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Maybe the interested buyer also lives in Hazlet.

Well, you're naming games all the way back to 1996 (Kevtris), so it's not hard to imagine why a number of those are out of production. I've heard rumors that Steamroller might come back, but I wouldn't bank on it. Oddly enough, for its limited release run, Ms Space Fury shows up around four or so times a year on eBay ... so at least that one is in pretty regular circulation (still), all things considered. I don't believe that it's that no one wants to "work them", just that the developers did their thing, released the game, and I'm guessing there's just no need to churn 'em out indefinitely. Not that I can really speak in place of these particular developers, but I'm sure there are reasons aplenty. Personally, I'd hate to see limited-run games start blasting out in numberless quantities. Then again, that's only because I paid a fair sum for a couple of those that I do have.

Um... there are more than a half-dozen "out of print" currently. Actually, I'd be surprised that there'd even be a half-dozen "in print" at any one time.

Odd. It resembles the labeling on the C64 (or Atari 8bit?) carts, but it's clearly the size of a standard 2600 casing.

No offense, but this collection tops the one you turned over a while back rather handily, taken as a whole. Based on how most of the higher end items in this collection have fared on eBay in the last 18 months, the $700 reserve is rather reasonable for someone looking to pick up a fair spread across the platform's gaming library in one stab. Higher than I would have pegged it to be in advance, but a figure that is far from highway robbery. Shipping from Canada to the US is rather steep, though, and the condition of certain carts listed is doubtful (Campaign '84 appears to have screwholes in the label, as does Tutankham, and Moonsweeper looks the worse for wear, and since "less than 10" are listed as having cosmetic imperfection, others may be in questionable state). But for a Canadian in search of an quick jump on a collection ... it isn't too bad a start. On the whole, though, $700 is about what I'd expect to see an "instant collection" such as this go for on eBay today with decent bidder exposure. I have my doubts that the current high bidder will pay-through on it, which is a bit of a shame, as it would have been interesting to see who would have shown up in the $400 to $700 range on this, the closing day. Not quite sure what mcgrail0007 is grousing about ... I'm relatively certain that he was bidding on ColecoVision items two-plus years back when he was operating as stlouisrams2002. Bids may be skewed higher on boxed items these days, but there are far more CV "listings of interest" now than there ever were three years ago. Heck, back then the Artillery Duel/Chuck Norris double-ender was a $75-$90 item, now it more or less tops out $60 on its own.

Me, too.

Have times changed so, though? I picked up a copy of Halloween (pic) with the manual for under $100 less than a year ago ... and without the peeling end label. Am I fortunate, or just lucky?

An additional factor: do the controllers work (well)?

It may be that we work different sides of the fence on eBay, but in all honesty, I've really only come across one side offer to a seller that was "going rate" ... this from conversing with several sellers who closed down auctions early a bit prematurely and direct experience with the requests I've fielded as a seller. But, like I said, things may differ from area to area across eBay. I doubt eBay knows what goes on in a lot of cases. There are far too many auctions to police, and really, this is one thing that eBay shouldn't have to police at all. Blaming eBay for the behavior of auctioneers is a bit much, though.

Ah, but eBay is for the impatient ... and anyone who watches eBay should know by now that if a stlouisrams2004 auction fails to sell the first go-around, it'll relist at a lower price. And yet, how many times have those auctions ended on the first run-through with a single bid(der) winning? Agreed. Regardless of the seller, if the price is too high, just ignore it. Someone else drains his/her pocketbook on it instead? Great, they now have less money to spend elsewhere. Too bad the world is full of buy-now-gimme-gimme.

As others have already pointed out, side deals on eBay are nearly always to the gross benefit of the person making the offer in an attempt to take advantage of sellers who don't fully recognize what they have listed for auction. If people honestly thought they could get the same or better deal in a straight-up auction, they wouldn't offer a side deal. It's that simple. There have been numerous times where I've been *tempted* to make a side offer, but never have because I guess I personally value the seller receiving what an item is worth at auction rather than what I think it to be worth, which most often is less. I've tried to rationalize a "make a side offer because someone else will" mentality, but just can't ... it just exacerbates the problem. Unfortunately, there are plenty of others (no names) who are looking for the best "deal" they can get, even if it means taking an item out of an open marketplace by removing all competition. There's another reason not to engage in this behavior. It's just plain rude. Not to other potential buyers, or to the seller, but to the host of the auction, eBay. I know that eBay is often cast as a villain, and Lord knows I've frequently cursed its shortcomings. But in making side deals on listed items for undisclosed or vastly discounted amounts against expectations, buyers are pretty much giving eBay the finger while reaping the rewards of the services it offers: "Hey, thanks for letting others showcase what is available, let me make sure you don't get your cut for bringing buyer and seller together. Have a nice day." I've seen perhaps one side offer in the past five years on eBay that wasn't the greedy taking advantage of the gullible or ignorant. Shit happens, and you try to ignore it, but sometimes it's difficult. Honestly, I think the solution lies in somehow explaining to sellers not to accept side deals and to have faith in the market, and to beat it into their skulls that one should never put a BIN price on something when he/she has no clue whatsoever what that something is worth. You can fault sellers for being idiots, but honestly, is it too much to ask to refrain from screwing every penny out of them in the holy quest for the side deal?

Ofthe four NOS, three were (from the seller's words) unopened, and a fourth had been opened for inspection and "slightly torn in the process" ... this is the explanation I got ahead of auction close, and the same was given to others who asked. Perhaps jaygee112 got that fourth one and left neutrals on both for retaliation? Seems to me that it's entirely possible jaygee112 threw his or her money around without thinking or asking questions.

Happens quite frequently with the single-enders (loose labels, adhesive bleed). XonoX = cheap. Can't say as I've ever seen a ColecoVision double-ender exhibit the same symptoms.

Unbelievable. It's not that jaygee112 buys multiples -- that could be understood. It's that he buys multiples at peak prices.

Oddly enough, you get to see the same one again: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8186654578 Bidders, start your engines.

I think you're reading far too much into what I said. What you describe is modification to the standard setup. How is it anything but? Either modify the stock ADAM or live with having the printer attached. Period. Yes, one could wire in a PS his/herself. Most people don't want to do that. Even so, unless a suitable PS is on hand, you'll then have to get one of those, too. I don't see how this is any better than ponying up a few dollars more for a ColecoVision in the first place. The ADAM console is mostly empty. So is the ColecoVision. The ADAM is still clunkier. And as you pointed out, it isn't black.

bstnguy! resells all the ColecoVisions he purchases off eBay back onto eBay in small console + commons lots. That's why he keeps bidding on them.

Then something's wonky, because I've had trouble with NTSC carts on a PAL deck ... not all games mind you, just the occasional title here and there. Or, at least that's how I remember it from the last time I used my PAL CV. Clearly, I could be wrong in that recollection.

Well, the truth of it is that the other four listed this past week were likely its equal. I'm not sure how many people spoke to the seller, but those four came from a retail buyout and were from a NOS shipping carton of CVs. The picture attached to those auctions was unfortunate, as it did not reflect the condition of the items for sale ... the seller simply yoinked it from off the Web someplace. So, will you see another again? There were a few others side-listed at the time, so my guess would be yes. (And no, the seller of the other four doesn't have any more.)

The downside being, of course, that unless modified, the power supply for the ADAM is housed in the printer, so you need not one, but two clunky things around just to play carts. It should also be noted that compared to a ColecoVision, an ADAM (with printer) weighs a friggin' ton, and so if you're going to have it shipped a distance, whatever gain had by cheaping out on an ADAM is lost to postage costs in most cases.

I'm sorry, but that's patently untrue. Although NTSC ColecoVisions have no difficulty playing PAL titles, the reverse (NTSC games on PAL systems) is usually problematic. Sometimes quite so. In terms of market valuation, PAL carts are not worth as much as NTSC carts, and any unusual valuation (where a non-US game is worth the same or more than a US/CDN release) is usually the result of "true" rarity, e.g. SpliceVision carts. The devaluation is particularly true for boxed titles.

Yeah, that would be a new high for a sealed ColecoVision on eBay ... well, at least in the past few years. If you actually check jaygee112's bids on the others, he tried for three, but only snagged two of them (the third went for $515). Which probably means he bid $505 on each of the three, and could have been hit for that amount had anyone posed a challenge there. Now, why would anyone pay nearly $1000 for a new ColecoVision when a total of *five* were listed for the same week? Beats me. In the past, they usually top out at the $400-$500 mark with even the most stellar stupidity in play.

Definitely not mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8183926918

Is it time to joke: "at those prices, how could you NOT be a Power Seller..." ?

Truer words were never spoken ... though there have been cases where gullible sellers have been talked into cancelling outstanding bids to shoehorn a BIN for pushy buyers, so maybe not so low a starter bid.