crunchysuperman

Wow, that's cool - the guy obviously has no clue what he has there! It's good to see another one surface, and the label is in better shape than mine as well! Hmmmm, now do I need a matching pair?

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Same school of thought as all those "HUGE lot of (5) 2600 cartridges!!!" auctions I suppose.

I have Indy 500 & Star Ship carts with such variations as well. I'd also like to know the story behind these. But then, I'd like to know the story behind all of Atari's oddball label variations.

Well, my cheap digital camera just won't focus properly up that close But no, it's not a proto board that's pictured in that link. It's tan with longer edge connections than most carts, but after some cleaning I noticed there is some green down at the bottom. Checking out my Atari original numbered carts, some of those are like this as well. However, none of my Space War or Space Combat cartridges have this style PCB inside.

Yeah, I thought about peeling up a sacraficial combat or pacman to find out when I was doing this.

Ok, here's some cartridge weights: Space Combat, Sears pic 4975106 62.73g Space Combat, Sears txt 4975106 64.04g Space Combat, Sears txt 699812 61.23g Space War, Atari pic 66.01g Space War, Atari txt 63.91g Space Combat, Atari txt 68.45g So it is definately the heaviest version, but they all seem to vary quite a bit. All these cartridges have locking dustcovers, so the shell should be the same weight. Pushing back the dustcover reveals that there definately is a different pcb inside this cartridge. All these other versions are green/white with shorter edge connections, but this one appears brown with long edge connections. Batteries died in my camera, but when I can get a shot of it, I'll put it up. I did go ahead & get some scans done. Notice the red border bleeding in "behind" the silver border on the left side of the end label. It's printed that way - it's not written on or altered. I'm gonna be modding my 7800 to dump roms - I'll put this one up when I do.

By that way of thinking, why bother getting a silver Gravitar in addition to a red one? After all, as you say, it's only a label variation. For that matter, aren't all but 3 of the Sears titles just Atari games with different labels? Why get a Xonox single-ender if you already have the same game on a double-ender? Why bother to get both the standard & beveled US Games cartridges? In the end, isn't what we're doing collecting the cartridges and not just games? We could play the rarest of the rare on emulators all day long if it were only about the games.

Ahh, welcome to my insanity - the wonderful world of Atari re-release labels! The AA database is very incomplete when it comes to label variations. Try here: http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/cons...variations.html Although it's far from complete, it's about the best we have ATM.

I got an Espial from him a while back. His BIN was way too high, so I emailed him an offer of about half & he took it.

Bare cart weight = 2.5 oz. / 70 grams My scale is digital, but only shows 1/4 oz/5g increments. Crunchy will tell you all about it later this week, I'm sure. Chuck 966278[/snapback] I just weighed two carts -- one a regular Atari 2 digit cart ("11 Indy 500") that weighs 2.3 oz, and a loaner cart I got from Tempest which weighs 3.1 oz. I'm guessing that prototypes were sometimes different weights as they were made with different board/chip combinations. Crunchysuperman can hopefully weigh it again to get a more exact weight. 966429[/snapback] I've got a .01g resolution scale put away somewhere - I'll definately try & dig it up.

I do. Fixed price items are usually too expensive, so I'll keep them on the back burner, hoping to find something cheaper.

It's not going to be on ebay.

My mistake - didn't know that!

Frogger was from Sega Time Pilot was from Centuri (Time Pilot '84 was Konami)

I've bought from him before & seemed pretty solid to me.

Nice find! covet, covet, covet

Ok, I need these too, if they exist.

aye

Dear God!! Why do people even bother taking pictures if all they're going to do is dump out a pile like that?

I like the mosaics he made out of the Pac-Man & Combat carts (other auctions)

Sears text labels: Asteroids ("64" - 4975163) 361 Asteroids ("66" - 4975163) 501 Baseball (4975125) 022 Breakaway IV (4975107) 401 Checkers (4975156) 052 - stamped in the correct corner, but stamped upside-down Dodger Cars (4975158) E511 Maze Mania (4975157) 621 Pong Sports (4975104) 441 Speedway II (yellow 4975103) 501 Tank Plus (4975124) 401 Warlords (no end label copyright 4975127) 441

Here's an '86 orange Breakout with taped out controller misprint. Black tape on an orange cartridge - I love those guys!

Here's mine: Adventure 262 Asteroids 212 Baseball 222 Basketball 262 Berzerk 392 Blackjack 132 Defender (red) 182 Demons to Diamonds 282 Gunslinger 412 Haunted House 182 Math Gran Prix 422 Maze 122 Missile Command 222 Night Driver 222 Outer Space 192 Pac-Man (orange) 132 Race 222 Space COmbat 132 Space Invaders 222 SpeedwayII 222 Star Raiders 402 Stellar Track 222 Warlords 142 Yars' Revenge (orange) 222 22nd week of '82 was a pretty busy week it seems. . . . and no - there's no date stamp on the Superman picture label.