Junie

I must agree with Lemmi, Lost Monkey, ATARIPITBULL, Matthew Vigor, Moycon, Liveinabin, etc. -- What does any of this Nintendo bashing have to do with the Atari 2600? This is nothing more than what is comming refered to as a troll on newsgroups and is only a pest.

quote: Originally posted by Chuck Gill: Junie, MojoFLTR called it. I made the cart after Paul posted the Combat Rock bin. I did find the casette at goodwill on Friday. Then I made the label for it on my trusty (yet inexpensive) lexmark. I guess I'll have to find a balogna graphic. -Chuck I never knew that it was a new homebrew. Last I heard from that message thread was that everyone thought it was fake due to the different fonts in the title, but I never seen anyone say anything else. Perhaps I should have paid more attention to the message thread after the first few messages Well at least now I know Combat Rock is a new homebrew, guess I learn something new every day. I myself have a Lexmark printer, mine is a Z11. I got it for free from a computer place called TNT Computers. They got it on a trade-in and it had some problems. I took it home got the driver software from online, I used a power supply I had loose for it, and pulled in the printer cord. All that was wrong was whoever owned it tried to refill the ink cartridge. They didn't put the top of the refilled cartridge on very good and ink spilled and dried everywhere, when the power was turned on it just made noises and couldn't more. After talking it completely apart and over an hour of cleaning the dry ink, I had a great working printer. I taped the top of the ink cartridge back on good and tight and it was still full of ink Now I have used up almost all the ink, perhaps I will buy one of those $10 refills for it-- they seem to work great

Sounds to me like the switch is gone bad, which they do. You will need to either keep using the switch as it is until it quits working all together or go ahead and replace it now. After looking through my Radio Shack catalog to be sure, Radio Shack does not sell a replacement switch. I do know of a few various places that sell switches that are very close to Atari 2600 switches, perhaps even the same. The only problem is the $20 minimum order, the switches themselves cost about $3.00 I'll see if I can find somewhere else for you to get one if you want me to.

Bump Does anyone else have any feedback or ideas about my questions? Anyone else think this is interesting, doesn't seem to be any interest for it here. Perhaps I should put a few up on eBay to see what everyone else thinks

So what's going on Chuck did you actually find this or have you been playing with your printer? Moycon likes to do spoofs with PCB's and screen shots, the bolgana sandwich gives him away If this is an actual find perhaps some small pirate company did a few and didn't get anywhere with them like they had hoped. The font on the cartridge label is even different than the other Combat Rock label I seen in another post.

quote: Originally posted by Albert: Let's see, how about Pac-Man as an example. It was released for the following classic systems: Atari 2600, 5200, Atari 8-bit, Intellivision, ColecoVision, TI 99/4a, Vic-20, Commodore 64, Apple II, and probably others. That's a good number of screenshots, and you'd also want a shot of the original arcade game as the benchmark to compare all the others to. This could be a fun little project.. ..Al Pac-Man was also released on the Sega Genesis system. I seen the game cartridge while thrifting recently it was bundled with a Sega Genesis system for $20 I passed on it but I'm having second thoughts now. I don't have much use for yet another Genesis system, I own 2 now, but I knew at the time the game was rare and it is. I have seen the game listed for $20+, if I managed to get some money back from selling the system at eBay it wouldn't have been so bad. I might have to go see if they still have it, hopefully they do and lower the price of the system as well

quote: Originally posted by marialover: the catalog it self is big, it's about a quarter inch thick and has everything wico has to offer in it. it does not have prices in the catalog itself but it has this additional magazine looking thing thas about 18 pages long that has all of the prices in it sorted by page and part No. they have the prices seperate so they can send you new prices as enough of them change! how to get a catalog? do what I did, have it shipped to your work, if you can of course. if you can't have it shipped to your house but list some fuddey duddey company name so they ship it to you. The arcade I'll go to is a Movie theater it's a brand new one 25 huge screens it ran by Century Theaters I dont think they will be closing any time soon. as for tokens, I went out and got the size and orderd them today. Of course I wouldn't do somthing stupid like take in buckets full like that. No, I'm gonna take in two three pockets full. it dosent matter, when I go there and buy em I stick em in my pocket so whos to say they arent theirs? and the design is exactly the same!!!!!! so they have no way to argue! Well printing the prices on a seperate list is a great idea. Are the prices anywhere at the website, finding items is easy enough but I have never found prices at their website. I actually own a legal business now, so no need to send it to work or anything. When I request before I didn't, I request a catalog a few days ago. I registered my business Junies Creations over 2 years ago. I have a business license, my mail box accepts mail to my company name, and I even have a business credit card (It's thru PayPal though so there are no large credit limits or anything). As my business name suggests "Creations" I buy and create items. For example my Atari 2600 hardware. I decided to get a actual business that way I can order my parts and everything at wholesale prices. I didn't figure you would take buckets of tokens to the arcades, but I have seen people do even sillier things before Well if the arcade you go to was anything like the one we had in my area they watched people. So if I came in and only used the change machine once and played for countless hours, and repeated this for several days I know they would catch on. I wish you luck not being caught, I'm not sure what they could do if they did find out. [ 02-18-2002: Message edited by: Junie ]

quote: Originally posted by Mountain King: I bought Krull at a local flea market and it looked like it was set on fire or was in a fire. It actually worked eventhough it was melted. Perhaps you should give it a new life and remove the PCB from the Krull case and stick it in a empty Combat case. Then print out a quick label and put on the case so you know what it is. I personally haven't seen or gotten anything that bad. If the price was right I'd get it though

quote: Originally posted by Albert: This sounds pretty interesting, I like the idea of using a joypad controller on the 2600. Sounds like a lot of work to modify each 2600 and the NES controllers, though. Would be nice if there was some way to use controllers from other systems without having to make any changes to the controller itself. For instance, it would be cool to use the extra buttons on a Sega Genesis controller for the select, reset, and difficulty switches. Those are 9-pin already, although I assume that some work would need to be done on the 2600 end to use those extra signals (I have no idea what the differences are electrically between Genesis and 2600 controllers, especially as it pertains to those extra buttons on the Genesis pads). Being able to use unmodified Genesis controllers would allow you to use all the third-party sticks and pads that came out. One advantage to not having to modify the controllers is that should anything happen to a controller you can easily replace it. I imagine NES and Genesis controllers are easy to come by these days. Of course, this wouldn't give you the nice microswitches you're putting in. Keep in mind that some people might not like those since they're a bit noisy (Epyx 500XJ comes to mind). I look forward to seeing the updated pages when you're all done. Please keep us posted! ..Al It takes on average somewhere around 2 hours to do the modifications to the Atari 2600 system and the 2 controllers. I am hopeing to greatly reduce the time by making everything in steps and have a small stockpile of the necessary parts ready to be soldered in. I personally own REV. 1 of my 15-Pin controller ports and controllers, to say the least I love using the Joypad controllers. I like the response time and ease of use, not to mention the system switches on the Joypad-- I can restart the game and everything while still sitting in bed Using unmodified controllers would be great, but is impossiable. There are a total of 14-Pin connectors needed to wire everything up, and many of them require a SPST switch the momentary buttons will not work. For example Left Difficulty, Right Difficulty, and TV Type. Getting a replacement 15-Pin controller is easy, either buy them direct from me or build them from my instuctions. I also plan to make brand new 15-Pin controllers in the future. I am still trying to find a material to make them from easily and inexpensively. So far Polyurethne Resin seems to be the best material, but shatters when dropped so I am trying to find a way to fix this or find a better material. Concering the micro-switches and some people don't like the sharp click sound, micro-switches come in two varieties. There are the standard micro-switches which make no sound when pushed, then there are tactile micro-switches. So I can put the micro-switches in that will and will not make any sound. I am not sure rather or not to make it an option for people when they order to specifiy if they want the standard or tactile (sharp click sound) micro-switches. I myself like the sharp click sound of the tactile micro-switches, so I guess I will need to make this an option when ordering. I will keep everyeone updated by posting information here at AtariAge, and if there is any interest shown on the StellaList there as well. Currently the price is estimated at $40 - $60 for the parts and a small profit for me, not counting the Atari 2600 system and shipping. I am still looking at different parts suppliers to see if I can lower the price in time for sales. Being at a lower price will also help make this custom system a bigger success. I'll post some new pictures once I convert my personal Atari 2600 from the REV. 1 into the 15-Pin REV. 2 model. Also I thought I might mention that I plan to also sell my other custom hardware items, and a few hardware items which are hard to find. The current count is around 14 different hardware items. I'll start to offer these as well once I have my custom system ready for sales.

quote: Originally posted by NE146: huh? Didn't Moon Patrol only have 2 levels? Not unless you could only get to the 2nd level I myself haven't been able to pass the 3rd level like many other people here.

I'm glad to see that you are happy MoonlightKnight about winning the auction, that's all that matters I myself have never spend more $30 at one time for anything yet-- And the $30 was for 25 games from a single eBay auction

quote: Originally posted by liquid_sky: Sounds very cool.. do you have any photos? If you do sell, whats the price range? The only pictures I have right now are in my REV. 1 instructions at my website, here is a link to them http://jove.prohosting.com/~junies/atari/15pin/ I am still trying to work out a price, because so many sites sell Atari 2600's at different prices it may vary whenever a site runs out of Atari 2600 4 Switches. The best I have found so far has been $40 for a 4 Switch system, but they only have 2 of them. I will also do the upgrades to anyone's system who ships it to me. Shipping will cost about $14 here in the US to me and back (both ways), and that is cheaper than a $40 system plus shipping to me and then to who buys one. It will cost somewhere around $40 - $60 for the parts with a small mark-up (profit), plus the cost of the Atari system and of course shipping. If anyone actually has a small stockpile of Atari 2600 4 Switches (Woodgrain or Black, doesn't matter) or standard NES controllers or knows who does please let me know. [ 02-17-2002: Message edited by: Junie ]

quote: Originally posted by Fretwobbler: Has anybody ever got past the third level? I'd find it very difficult to believe if they have. The 3rd level is the level with the landmines right? Is so that is as far as I can get myself. Best I have done is get half-way thru the landmine stage

My new Atari 2600 15-Pin controller ports and controllers has been updated, REV. 2 In the new version I have added the Left Difficulty and Right Difficulty switches, and have the Booster Grip buttons added to the controllers. Also I updated how the wiring is done on the connectors to add room for the new switches and to make the wiring overall better. The only switches left on the Atari that is not connected to the controller ports is the Power ON/OFF switch and the Channel switch-- neither of which is of any use on the controllers, so they will never be added. The pinout for the 15-pin controller ports have changed as well, there was no way around it. So if you did the original 15-Pin REV. 1 you will have to do some wiring updates to your system and controllers for the new version REV. 2 I haven't updated the instructions yet at my website, 15-Pin Instructions, I will when I get the time-- It takes quite a while to take the and edit the pictures and write everything out Also I am in the process of getting everything set to actually manufactuor the 15-Pin system and controllers for sell. The Atari 2600 system will be the 4 Switch model that will have a laminated overlay on the switch area (That says Power On/Off, TV Type, etc.- It will cover the entire area until the sides) and included will be: - Power supply - Standard or Cable RF switch box - (2) 9-pin to 15-Pin adapters (So you can use your other Atari 2600 controllers) - User Manual The 15-Pin NES brand controllers will use micro-switches, instead of the standard PCB switches. The controllers can also be painted 9 different colors, and will have a new laminated overlay where the current NES one is (It is the area that tells you what buttons are what,etc.) On the laminated Laser Color printed overlays that will be on the system and controllers they will show what each button is, and include my logo, a custom background, and a name.. I am thinking of using Ultimate 15 VCS or something. I know the name Atari is owned by Infogames, but is VCS, 2600, or any other "names" also owned by Infogames? If anyone thinks they have a better name for my custom system than Ultimate 15 VCS post it here I am also debating rather or not to include Custom Cooler fan inside the Atari 2600. The fan blows thru the speaker area holes in the case (In the multiple ridge area on the Atari). It will switch On and Off with the Power ON/OFF switch. The fan will help keep the Atari cool during use, especially game marathons I'm not sure if it is really needed, but it may help make the Atari live longer than normal-- which is still unknown, they are still going Anyone have any questions or suggestions for my custom system/controllers? I plan to start selling these sometime in the next month or two. I also would like to point out I am not going to try and market this as a "new" system or anything like that. It is simply a heavily modified Atari 2600. I will make sure that included in the User Manual and with the information to sell them that it is clearly stated that this is not a new system and simply a heavily modified Atari 2600. Here is the controller port/controller pinout so you can see what is all here: 15-PIN JOYSTICK PINOUT REV. 2 pin # Joystick 1 Up 2 Down 3 Left 4 Right 5 Booster Grip #1 6 Fire(button) 7 +5 8 Ground(-) 9 Booster Grip #2 10 TV Type (SPST Switch) 11 Game Select (Momentary Switch) 12 Game Reset (Momentary Switch) 13 Left Difficulty (SPST Switch) 14 Right Difficulty (SPST Switch) 15 NC Of course any other standard controller will work with this as well, including Paddles, Driving Controllers, Keypads, Video Touch Pad, etc.-- You just have to plug them into the standard 9-Pin controller ports, or wait until I release new updated controllers of them as well [ 02-17-2002: Message edited by: Junie ]

I would love a copy of it as well, it would be great to see Joe Decuir and everything let along the Atari programing information. After all I haven't had a chance to go to the expo's and conventions yet and meet any of the original Atari people. I have the same problem as Atari-Jess currently so I will have to get back with you later to order one.

I might make custom PCB's in the future, only 4K as I know nothing about making the bankswitching. I would have them done commercially though I wouldn't make them, this would insure high quality and be made for about the same price without me having to spend so much time and effort on it when I don't have to. If I ever do make PCB's it will because no one else offers them, for example Activision PCB's-- Or perhaps I would make the Atari brand PCB as well if I ever sell large amounts of games from my publishing service to help lower the cost for game authors. I highly recommend that everyone buy new custom 4K Atari brand PCB's from Joe Grand. He is a great guy and offers them in discount buying depending on the quanity that is ordered. You can buy PCB's from Joe for as low as $1.00 each. [ 02-17-2002: Message edited by: Junie ]

I think that is a great idea you got there. Perhaps someone, or some fellow Atarians, should start such a thing. Finding some company to make the patches shouldn't be very difficult. The only problem would be a source of revenue to cover the cost of the free patches. I imagine there are other ways to avoid the score editing by only allowing actual film pictures to be mailed in (The image must show the TV as well, that will avoid taking pictures of a PC monitor).

quote: Originally posted by King Atari: Speaking of newer style SNES, does anyone remember the newer style NES? I found an NES timeline, and it has no mention of it. I can't find the system anywhere, is it pretty obscure? Yes I remember it very well, my wife's brother owns one. I have seen them sell for $80 - $120+ quote: Originally posted by GOAT Dan: That, in my opinion is the best way to do it. While I have some rare items (2600 Ram It, NES Tengen Tetris) they aren't in very good condition, but it doesn't matter - I can play them. Likewise, perhaps my favorite game in my collection is Super Mario Bros. 3, which was the first game I ever bought on the day that it came out. It isn't rare, but I still will sit down and play the whole game through from time to time because it is so great. You are my kind of player, if the game works then that's all that matters. Of course if the label is in excellent conditon, with box and/or manual that's just a added bonus I still have my Mario Bros. 3 that I bought new in the store as well, still play it too With all the talk about Little Nemo: The Dream Master, I had to play it. I played the game this morning and beat the game. I always use my Game Genie (Game Genie or GameShark with my other systems as well) whenever possiable. I think when you don't have to worry about running out of lifes and stuff, it makes the game more fun and enjoyable-- You get a chance to explore more and take chances, or do silly things to see what will happen

quote: Originally posted by Albert: I'll have to purchase these. I'm not sure I'd want to put the SAMS manual online, since they're still in business and may not look too favorably on it. Although who knows, maybe they'd grant us permission to put it online--it's not like it'll ever be a source of potential revenue again for them. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it! ..Al I'm not sure about everyone else, but you would have my eternal thanks for putting the manual online here at AtariAge! Albert once the manual has been scanned would you or anyone else be able or want to put it on a CD and sell it to me for a fee? I think that scanning the manual is a large undertaking and I should show my gradatue for it, I have a few ideas I'll see what you would prefer later on.

quote: Originally posted by marialover: i just got my 2002 catalog from WICO, I plan on building some really cool joysticks. and maybe converting sevral systems into a single coin-op looking cab. and i noticed the generic tokens they sell, they are very cheap, cheaper than the local arcade. I think I'll buy a couple hundred for a few bucks! So WICO does have a actual catalog then, I have requested it serveral times and the only thing I ever receive is a 4 page flyer mostly without the prices. Does the catalog have the prices listed or do you have to call to find out the prices? Have any recomendations on how I can get an actual catalog from WICO? If do get the arcade tokens, be sure not carry buckets of them into the arcades or something silly like that. Take a couple pockets full or something -- I highly doubt the arcade will like you bringing in your own tokens and didn't buy theirs for $0.25 each. Of course if you keep up buying and taking your own tokens, the arcade may end up closing due to lack of income. All the arcades in my area closed due to the very small amount of people who used them besides me.

Thanks for the tip, that's a more reasonable price. Does the Atari 2600 Field Service Repair Manual not exsit currently online? I think that is rather odd, you can find just about everything Atari 2600 related online, but not this. Why isn't it online, no one bothered to do it yet or is there another reason?

quote: Originally posted by GOAT Dan: I don't want to sound negative, but the rarity of Little Nemo is really quite overstated. While it is a good game and all, I come accross it all of the time through the GOAT Store. Someone should really write a new NES rarity guide... one which doesn't list Stadium Events as a B+ too (perhaps the rarest mass-released NES game). I really don't care about the rariety of any game, I buy games simply to play not because they are rare. So no matter if it is rated a F or an A, I got it to play Then again I buy anything video game related as long as the price is good, that's how I have games for 11 different systems, and only own 9 different systems (With many system repeats, for example I own 3 SNES systems-- 2 of the standard and 1 of the newer style).

quote: Originally posted by MoonlightKnight: Hey Junie, I have a question about this. Do you think it would be possible for you to make the boards to fit an Activision cart instead of Atari? I always liked the Activision style carts and, if I ever make a game, would want it in one. Activision carts, IMO, just seemd to have more style Digging up old posts, eh? I would agree, I originaly thought about making them to fit the Activision cases. I even took apart my very bad half missing labeled, Kaboom game to study the inside of the Activision case and PCB. The answer is Yes. They could be made to fit into the Activision cases, but I don't have much interest in doing it. Eveyone seems to like the Atari brand labels and everything better. Not to mention that some poor Activision games would have to be killed for their cases, so why not use the Atari brand game Combat? I planned on making the PCB's by hand myself, and I don't want to get into doing that when Atari brand PCB's can be bought brand new commercially made for $1.00 I was also playing with the idea of Activision PCB's when I was trying to get brand new cases made, which I am still trying to do. Perhaps once new cases are able to be made, I'll have the inside of the Activision case changed to the Atari brand, that way Atari brand PCB's will fit.

What the auction has is simply a 12' RCA plug cable which costs about $3 - $5, with a RCA to Cable adapter that can be bought at Radio Shack for $3.00 Then some photo copied pages that appear to be from the Atari 2600 Field Tech Manual, or someother publication. Copies usually cost $0.10, with 16 pages that's $1.60 Then a CD they burned on their PC, costs about $2 So if you have the materials to do it yourself it will cost you $9.60 - $11.60 to create the items in that auction, less if you buy in bulk. The image quailty will be the same as if you have a Cable ready tv and the Atari hooked to it via a cable switch box or the $3.00 Radio Shack adapter. They included everything else to make you think you are getting something, instead of just a 12' RCA plug cable which costs about $3 - $5, with a RCA to Cable adapter that can be bought at Radio Shack for $3.00 I personally would recoomend you save your money and go buy the $3.00 adapter at Radio Shack and pick up the 12' RCA plug cable at Wal-Mart.

quote: Originally posted by Smart Patrol: I did it on the 5200. My switches are a little too big and were hard to fit, but they work great. I'm sure there are smaller switches out there. I installed them on the fire buttons, start, pause, reset, # and *. -Paul That's great news it is possiable then. Just wondering do you know the size of micro-switches you used? A typical micro-switch is 6 - 7mm