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A brand new generation of players us going to be asked where they learned to fly. Amazing! But T2K makes this a tempting purchase. I'm thinking Blue Lightning will be here?
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On 4/25/2022 at 2:29 PM, jgkspsx said:
If the only thing that survived from the VCS was the classic controller, with support for all the modern consoles, I would be very happy with that outcome. As the Frank’s Red Hot slogan goes, I’d put that $&%! on everything.
Absolutely. Release a pair of the new controllers with 20 classic games for Xbox, and as long it's priced right I'd jump on it. You could even release future games as DLC.
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22 hours ago, roots.genoa said:
The real question is was the Atari VCS "on the market" to begin with? I mean it's available to buy, sure, but it barely exists.
I don't even feel like Atari really acknowledges its existence. Recharged games get extra features on the VCS, but it's not like the trailers insist on it for instance. It's just a logo among others on the ending screen.
I think there's a lesson to be learned here - buying an IP and putting out an old product doesn't mean the company is back. Most of us already knee this, but some did not, as evidenced by the ongoing Amico slog.
It's an interesting product for what it is, but you hit the nail on the head. Getting a system released is the starting point, not the finish line.
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On 4/6/2022 at 4:58 PM, jeremiahjt said:
I am going to go out on a limb and say probably 90% of the people saying the VCS was a PlayStation 5 killer were probably either straight up trolling or at the very least joking around. Heck, it might even be 99%.
There were people saying the doubters were going to look stupid and would be scrambling to get one once the system came out and it was apparent how awesome it was. Obviously that was a silly prediction.
It's been an interesting story for sure. Do we know how many systems have been sold?
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50 minutes ago, Flojomojo said:
This does not seem like the kind of move a healthy company would make. Remember how the shamwow guy used to come in here and (falsely) brag about how Amico was the only game console sold with 2 controllers?
Wasn't the whole selling point of this thing that it was bringing back couch coop? So you'd essentially need the 2 controller bundle to use the system as designed. Yeah...340 bucks is DOA territory for this.
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18 hours ago, Flojomojo said:
All this speculation is pointless. Their former CEO and current president has thousands of posts on here. Surely he could come out and explain himself, even if the answer is “this is a very difficult update to write.”
@Tommy Tallarico do you have anything to say to your adoring public here?
If he doesn’t show up, not saying anything still makes a statement.
He had his own private thread where non - Kool-aid drinkers weren't welcome. Any kind of critical thinking was discouraged, because it was a "fun thread."
That's the thing about egomaniacs, they tend to surround themselves with people who will feed their massive egos. No, he's not going to come back when his private safe space is gone and people can freely call him out. This is a guy who manipulated small time YouTubers into committing channel suicide to run propaganda for a failed project. There's no reason to think he'll ever face the music and admit his wrong doing.
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27 minutes ago, IMBerzerk said:
Just heard on my local AM radio news channel on the way into work...
Due to the new Covid variant, lock downs in China and other global issues. Chip orders are now backed up to minimum 6 months!
So there's the out for them. It was all because of chip wait times and shortages.Except the software isn't ready either.
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3 hours ago, Beatley82 said:
I mean, ok if that was your experience. But it wasn't mine or any of the people I played with well into the 2000s and beyond. The PlayStation 1 and 2 era were hugely social, in a "sitting round in the same room playing way" in a way that consoles still are today. There were always people who preferred or maybe even had no choice but a single player experience and there has always been software to cater for that. Intellivision have seemed very keen to push the narrative that local multiplayer was all but wiped out. Hence people trotting out things like "finally something to bring the family together in the same room again". It's disingenuous.
Yeah, we had 2 tvs and 2 PS1s linked together to play Test Drive 4. And of course we had an N64 that got plenty of play time with Golden Eye and Mario Kart. When the Wii rolled around, I'd argue couch co-op was even bigger.
But all of this is a moot point. The big 3 don't label each other as dens of Satan. They build hype by showing their own products. The fact Intellivision takes the former route says volumes about their product, and what they think about it.
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1 hour ago, Rev said:
Im going to be captain obvious here, and probably be labeled as a hater, even though i wanted Amico to be successful and still do. I am a life long Intellivision fan as many here are, NOT a “hater”.
We are just about 18 months past the original launch date, which means about 2 years past when the system, Operating System, launch window games, and online store etc should of been done.
Why is the OS backend/online stuff still being talked about, when the console delay was always do to a few key parts.
Team Intellivision Entertainment if you are reading this, and im 100% sure you are, please give peoples refunds back that they have requested, some are over 3 weeks. You guys are giving the “haters” ammunition to keep calling this out as a scam.
It doesn't matter what ammo they give anyone. The Smart Engine campaign was a last ditch effort. They were aiming for 5 million dollars. They got around 50K. There just isn't the volume of supporters necessary to get this thing off the ground, and support it. There's no angel investor. If you had 5 million dollars to invest, would you sink it into the Amico after seeing that SEC report, and how little public support there was for the SE campaign?
If Intellivision is smart...they focus on getting the controllers working well, and then bundle them with games and release them as a package for existing consoles. That's the way forward. Maybe they can additional games in bundles as DLC packs in the future. The Amico in its current format is a non-starter.
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On 1/28/2022 at 12:01 PM, Austin said:
They did fix and have already stated it was a mistake.
Also, RetroArch apparently doesn't require dev mode. There's another way to get it loaded.
Yes, there's a Discord server where you can get white listed, and download Retroarch. For what it's worth, anything newer than Saturn/PS1 is a real crap shoot.
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I'd largely forgotten about the VCS until the Soulja Boy story popped. As someone who never thought this thing would see the light of day, here's my take:
The people who bought it seem to be happy with it. Maybe they are fanboys who are blinded by brand loyalty, but does it matter? They are happy with their purchase.
In terms of the system being dead, I'm not sure it ever had a chance to live. I don't think it was ever going to sell much beyond the pre-orders. I mean, the game library is pretty underwhelming, especially for the price. THAT BEING SAID...
This might be blasphemy to some on this site, but if I had to choose between the VCS and the Amico, I'd take the VCS in a heartbeat. The Amico games shown so far are even more unappealing to me, and the VCS can be used as a fairly competent emulation device, if I needed another one of those. I never thought I'd say positive things about this system, but here we are.
Strange times for the games industry.
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7 hours ago, leech said:
I got some new games for it. Unsung warriors seems pretty sweet actually. Guntech is interesting.
But hey, I buy ridiculous and stupid shit all the time. Like I now own multiple 800XLs because they have different keyboard types...
By all accounts, the system is a pretty competent emulation device, apparently running PS and maybe even Game Cube games. There are plenty of other devices on the market that can do this, but for the money, it doesn't sound terrible.
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On 5/5/2021 at 12:17 PM, godslabrat said:
Well, at this point, they're making a major accomplishment by just proving they have the right to do business in the state of California. So... yeah, they're setting the bar damn low.
It's a shame, because even without FPGA this could have been a good product. But the price and incompetence are just too much. I find it hilarious they're talking about a digital store for this thing.
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On 2/6/2021 at 12:21 PM, godslabrat said:
I'm sure they're still getting some orders, but I strongly suspect that new orders are now outpaced by refund requests.
Polymega is *out* of time.
Yeah. By the time the Polymega has a general release it should be easy enough to walk into a store and buy an Xbox Series X, take it home and slap in Retroarch.
I like the Polymega, but like you said, they're out of time. The price is also a real problem if you want to play carts.
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16 hours ago, godslabrat said:
Well, to be fair... the Polymega is aiming to play games people actually care about. I think that's why P&I gave it a pass for so long.
Supposedly the processor in the unit reaches its EOL this summer. That's a real problem if true.
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So if you don't care, why bother staying active in the thread? Why check all those sites? When I don't care about something, I simply skip the threads because who has time to read all that? If you're convinced it's going to flop, why not let it flop on its own without trying to convince people not to buy it?
Speaking for myself, I comment and follow the saga because I'm interested in the mess, and erratic behavior of certain backers.
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20 minutes ago, Atarick said:
True. And it overheats, the controls lag, there are glitches all over, and the software is laughably incompatible with 3rd party titles. Also, Nintendo has essentially given up on support for it. They are as guilty of what Atari SA are (marketing a flawed device on brand name recognition), the only difference is they had a broader and more mainstream target audience.
Uh...software is incompatible with 3rd party titles? What does this even mean? About the only bad thing I can say about the Switch is the stick drift. Considering I have to buy a new Xbox One controller every 6 - 8 months for the same reason, this doesn't seem to be a Nintendo specific issue.
I get that you like the VCS. Fine, but trying to justify its..."feature gaps" by making the Switch look bad is a terrible strategy.
And while I'm posting, claiming that people make posts bashing the VCS proves there isn't a lack of interest in the system is disingenuous. The drama and mental gymnastics supporters engaged in was very interesting. The actual product, not so much. Now that it's out, it begins its slow march toward obscurity. People who have it may enjoy it, and will continue to enjoy it. That's cool. But as far as hype goes, it peaked when it actually shipped. That's the reality.
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On 1/3/2021 at 2:15 PM, godslabrat said:
Last I heard, you could either order from Polymega themselves, or another online retailer, but no one has committed to stocking it in B&M stores.
Even giving this project an unhealthy dose of optimism, I think you'll see covid shipping issues go away long before Polymega is available at your local McGameShop.
That's too bad, because I could see this being an impulse buy for some people, especially if they knocked 100 bucks off. I've got a fair amount of Saturn and PS1 games that I'd play if I didn't have to dig the systems out. But the communication has been terrible about this thing. This system seemed amazing to me when I first heard about it. Since then, other products have come out that made this not the Holy Grail it used to be.
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43 minutes ago, Chopsus said:
I don’t think Playing Roms can actually be done yet? Has anyone got Retroarch or similar running on it? FArtari’s love of litigation in protecting (what they claim is) their I.P. would tend toward prohibiting this?
All in all making Raspberry Pie a better option still.
Well, isn't the Atari Vault just a collection of roms? In any event, you should be able to run Retroarch or any emulator through Sandbox mode.
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41 minutes ago, Stephen said:
I'll admit I am surprised they actually managed to release something. I will also say, that while the product is not for me, and I have bashed it worse than any dead horse, I am glad that it seems to be making the people who backed it happy. I won't deny anybody their fun - after all, video games are just that - games.
That being said, I'll not be able to stop talking smack about this turd
Yeah, I didn't think it would ever be released either. I don't think it's anything special, and I can't see it being a commercial success, but most of the new owners seem happy with it. Of course, if I waited so long for something that people said would never come, I would certainly appear happy as well.
Are the backers going through a honeymoon phase that won't last? Considering how little you can actually do with the system, and playing roms of 40 year old games isn't exactly new or exciting, I suspect so. But for now they're happy, so good.
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3 hours ago, youxia said:
The whole talk about the "brand" is fairly depressing. What brand? We all know what "Atari" is these days, and it's not only an unpleasant association, but also an empty husk - a stamp on some documents given in exchange for a financial gratification, completely without substance or continuity. Real Atari has been dead for decades and it's quite sad that this kind of zombie "branding" can be used to flog all kinds of stuff.
The collecting angle also stinks. Sure, people will buy it just for that reason and most likely sell with a little bit of profit years later, but, again, it just seems so...desperate. Manufactured pre-collecting of phantom brands, like something out of Dick's novel.
We go through the same thing every couple of years when people petition Sega to make a Dreamcast 2. Even if Sega somehow did make a new console, they're not the same company they were 20 years ago, so why bother? Nostalgia is a powerful thing, but it's not always grounded in reality.
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Any word on this being sold in brick and mortar stores? I'd love to get one when it comes out, but I don't want to mess with the nightmare that is present day shipping.
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1 hour ago, MrBeefy said:
I don't think that some get this. Why should I buy a VCS over a cheaper form factor PC/laptop that is cheaper and more powerful? If the answer is Atari, logo, nice case, that is not a compelling arguement.
I have no problem with some French company owning the title Atari. I do think it has been pretty sad how they've handled things. This isn't the great comeback story that some would like you to think it was.
Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Look at the mini consoles. Just about everyone knows you can emulate those games for free on a PC. But that didn't stop people from losing their minds when the NES Classic was released. I would argue that for some people, it's not about the games, it's about taking a step back in time.
I imagine it's something similar for the VCS fans. It's an emotional thing, and you can't put a price on that. That being said, if you don't have that attachment, this system has nothing to offer you, just like my kids make fun of my Sega Genesis Mini, calling it a "Boomer system."
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4 hours ago, MrBeefy said:
VCS supporters should really be enjoying themselves right about now!
Or maybe not...
Isn't he the one always complaining about "entitled babies" who are tired of waiting?
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Intellivision Amico’s trademark changed to ‘abandoned’
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Don't rule out them being both. I don't know why the FCC certs are even a topic of discussion. We're all adults here. It's the end of the line for Tommyvision and the Tallamico. They need a lot of money to get the job done, and they have no sources of revenue. They're done.