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Are you going to make the retouched files available, or are you just going to sell them?
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I agree. Although, according to mthompson, it seems that it won't be exact, so there may be a telltale sign to tell whether it's a repro or not, but I guess some small text on the back wouldn't hurt.I think you should just to be safe. This is very rare and I'd hate to see someone get ripped off thinking they were buying an original
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Great! I can't wait to see how it turned out.I've spent a lot of time cleaning up the scans in the PDF and am having my local print shop do some test runs. There's still some work do to make the images presentable and eliminate or reduce jpeg artifacts, scanning imperfections, discoloration, missing image area, etc. But the resolution is adequate for printing at full size. It won't ever be perfect, but it should be pretty nice. I'll post pictures soon.
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The most important thing is how high resolution the scanner scanning will go. Odds are, the owner of the document probably didn't try to scan it in at a very low resolution. This may have been the highest resolution possible at the time. I just hope that it can be scanned once more AND that it will hopefully be at least 300dpi.
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I am trying to get a better scan or borrow the doc. Do not hold your breath, though.


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No no no, your image is as large as the original! What I'm saying is that the PDF posted in the other thread was only scanned at 72ppi, and at a lossy JPG format. I think time would be much better spent trying to get better scans of the original (600ppi TIFF of each page) than trying to touch up what is already a bad scan.
If that bad scan is all that ever exists, great! But to me, if the original is still available, I'd want to figure out how to help make proper scans from it instead of spending your time working on an inadequate scan.
EDIT: To further clarify: no, you will not see the dot patterns at 72ppi at all. If you were to print those scans, they'd be very blurry, as they're less than 1/4th the resolution of the original artifact.
Ah... Well, then, we may just have to work with what we have, as the odds of contacting the only 2 people known to have the ability to scan them AND getting them to re-scan it in at a very high resolution are very slim to none.
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It depends on the scan resolution and how fine the process color dot pattern is. Sometimes you will get a moiré pattern that shows you where process colors were used. A spot color, on the other hand, will never show a moiré since there is no underlying dot pattern. The best way is to use a magnifying glass.
Ok. Thanks for the clarification. I just hope that the scan is high resolution enough to see patterns.
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As for printing it on a printing press, there is also the issue of "spot colors" (I used to work at a printing company). You have the normal "process colors", cyan, magenta, yellow, and black, but customers often ask for special "spot colors". A spot color is usually derived from the Pantone list, but there are other sources. In some special circumstances, a spot color can be proprietary: Coca-Cola red and IKEA blue are examples. If you really want a high-fidelity reproduction, one thing to do is get high-magnification scans of the original to look for any spot colors. A spot color will be a solid hue rather than a mix of CMYK dots.
Hmm, very interesting. Are spot colors very obvious on a scan? Or do you have to look very close on the original to notice them?
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Thank you for explaining this to me. Now I understand. If you know what needs to be done, I would be very appreciative if you contributed and made these scans nice and straight. Also, is the PDF too small as TheRedEye stated, or is it usable? If it is, then we may have a very glaring error on our hands.
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Unfortunately the original seems to have been scanned at a teeny tiny 72ppi, you'd need at least 600ppi to restore a scan back to printable quality. I'd work on getting a better read of the original before I spent any time "restoring" what is basically a thumbnail.
Do you mean the image at the beginning of the thread? If so, sorry, I had trouble with posting an image that was the right size to be posted. The originals are much bigger than that.
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It's more likely that some image area was lost when the brochure was scanned. Remember that you'll need extra image extending into the "bleed" area to allow for final trimming to size.
I'm not sure I understand. When I resized the scanned image (which is bigger than all reasonable sizes) to 8.5 x 11, the image became more short than it used to be. No part of the image was missing, it just became a little more wide than long. Now, you are most definitely right about the image could lose a small amount of area, but I'm trying to say that the aspect ratio is slightly different. Also, I know nothing about professionally printing of any sort
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I just scaled the image to 8.5 x 11 and it looked a bit short. A slightly more accurate measurement might be 8.68 by 11.75 inches. this is a bit taller than 11 x 8.5 and is a direct scaling of the scanned image.
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Oh, I didn't know someone wanted to print it. Unfortunately, it seems that BillyBaloney976 hasn't been back on the forum for 2 years, and it seems that KylJoy was only sent the scan rather than doing it himself. Could you resize it after you attempt to restore it, or would that degrade the quality?
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Just out of curiosity, why do you need the size of the brochure?
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Well... according to the program I use, it seems to be 26.37 x 34.16 inches, but I don't know how accurate the scans are in terms of size.
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That would be great! Thanks for your help!

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Wow! These are amazing! Are there any pages in the brochure that you think you could try to fix?
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Well, in that case, do you have any experience restoring documents or photos digitally? If not, could you point someone in the right direction?

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Sorry if I didn't make this clear in my first post, but the brochure was scanned in and available for download here: http://atariage.com/forums/gallery/album/1732-intv-iii-brochure/and here: http://www.intellivision.us/Intellivision_III_Brochure.pdf as a pdf. I had no part in scanning this. All that I ask is for someone to go through the full brochure and make it look good as new.
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After recently browsing a thread about someone finding an Intellivision III brochure from Winter CES 1983 (http://atariage.com/forums/topic/242701-discovered-a-brochure-in-my-fathers-stuff/page-1), I noticed many people saying that they wanted him to scan it in so they could restore it. After the thread starter stopped responding, and when KylJoy presented a scan that he did of someone else's brochure, I still couldn't find anyone who had attempted to restore it. So, I decided to step up to the challenge and try my hand at restoring the front page, mostly because I thought it would be easy and I really liked the look of it. I am posting this mainly to draw the attention of someone who's better at photo editing and digital restoration than I am to properly give this the restoration it deserves, to preserve the history and the thought of what could've been that it carries.
PS, sorry if this post sounds weird, I'm new to using forums
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