FujiSkunk
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Both versions are cool, and the 2600 version gets bonus points for producing excellent graphics. The problem with the 2600 verison is, the environment is too predictable. It's extremely easy to figure out which things need to be shot and which can be ignored. Plus, the evil eye is supposed to be a distracting opportunity for extra points, but in the 2600 version, it actually offers a break from the action. On some screens, the longer you let it stay, the longer you don't have to shoot anything at all.
My money's on the 7800 version.
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Also, I have yet to see anything that really competes with it on the 2600...You could say Radar Lock, but that's kind of cheating.
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Those would come in handy for those willing to shell out for a portable 2600.
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Frying
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My most amusing episode of frying was with Outlaw. The game officially has 16 game variations. Frying usually produces a 17th variation, #0, that features two players, a wall, and the "getaway" trick.
Once, however, frying gave me variations #26 through #99! Each of these was some new mix-up of the game's available features, including many that were amusing, yet unplayable. There were walls that couldn't be shot through. There were one-player games that used the six-shooter, and after those six shots, the player could never replenish, since the target never fired. There were moving cactii. And other such fun. After #99, the game cycled back to #0. Sadly, only the original 16 could be cycled through after that, and I haven't seen those variations since.
Frying is another way to get the two-shot ability in Space Invaders. Sometimes your base ends up invisible, also.
Frying Asteroids yielded a rather monotonous version where the asteroids were always white, and the enemy ships always followed the same path and fired in the same direction.
Frying E.T. will give even people who like the game reason to despair. Only one zone ever appears, the call Elliot zone. Poor little E.T. is stranded!
Frying Centipede was often a scary experience. You started above the playfield. If you came down, you could be anywhere you wanted on screen, at least until you went below the invisible barrier that keeps you in the lower third of the playfield. But if you went higher, you went through some weird warp that either wrapped you back below the playfield, or completely crashed the game, giving the impression something was actually wrong with your Atari.
I've fried plenty of other games, but those are the ones that stand out in my memory.
By the way, user "batari" is working on a stella hack that emulates frying. Check out this thread.
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Problem with the picture, try reattaching/reuploading if you can.
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I haven't played the XBox release, but if the PS2 release is any indication, the game is emulated decently, in my opinion. The graphics and gameplay are there, at full speed. The problem is in sound. It is a little too muffled for my taste, suggesting they're emulating (or using canned samples) at a reduced sampling rate. Strangely, one sound effect, the musical riff you hear when you have lost customers, is missing altogether.
Sound problems aside, I consider the collection worth getting, especially since it can be found for $10 new now.
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I thought we were discussing more than arguing...Chill out skunkworx. You misuderstood what I wrote.
I did? If so, I'm afraid it was mutual: I wasn't trying to be touchy.
Of course we can talk! (I'll buy you a beer)
Make it a Dr. Pepper.
Also B.C. doesn't guarantee success. The 7800 didn't stand a chance against the NES.I doubt this is the best example. The 7800 offered backwards compatibility for a machine that, by then, not many people were interested in anyway... Comparatively, the PS1... still had heavy third-party support at the time [of the PS2's release].
I don't see how that comparison relates to the success of a backwards compatible console. My opinion is that B.C. is a nice thing to have, but it's not necessary for a console to include. If a new console has it then great, but if it doesn't it is still fine.
I wasn't exactly disagreeing with you, and in fact I would also say that the success of a console isn't dictated by its backwards compatibility (though I would also say that its success can be helped by such a feature). At the same time, I was pointing out that the 7800 arguably is not a good example, because it was boasting backwards compatibility for a system that many people (and almost all third-party developers) had already moved away from, whereas the PS2 boasts backwards compatibility with a system that was still popular at the time.
The genesis is not backwards compatible. Neither is the SNES or the Gamecube.The SNES almost was, which is why this thread started in the first place. One reason the Gamecube isn't is because Nintendo realized there were more pressing issues, such as finally moving out of the cartridge age and into the disc age.
And while the Genesis is not backwards compatible, Sega did see fit to tap into SMS owners' desires to keep their SMS game library with the Powerbase Converter. In fact, some later SMS games had packaging notes mentioning playability on the Genesis with the Powerbase Converter. So, Sega obviously thought it was a helpful feature to have.
Backwards compatibility by itself hasn't been, and probably will never be, the deciding factor of a console's success, but I think there are enough examples to show that it can be the difference in whether and when an extra unit or two get sold.
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A8 Qix (and most of the other ports) have this feature...The main problem with the 8-bit version is that in the arcade you have to push a button to move off and draw a line on the arcade so you can quickly follow the contour (there is a fast draw and a slow draw button). On the 8-bit, one wrong accidental slip of the stick and you will start fast drawing...Whoops. I stand corrected. I guess it's been longer than I thought since I last played the Atari 8-bit version. I'll have to dig it out again.
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No one is arguing that backwards compatibility is a bad thing, but rather that is a nice, but not necessary feature to have.I thought we were discussing more than arguing. Some of us like the advantage backwards compatibility gives. Others are indifferent. Can we talk?
Of course, if you want to argue, we could point out that the 5200's sales were arguably hurt by a lack of backwards compatibility. Obviously, that was before the sheep population was trained to lust for a new console every three or four years, but still...
Also B.C. doesn't guarantee success. The 7800 didn't stood a chance against the NES.I doubt this is the best example. The 7800 offered backwards compatibility for a machine that, by then, not many people were interested in anyway. The 2600 was nearly a decade old by the time the 7800 was offered, and Atari was about the only company trying to keep the 2600 alive. Comparatively, the PS1 was five years old when the PS2 was released, and still had heavy third-party support at the time.
Normal Genesis models were not backwards compatible with the SMS.Not out of the box, no, but they did offer the Powerbase Converter.
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The weird thing is, I can remember wanting Solaris more than I can remember the first time I actually played it.
Around 1987-1988, my local Kay-Bee Toys still had a relatively decent selection of 2600 games. Even so, finding any particular title was a hit or miss affair, and the selection was always churning. So, one day I see Solaris, a game I hadn't seen before. Being an Atari-obsessed geek even back then, I had to have it. I had no clue what it was about, I just knew I had to have it. Unfortunately, they only had one box, and I didn't have the money for it when I first saw it. Even more unfortunately, a friend of mine, also an Atari gamer, vowed he would buy it before I would.
Naturally, this meant war.
At one point I hid the game in the display, hoping it would stay hidden until I could save up enough money. Later, when I finally got the money, I started begging my mother every which way I knew how to take me to the mall. She promised she would that following week, but that wasn't enough to stop me from begging. Finally, some friends of hers said they were going to the mall and offered to take me along. I cheerfully agreed, and rubbed my friend's nose in it. The only problem was, this happened to be Easter Sunday; the mall was closed!
The good news is, when Mom finally did take me, my precious Solaris was still there. Bought and paid for, it was now mine! Not my friend's. MINE!!
The game itself didn't disappoint. I don't remember my first play, but I do remember later bragging about how the graphics were as good as any NES game's.
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I like backwards compatibility, especially in modern systems. I will agree that it shouldn't be an absolute requirement, but it's a nice thing to have. I still have plenty of PS1 games that I play on my PS2. Since I'm not nostalgic for the PS1, I was happy to only keep one console instead of two.
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what exactly can you do with the second button?! I know the A8 version of Qix only and I think it's a very nice game. I enjoy it when playing it from time to time so what's the problem??The second button lets you draw stix at a slower pace. If you complete an area using only the slower speed, it fills in with a different color (orange) and you get more points. It adds more strategy to the game, not to mention more faithfulness to the arcade version.
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Is there a version of Berzerk VE available on cart?I know I can play it in an emu, but I wanna hear it on my 7800.
Cuttle Cart 2.
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Here's my second attempt to post this topic - the first has disappeared for some reason.I use MAME on a modded Xbox. However I find that Paperboy is unplayable. The sound is jittery and repeats itself like a stuck record which is odd, and the frame rate is hideously choppy.
That's a trademark of MAME. The sound will skip and back and forth like that if the system cannot emulate the game at full speed. MAME can also be configured to drop frames automatically if it detects a slow-down; that may be the default setting of the port you're using.
This is despite the fact that games like Out Run and Final Fight run with no problems. Why would a game from 1984 fail to run so spectacularly?Like Dav said, Paperboy uses a higher resolution than Outrun and Final Fight. That alone will require more processing power.
You could just go out and buy Midway Arcade Treasures 1, you know.
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I'm seeing 67.15.129.36 for atariage.com, but 66.98.164.184 for www.atariage.com.
It's about 10 AM Central Daylight Time.
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Colecovision system w/ 5 controllers, power supply, dust cover and Expansion Module #1...All the above for $20
You make me sick!!
The only good deal I found last weekend was a Win98SE new-computer license (not the upgrade), still shrink-wrapped, for $5.
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I have to say Battlezone too. It almost looks like a 5200 or even a 7800 games. True story I was playing it on my 7800 and my wife thought it was a 7800 game.It almost looks like a NES game!
Have you seen Battlezone on the NES? The 2600 version blows it out of the water!
As for my opinion, the first few red-label games were definitely the pinnacle of 2600 programming and graphics, and Solaris is the stand-out among stand-outs.
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I'm not much of a hardware guy, but I wonder if it would be possible to make an adapter (say a cartridge) that you could plug a PAL cart into and have it convert it to NTSC, and there for playable on a US system. Is that even doable? It would probably sell pretty well...Just get a TV that can automatically adjust it's vertical hold, or at the very least, a TV that has an adjustable v-hold. Unfortunately that won't stop the colors from being wrong, but it will at least make the game playable.
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As I understand things, hooking into the left audio port only gets output to both speakers. Hence the occasional double-labelling of "left/mono".The A/V cables are mono only, so you will need a splitter to feed two TV speakers.It depends on your receiver. While some receivers are intelligent enough to pipe the input through both speakers if only one side is hooked up, other receivers aren't.
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@!#[email protected]!, I suppose it's a nice title for game but how the heck are we going to say that?"Bleep Bleep Bleepity Bleep"
I like this name, too. If it has to change, why not make it amusing?
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I've only ever bought one system at launch, and that was the Dreamcast (though I was still a few days late to the punch). I wanted to play Sonic Adventure when it was new.
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I was wondering if anyone has good quality Pac Man wavs or mp3s. I'd like to make a disc of the opening theme, etc. -- basically all of the effects heard in the original song.Depending on your sound card and the drivers available for it, you could do this in under a minute with MAME. Just set your sound card to record "what you hear", start up a recording program, then fire up MAME.
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8k Atari Pac-Man
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I have to ask a stupid question. What is the bank-switching routine to use on the Cuttle Cart 2? I've tried all the obvious ones and most of the others, and so far the game hasn't loaded.
Thanks.