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  1. Recently Carnival and Zaxxon stopped working. I cleaned the contacts. Looked at them with flashlight and magnifying glass. They look no different than the games that still work. I get either a black screen, or most like likely the turn console off, etc. one. Can they be recycled if then can't be revived? Thanks!
  2. First of all, Why are the roms and emulators, which are such tiny files, zipped? If this was 1996 with 56k modems, ok. There is no need to zip anything anymore. That said, is there an alternative to winzip? I am using Windows 7 and even if you download winzip for a free 21 day trial period, it doesn't work tomorrow. the trial period is always over, then it takes about ?? reinstallations before it stops telling you congratulations! you have installed winzip, but surprise, you haven't. When you go to use it you get the message that the trial period is over. Downloaded and installed and removed from control panel, add/remove programs about 8 times tonight, still doesn't work. Just the message that the trial period is over. God bless the actual 7800 machine sitting in front of my old crt television. Just flip it on and play. Too much to ask to get to try the games listed here as roms that I don't have actual cartridges of, I guess.
  3. I have one that works perfectly. It is blue, Sony model mz-n707 and I have five discs with it. I haven't been able to change the songs on the discs since switching from xp to Windows 7 way back when. The program which you put on your computer to transfer songs just tells me there is a missing file that Sony's website no longer offers. So how do you get songs onto yours? I could send you this one, but your location is obviously fake, and shipping wherever you really are is probably more than it is worth to do. So perhaps you could just tell me what you are running or provide a link to a version of openmgjukebox that actually works? If you do that and I still can't get things working, I'd send it to you for shipping costs covered by you.
  4. I offered up two working consoles with a dozen games for each, for free, just pay the shipping, and got zero serious replies. I did this twice and gave up, so you probably won't sell any Intellivision stuff here.
  5. As a winter project I have been trying out all my backup consoles, and one that is being a bitch is the 7800, particularly the power button, actually, only the power button. I had to take the top off and press on the 3 or 9 o'clock position with a pencil tip, rather softly as pressing hard with my finger does nothing, pressing with the eraser end does nothing, only with something pointy will it come on. Can one replace the button? Would squirting some contact cleaner on it and pressing it a bunch of times help? It is pretty easy to leave the screws out and just take the top off if I need to use the backup machine, but it would be nice if it could be fixed and screwed back together and have the power button work as it should. Thanks for any thoughts!
  6. I finally have the vector games working that stopped when I upgraded to Windows 7 from xp, and have found a site (emuparadise)to get roms that so far seem to be working. Some still don't work, (Dig Dug, Galaga and Major Havoc, for three examples. I downloaded every possible file, no versions work) and I am wondering if the the MAMEBIOS file that one of the first few rom pages said I needed to download to make that rom work is why some still don't work. According to the main MAMEdev page I need to "leave the bios file zipped and put it in the roms folder." Ok. It is called MAMEBIOS in my downloads folder. Is it that simple or do I need one specific to the version of MAME that I am using? There didn't seem to be any choices. If it specific to versions, how would I find the one I need to go with MAME UI64 0.172 which was the latest version, when I gave up (for a while) trying to get the vector games working again, and the others 60 or so that stopped working when forced to switch from xp to Windows 7. Things are working pretty good so far, so I'd like to know what this file will do or if I even have the right one before I put it in with the roms and audit the games to maybe find out I have the wrong file and now a boatload of games don't work again. Thanks!
  7. I have noticed that many dip switch settings you can change the # of men to a number above the typical max of 5, yet you still get 5 men. Taito games don't seem to respond to changing any settings of difficulty. Which is the easiest? One or 99? I can't discern any difference. Qix seems no different on difficulty 1 versus 99. It is still too hard. You can select 99 men, you still get a maximum of 5. Stern games sometimes have several options for difficulty. Lost Tomb has an easiest setting in a so called 'easy' rom, and is still impossible to enjoy. You still die almost immediately with the gazillion enemies and their one pixel microscopic firings at you. Some games you can tell the difference between selection of difficulty, but I can't tell any difference with Taito or Stern games. I know jack shit about writing code, but I wonder, could someone who does go into a game rom and change things so that say, Qix slowed down to a speed that you could get beyond three boards, or take out whatever makes your man stop moving when you fire that in my opinion ruins Frenzy, a sequel to Berzerk and the one thing that made Berzerk too hard was carried over into its sequel. Both of those games would be fun if you could move as you fire. The time limit in Frenzy is too small to get anywhere having to stop to fire before the # of enemies is just too ridiculous. Then again, I think most Stern games are too F'ing hard. The one pixel enemy fire being my biggest frustration. Could someone find the line of code that stops your man moving when the fire button is pressed, remove that, and release a version of Berzerk and Frenzy that are fun to play or are roms not changeable in this way? I have tried Lost Tomb and others on the 'infinite lives' setting, and it really makes no difference, there is just too much difficulty involved, no one would ever get good at the game. You just get to die a hundred times instead of your quarter back in the day buying you 90 seconds of frustration.
  8. Back in March I switched versions of MAME trying to get the vector games to play after switching from xp to WIndows 7. MAMEIU64 0172 is the version. The vector games still don't work, but a whole bunch of games must come along with this version as I didn't download them and have no recollection of them being on the list on the previous computer which had xp and all the games working. When I try out these new to me titles the odds are 50/50 that while playing the game will freeze, the sound will repeat a half second loop, the x to close doesn't work, neither does closing it at the bottom of the screen. I either have to turn the computer off with the power bar, which can cause hard drive issues, I know, or sometimes the task manager will open and I can close it from there. So my question is wtf is going on? A couple of times it froze and turned the screen orientation 90 degrees making it just about impossible to even try to close anything as holding the computer monitor sideways so I can try to move the mouse around is rather difficult. This shit doesn't happen with any of the games that I had before, just the ones that must have come with this version as. like I said, I didn't download them. Markham, Sun Electronics, 1983, just caused it to happen. What crappy graphics, game play, dying for no apparent reason. I was just about to hit the escape key on this poopfest when it froze. Any thoughts? Thanks!
  9. MAME is unnecessarily frustrating with the endless updates that make files that worked fine before now suddenly wrong. I am running MAMEUI64 0.172 and it runs almost all the games, though Galaga does not work, and all the vector games that worked with Windows XP don't work. Not a single one. I can't figure out why and nobody here had any idea why either. Conversely, some games that I didn't even realize I had now work and appear in the list of games so I think that you'll never get all your roms to work on one version of MAME but this one is close, albeit minus all the vector games. Are you using a front end? I couldn't get it to do anything via the command line version of MAME. Way too difficult for me!
  10. Coin op has not died, though there are not a lot of arcades. Funspot in New Hampshire is one place that I'd just blow a gasket to get to go to. Locally there is an arcade: leveluplasertag.ca just ten minutes from my house. It has been renovated, yet they haven't updated the pictures, as now the classic games are all at the back and set on free play, and you go back there for $5 tax included an hour. There were 18 games the other day. The stuff out front is still on quarter play, the stuff from the 90's, pinball. Out back was Mortal Kombat II, NBA Jams, a couple games using a light gun that I had never seen before, The Simpsons, Super Sprint, Frogger, Pac-Man, Toobin, Galaxian, Space Invaders, a couple of others that I was unfamiliar with, and IMHO, an absolute necessity in an 80's arcade, Ms. Pac-Man. #1 video game ever as voted by me Also, there are pinball games, prize games, air hockey, that red and white domed two player hockey game that was everywhere around 1984. That's all I can remember besides the coleco tabletop games and consoles and cartridges on display on the wall. There was also 80's tunes on, so they really have it all covered. I have no affiliation with this place, no idea who started it, but it has been in the mall for two years so obviously arcades are not dead as this is not a big city.
  11. I have two Intellivision consoles each with about a dozen games, some of which work with one console and not the other, thus why they are separated. I see here via a 316 page thread regarding ebay, that people are buying them. I'd rather not bother with ebay, and I got no interest via Kijiji. I posted a similar query here a couple years ago and got no interest, and the two consoles have been hanging in the porch ever since, untouched. I was going to donate them to Value Village, but they are no longer interested in the "old" stuff. I like the games that I kept but the crappy controllers just frustrate me too much, especially the fire buttons. Aching hands is not the goal for me when playing games, but I digress. If there is interest here I will post pictures of the carts and consoles, if not, I don't know what to do with them as I am not interested in paying an electronics recycling company to take them and am not cold hearted enough to just put them in the garbage barrel on garbage day.
  12. I haven't posted in a while so I went into "my content" to refresh my memory of what I have posted about over the years, and there are only six with the list cutting out exactly a year ago. I see that there are many older threads that people continue to resurrect, so could somebody tell me why I can only see a years' worth? No great relevance to the older ones, but it would prevent one from asking a repeat question if the issue came up again, say all the trouble I had with MAME, I could go back and review what people replied before, but none of that stuff is in "my content." Thanks!
  13. A local mall has created an arcade with modern crap, and an 80's pay hourly section at the back. All of the games seem to be functioning just like they did 30+ years ago which in itself is amazing. (Their Space Invaders looks like it just rolled off the assembly line!) So neat to go in and play, anyway, I am wondering about Frogger, as it has some screen problems, but not really screen problems, more like something is going wrong with the program. The high score still says 'high score' but the actual score is a constantly changing assortment of letters and numbers, same with the player one score and other words that appear on the screen such as press 1 player start after inserting a quarter. They all are mainly comprised of a backward capital letter R. This is the only game that looks tinkered with as it has a different joystick, and no cardboard around the screen with the tire track that Frogger had, but it is still in the same Sega wood grain that I remember Frogger being in. I know that I can't fix it, but I think if I could pass on a useful suggestion to the people who run this arcade, maybe Frogger could continue to function, as every time I go there, there are more backward letter R's on the screen, so it is obviously getting near a meltdown!
  14. Tried your suggestions, goldenegg. The newest version of official MAME plays even fewer of my roms then ever before, plus there is no sound on ones that I know worked fine with sound. The MAME folder that wouldn't let me delete it yesterday, deleted fine today. I think I'll try and get the comctl32.dll file from my sister's computer which is an xp machine and try the thumb drive with the emulator and roms on it on her machine, and if it works then it proves that either the old versions of MAME don't work on Windows 7 or that 32 file is essential to the old versions working, eiither way, since other people seem to be having such ridiculous problems with this, I have my doubts that either thing will help as any time I try to add something new to this machine which should be complete and working, be it MAME, installing the Sony minidisc which should have contained all the files needed, but from xp to 7, nope. dll files missing. It took the same amount of madness to install a logitech joystick which worked fine on xp, again with 7, missing dll files, same installation disc, should have simply installed. Perhaps I should get xp reinstalled on my machine since I don't download porn or visit questionable sites, I should be able to get things working like they did before. How about a MAC? I have no idea. But what I do know is that the newest mame is a mess imho, no list of games, just a confusing mess of trying to find things by spelling them out, instead of scrolling through A into B, into C. Each game that you exit resets the volume back up to full blast, which I keep turning down so that I can have tunes shuffling in the background, the difficulty, the # of lives resets to the lowest # of men and quite often greatest difficulty. Not impressed with this one. Making things more and more frustrating and difficult is not progress, just unnecessary irritation. I bet what will happen is that the MAME's that are on the thumb drive, which are identical to what is on the Windows 7 machine will work, but if I recopy them and get that mysterious 32.dll file off her computer and bring it here, I bet I will just get another error message, or simply have things still not work, as the newest MAME should not need an xp file yet still does not recognize all the games that the lack of that file seems to be preventing from working. Again, time for bed before I take a hammer to the computer,
  15. I'd like to try goldeneggs suggestion, but there is no results when searching this computer for the COMCTL32.DLL file, so maybe that is why nothing about MAME from the other computer works, it is not here on this Windows 7 machine at all...? So I decided to remove all traces of MAME from my computer with the exception of the rom's file (which I'll obviously need) and start over with his suggestions. Nope, can't do that as I get an error message that I need administrator permission from IBM-TC-675TG-PC-IBM to remove the various versions of MAME that are still in the downloads folder. Who the F is the administrator? This is a home computer, I don't sign on when I power it up. Time to go to bed before I take Mr Hammer to the computer.
  16. I tried the above mentioned MAME 32plus 0.83. Glad it works for him, but I got the same error message that seems to be preventing the older roms and older MAME's from working on Windows 7. A file called comctrlx86 which needs to be updated, the link provided from windows does not work as the file is unavailable from Windows, even though the pop up error message is from Windows telling me that they provide the damn file from them ?!?! and google'ing it results in many sites that guarantee to solve your comctl32.dll problems for a fee. I'm sure there is lots of spyware and other problems to be had there so I didn't bite. So maybe this is the problem between xp and 7 as I recall getting an error message with 32 in it when I first tried to simply move MAME, and all the roms together in one file folder from the old computer to this one. Upon opening that version of MAME which worked fine on xp, nothing would work without changing the 32.dll file which as I said, I couldn't find from Windows I appreciate goldeneggs offer of computer to computer help, but it shouldn't be this difficult. MAME and all files were simply copied from an xp machine onto a thumb drive, and onto a Windows 7 machine. If that is not the problem then the games should all still work, they don't. I didn't change any pathways or file names. The older version from a 32 bit system would not open the 100 games, mostly vector games, giving the comctl32.dll file missing incomapatibility error message. I am extremely hesitant to try and accept a download of the comctrlx86 file from any of these sites as the last time I tried to fix something that stopped working (Sony mini-disc player which stopped working as well between xp and 7 for no apparent reason, so don't tell me there aren't compatibility issues betweent the two!) I ended up with a big bill from my computer repair shop to get rid of all the spyware and other shit that came with the download which was supposedly from Sony bridging the gap between xp and 7 as far as the minidisc was concerned. There is a certain appeal to simply going out the back door into the woods and listening to the birds chirp in the trees, certainly simpler that fighting with computers to get things to work. I can't imagine how anyone would find fixing computers to be a job that would not make one jump off a cliff. Sigh. Maybe it is time to concede defeat, 1/4 of the games don't work anymore for no sensible reason. The Atari, coleco and intellivision hooked up to my tv always seem to just power on and work with none of this bullshit. An update of MAME should not fuck up what worked before. Also, you should be able to have more that one version of MAME on your computer to try and figure out what is wromg without endless error messages that MAME has detected an outdated version and needs to make changes, well how can I figure out what is wrong with an older version if the newer version will not exist on my computer unless I delete the older version. I should have never tried to get this working, but fall is here with freezing to death and 14 hours of darkness per day, so I really would like to escape to summers of being a little kid at the arcade with Linda's arm around my shoulder while I played Ms. Pac and she was so impressed that I could get to the blue board and no one else could.....
  17. Lots of interesting thoughts, couple things to try, but as happened last time, things got steered way off topic. The initial wonderment remains. I copied a working version of MAME and 458 roms that worked with that version onto a thumb drive and transferred that to the new computer. Suddenly 150 or so of those roms are suddenly missing files. If as some have stated using Windows 7 versus XP, then what went wrong? If something about going from 32 to 64 bit is not the problem then why don't things still work? I get why rom sets don't work with various versions of MAME as changes are made, but there were no changes. I put files on a thumb drive and moved them to a new machine, suddenly a third of them don't work. I moved some files, that should not make 1/3 of them suddenly wrong. If you copied your mp3 collection onto a thumb drive to take to a friends house so you can have tunes for a party and 1/3 of the files are now missing or corrupt even though your friend has the exact same program to play the files as you do on your computer, would that seem ok or sane? Moving some files shouldn't make them not work. It has to be a difference between xp and Windows 7. Nothing else changed. Sorry guy who disagreed with me, on page one, the only change was xp to 7, not the roms, not the version of MAME. The fact that all the vector games stopped working, someone who works on developing MAME should be able to say why the vector games stopped working between xp and 7. But again, I moved some files from one machine to another, nothing should have stopped working. And no, it was not the thumb drive as I removed everything and started again three times with the same results. clrmamepro did not work. Either I got various error messages like it just told me that it couldn't find any roms, or the rom path was wrong.
  18. Thanks for your thoughts all. The problem isn't really new versions of MAME or updated roms, it is still the same problem I started with. XP is 32 bit and Windows 7 is 64. I realize you can ask your computer to pretend that it is running xp, and that should let the version of MAME and all the roms that worked, continue to work, but it doesn't. There will still be 150 roms that are now incomplete, which should work if I the machine is pretending to be running xp, but they don't. It's a shame that MAME is the only thing that will even try to utilize the rom's. I'm sure that if there were other options that one could download then the MAME team would stop their foolishness that it is not meant to be a means of playing your favorite games, but a tool for understanding how the machines worked. Whatever. Nobody on the planet uses MAME to study how Asteroids was configured and analyze lines of code. 99.9% of us don't understand that in the least, we all just want to play the f@#$;ing games that make us feel like it is 1982 again.
  19. I asked this question back in June, and I appreciate the responses but coudn't make heads or tails of most of what people said I should try. So I'll ask for some help again now that we are back to freezing to death season and there is much time to tinker with computer things. According to the main MAME website, each new version corrects problems and recognizes more and more roms. Have to disagree with that. I find just the opposite as I have tried completely wiping everything off my computer and trying another version only to have games that worked stop working. All I brought over from the old computer were the rom files and none of them work till I "Audit all games" then I get more or less the same results. Some of the games are suddenly missing files that are needed to run. Where did they go? Choosing to run as though my new machine is xp , that is 32 bit versus 64 in Windows 7,didn't help. All the vector games are the main problem. None of them work, same file that worked on the old xp machine. Right now I'm using MAMEUI32 0.154 (July 2014) and it recognizes 306 of the 458 roms that worked on the xp machine. That's a two year old version of MAME and is as close to being able to play all 458 games that I could get to work. None of the other 152 roms which are complete (as they worked on XP) will work on 7. "Fatal error: one or more of the required files are missing." Well, they aren't missing, the file works on the xp machine, which was only replaced as the integrated sound card stopped working. Yes, I could play the games with no sound, but why can't I play a version of MAME that works on Windows 7? Or is there another emulator besides MAME that will recognize these rom files and let me play ms pac man like it was 1982 and I was 11 again? Thanks in advance for any constructive thoughts!
  20. I have two Intellivision's and 18 games. I'd like to enjoy them but the thumb circle and stiff fire buttons ruin it for me. The buttons and circle work on both machines, I just find them more tiring than fun. All the carts work first try, every time I plugged them in and tried to get past the atrocious joysticks and enjoy them. Beauty and the Beast, DK JR. and Venture only work on one machine, on the other, just the gray screen. So these three would obviously have to go with that machine, unless somebody already had a machine and wanted to risk that they would work on their when they only work on one of mine. The other 14 work on either. They are: Demon Attack, Bump'n Jump, Pitfall, Skiing, Nova Blast, Advanced D and D (smoky mountains I think it was called,) Loco-Motion, Burgertime, Atlantis, Safecracker, Lock N' Chase (two of these), Space Battle and Mission X. There are boxes, manuals and overlays for some of these. I am in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada, so US shipping is probably cost prohibitive, so anybody here in Canada want these? I have pics of all this, but I'm not going to bother posting attachments till I know there is some interest, because, really, you know what an Intellivision looks like, etc. If there is no interest, I'll just drop the whole lot in the Value Village bin.
  21. Care to elaborate on what either of these things are or whether either are fixable or replaceable for a reasonable $ amount?
  22. Mid winter the right track started to simply almost disappear (I say almost as putting my ear right up to a speaker I could still tell what song was playing as some signal was still getting through.) If I got up and tapped the case it would come back on fully. This worked for about three months, then I'd have to get up more often and tap the case, then it was every three minutes. At which point I was starting to get really annoyed, so I took it apart. I sprayed contact cleaner in the balance and the volume knob and looked closely for a pin that the cold solder might have pulled away from. I found nothing wrong. Sony STR-AV910 is the model #. It is from 1989. I really like it as it has an actual EQ and not just bass/treble or those stupid jazz/rock/talk, etc. settings. I hesitate to send it to a repair shop as once you ask them to fix it, you could end up with a bill 2/3 as much as buying a brand new unit. But since nothing available new has more than bass/treble, I would be willing to put a fair bit of $ into it. Plus the new ones mainly don't have any way to hook up my turntable which is a must for me to be able to use. The temporary replacement I borrowed is nice, but no record player hookup is possible. On a related note, how does one utilize the speaker B button? I have hooked up speakers to it, turned A off, tried both on, nothing makes the speakers hooked up to the B button work. Doesn't matter what ohms or impedance I hook up either. I'd like to run just two speakers on the B button so that late at night I know that the neighbors won't be bothered by too much noise passing through the walls and into their mobile home/trailer as we are quite close together here and when there is no wind the tunes really carry through the still night air even at a really low volume. Thanks for any constructive thoughts!
  23. I have the cheats zipped file in the cheats folder. I have cheats enabled. I tab into cheats and see the list appear as white letters on the black background. Every game has zero cheats available...Opening up the cheats zip to see what is in there reveals, for example, six cheat files for Pengo, so I would expect to be offered six cheat options when I tab Cheats once MAME is running Pengo, yet the same with virtually all of the games in my collection there are "No cheats available", yet there are files for them in the cheats download. Are cheats only usable by people who know how do do things by command line versus using MAME with the front end? I would not attempt do try and use MAME without the front end. On the other hand, since putting the cheats file where it is supposed to go, I have noticed that Juno first has the option of 255 lives, Ms. Pac Man's speed button now works, though in reverse, press it to slow down to normal speed. A couple of other games now offer "infinite" as a selection in "Lives", so I think that this file is doing something. But what are the 8099 files for if they don't effect the games that they are named for? Choosing the other options such as load or enable a cheat, or start a new cheat search just turn the screen blank till I hit escape. "Active cheats: 0" always stays the same, even on the games where I noticed I suddenly have a cheat type option that wasn't there before... I don't know what xml files are, but opening one, it looks they are just word descriptions of what to type into a command line in MAME without a front end. If so, then Cheats is of no use to me as I wouldn't attempt to use MAME from a DOS command line point of view. Far too frustrating for a non-binary thinker like me:) Thanks for any helpful thoughts once again.
  24. I will start by saying I have no understanding of how to think like a computer. Anytime Nukey Shay, or any of the others here that understand the inner workings of a computer respond to somebody's query, I think to myself; 'it must be nice to be that brilliant.' That said, I wonder whether it is possible to get into the line by line information of a ROM and change a game so that your character in Bagman moved at a speed that was reasonable and gave you a chance to collect the bags of $ before the timer runs out. Speeding up your character in Berzerk would be nice as well as your legs go 1000 miles an hour as your character slllooowllly meanders across the screen. Just a couple of examples of things I would change. Are copyright restrictions what stops the brainy computer types from changing the lines of code to make games fun instead of bloody frustrating? There is a monstrous thread about how difficult Bagman is but no one with the programming knowledge that I definitely lack ever disables the timer, or makes your man move at a reasonable speed and releases a hack version. Another good example would be Stern's Lost Tomb, the so called "Easy" ROM is still basically impossible to stay alive even long enough to make your way to one of the pyramid doors before the birds swoop in from thin air and kill you. I would think that the gravity in Gravitar would be just a line of code that could be changed so the game would be fun to play instead of the mind f#%$ that it quickly becomes. I know that some companies encryped their games, so I understand why it took a long time for, say, Moon Shuttle to be emulated, and even now that it is, the free man setting is still an insanely difficult 20000. As hard as I try, I haven't been able to get above 17500... Couldn't at least, the limits on the dip switches be changed so you could give yourself 100 men now that we are all playing these games at home on our computers and no quarters are involved? Or perhaps have the dip switches actually respond to what you have selected. Speak and Rescue does not replenish astronauts even when you switch it to. Warp Warp does not give free men based on your dip switch selections, neither does Astro Invader. Feel free to dazzle me with some insightful responses! Just some
  25. Hi toptenmaterial. I posted this offer (quoting myself below)in the marketplace in early March and only got one serious response. I figured I would reply to your inquiry as I am only a two to three hour drive from you in Saint John, NB, Canada. Conversely, shipping would be somewhat reasonable from here to there. Let me know if you are interested in getting this stuff to you as I would like the two systems and games to have a good home. Here's my post from March: A couple of members here at AA bought loose carts from me, and it was a good experience so I figured I'd start to purge the rest of my stuff that just sits in my baby barn. I could easily just put it out in the porch for the next time Community Living comes knocking for stuff that ends up on the shelves at Value Village. Keep in mind that a bubble envelope for shipping is about $2, and shipping to anywhere starts at about $7, it takes time to get your address, a trip to the post office to find out the exact shipping, and another trip to mail it, so please don't ask me if I'd accept $1 for game X, as though the other costs did not exist in getting something from my door to yours. I have a bunch of Atari and Coleco; carts, extra systems, joysticks, etc,. But I will start with the Intellivision as I wish to purge all of it. Two working systems, in good shape, though they have little dowels JB Welded to the circular controller, as that was the only way I could make them steer worth a damn as I found that little circle was a thumb breaker! I only kept the games that I found playable with good response from the atrocious controllers that Intellivision thought could pass as joysticks. They are: Pitfall, Demon Attack, Burger Time (with box and instructions), Skiing, Venture, Safe Cracker, (2) Lock N' Chase, Nova Blast, Atlantis, Space Battle, Loco Motion, Beauty and the Beast, Mission X, Advanced D&D, Donkey Kong Jr., and Bump N' Jump (with box and manual.) I realize, nothing particularly rare here, but I figured I'd offer this stuff here first and see what happens, as all the stuff for all three systems can easily go in the front porch and head off to VV if there is no interest that at least costwise covers my time.
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