funds for the full length of the complaint period. Nobody can run out and leave ebay/Paypal on the hook for the refund. This makes it rough if you're doing pre-orders, though, because you can't pay your suppliers for 45 days when the funds are released and a lot of people will have filed non-delivery complaints by then. You have to take the money out of your own pocket to pay for the pre-orders then wait until Paypal releases the funds to get the money back and hope someone doesn't file a complaint before then because then you'll lose money.

Is anyone still making these?

I'd also be interested in knowing what you have if you don't mind parting out the lot.

Please let someone pay the shipping charges for these if necessary. I can remember way back when these were the monitors you really wanted for DTP. They could do 1280x960. There were adapter boards that shipped with these that you needed so make sure you keep them together with the monitors if you have them. It may explain any loose boards that you find that you don't know what they are used for. "Moniterm, a giant in the monitor industry, has completed a high-resolution interface board for the Atari Mega and the Moniterm Viking 1 and Viking 2400 monitor. The board connects to the Mega's internal bus connector and provides a monochrome screen resolution of 1280 by 960, more than twice the size of the current ST monochrome monitor. The board will also have a socket for the Motorola 68881 math coprocessor that may be installed at a later time. The Viking 1 19-inch monitor and board will sell for a maximum of $1,995, according to Ward Johnson, President of Moniterm. The Viking 2400 24-inch monitor will sell for $2,595. Both monitors have an option for a non-glare screen. Properly written software should work immediately with the Moniterm monitor."

Get over it. These days, it's all about hating on Bobby Kotick. I can remember when hating on Trip Hawkins was the thing. Does that make me old? Sigh.

You obviously never saw any of the more interesting products being developed in the Atari Labs division, then. Thought controlled video games? Yowzers!

Links to where these products can be bought?

Wait. This goes INSIDE a PC in a PCI slot?? How the heck do you connect anything up to it? Shouldn't it be mounted in a case of it's own so the ports all stick out where you can actually plug something into them? Making it so it fits in a standard ST case would have been a much better idea. There's lots of people with those who could just swap out the original motherboard and replace it with this one.

I have one.