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Don't hate it because it's beautiful; that's my favorite Zelda game.

Are you trying to get rid of these? You have just about every cool game for SNES and Genesis that was made. Instead of getting rid of them, I'd keep them all. As to your question: I've noticed that SNES's go for about $30, and their games go for about $10-$15. Of course, that varies depending on rarity, and I don't think I've ever seen A Link to the Past go for less than 15. Segas are cheaper, for some reason, and I imagine the console would go for about $20, and the games about $5-$10. I'd imagine the SNES stuff would go for around $200 altogether, and the Sega stuff around $150 altogether. Toe Jam And Earl, Vectorman, Super Punch Out, Altered Beast, Killer Instinct: what are you thinking man!? Those are like the greatest games ever conceived!

Yeah, this topic shouldn't be a poll. 915867[/snapback] Why not? I don't want to know your favorite NES game; that would be way too broad a topic, and wouldn't really generate any interesting discussion (not that I really expect this to, I was just curious). I limited the choices to games that have been remade and remade and remade. I think all of the titles up there have had at least 10 variations/sequels since the original. I could list a lot of games that I like better than those, but these are where the video game empire started (in terms of franchises). Cool games like Crystalis or Blaster Master aren't included because they weren't deemed popular enough (for whatever reason) to become a "franchise," or weren't suited for that kind of attention. I know franchise is not really the best word, but I can't think of a better one.

Yeah, I probably should have put Castlevania up there; it's a different enough from Mega Man or Mario to be considered. As for Dragon Warrior, I thought of that as soon as I put up the poll, except Dragon Warrior was so raw when it came out, and Final Fantasy is so much more popular (now), that I went with Final Fantasy. Dragon Warrior was a cool game, and was the first NES RPG that I'm aware of, but the gameplay wasn't anything near Final Fantasy, in that the game came to a screeching halt while you killed enough "MagiDrakees" to be able to defeat the Axe Knight. And Final Fantasy in my mind is more of an RPG because you control 4 characters, as opposed to Dragon Warrior's one. I considered putting Baseball Stars or Tecmo Bowl up there to represent the sports genre, but in my mind, neither of those compare to the franchise "classic" NES games like Zelda or Mario, and aside from Baseball Stars 2 (is there a Super Tecmo Bowl? I can't remember), neither of those franchises went on to do anything special like the other games I included.

Granted, there's more "classic" games than this, and I'm probably leaving out something that should be included, but I don't care. I don't like providing an "Other" option because everyone picks that and replies that their favorite game is some obscure, weird game like "A Boy and His Blob." I tried to include the "Poster Child," if you will, from each [major] genre: Super Mario Bros. and Mega Man are platform, The Legend of Zelda is adventure, Metroid is an action/adventure, Tetris is puzzle, and Final Fantasy is RPG. Oh, and I only included the original game for each series. So if you like Mega Man 2 better than Mega Man (and most people do), pick Mega Man. Same with all the others. I chose these particular games because they have been the most successful/marketable. I base this on the fact that a zillion sequels have been made for each of these, and a zillion clones have been made for each of these as well (i.e. Crystalis is a Zelda clone). They have also endured the test of time, since all of these (I think) were made in the 80's, and sequels have been made for each of these within the last 1-2 years. What do you think?

Well, as I understand it, Mario All-Stars was kind of like a multi-cart, in that it's main shtick was the "Lost Levels," which was Super Mario Bros. 2 (the one that was released in Japan. SMB2 in US was actually Doki Doki Panic in Japan, an entirely different game). The programmers also fixed some bugs in the original NES titles (like the double-jump glitch in SMB2, for instance). As for Zelda, I'm assuming the reason they never rereleased it for SNES or something is because there was no reason to. The game was already essentially perfect (from a programmer's point of view), so there were no bugs that needed fixing. And there wasn't any Japanese-release-only Zelda game that deserved special recognition in the US. This is all speculation, however, I have no definitive idea why Zelda was never re-released.

I know, and I won't.

What? You taped it to your crotch? Interesting strategy, I may have to try taping things to my genitals to get plenty of upgrades.

This should make you feel inadequate: this guy beat it in half an hour.

Uh... the game is already done. You can buy it from this site, so telling him the way things should have been is kind of pointless, and a little bit rude. There was also a 10 page thread that's been going on for the last six months where information like this might have been helpful. And I think vdub_bobby has maintained that the flash games that are floating around on the internet were not to his liking, which is why it is not a direct port of one of them, and which would explaing why he changed some things. And being easy at the beginning and progressively getting harder is pretty much a time-honored tradition of just about every video game on the planet. I don't many games that start off difficult, and I play a lot of video games. It's already pretty challenging because if you get touched by anything, you have to start completely over. Sorry if I sound rude, but it sounds like you're nit picking a game that's already been finished. A lot of people have devoted a lot of time into making these homebrew games, and it sounds like you're unsatisfied. If I misinterpreted what you were saying, I'm sorry.

Maybe he didn't like his job, and liked playing video games. I'd rather play video games than work. Of course, I'd also rather live than play video games, so I think I'm still one step ahead of death.

I'll counter with a vote for "As cool as possible, doing whatever works best for the 2600." 899238[/snapback] I'll second that. True ports are only cool when every feature of the original game was cool. I've never played the original Arkanoid, but I don't think "being faithful to the original" is ever a good reason for porting bad aspects of a game. It's my opinion that you can never go wrong with the phrase "as cool as possible" (especially when coupled with anything involving video games ).

Anybody know about the dead mario trick when defeating bowser (any of the x-4 worlds) If you know what I'm talking about, that's cool, if not, here's what you do (and I've tried and tried, but only managed to pull this off in the original game, the remakes have redone bowsers and the trick seems to not work) Get to the end of the x-4 worlds, again, any of them, and when you come to bowser, let him come to the left side of the screen, he'll come after jumping a few times. Once Bowser goes to the left, if your small, simply go right to the ax (dont' touch it) if your big, touch bowser to get small. Anyhow, once your small, stand next to the ax, it's one block up from the floor, so just go all the way over. And wait for bowser to return. Just as Bowser gets to where he is going to touch Mario, jump streight up. As your coming down, tap right, just slightly. 898012[/snapback] If you do this when you have firepower, you'll end up being able to be small and have firepower (which was one of the glitches I mentioned before). It's pretty hilarious looking, since whenever you shoot a fireball, Mario returns to the large size and then shrinks back down to the little size instantly.

They also fixed the double-jump glitch in SMB2 on All-Stars, as well (or so I've heard, I don't actually own it). Just out of curiosity, can you still do the small and fiery Mario trick on the All-Stars version?

There's also the coin ship, which is almost impossible to figure out how to make it appear. It only appears on some worlds; I forget exactly which ones. For the unenlightened, here's how you do it: if you end a level with a multiple of 11 for your coins (i.e. 77), and you have that same multiple of 11 in the tens column of your points (i.e. 600870, because 77 divided by 11 is 7), then a ship will appear. It's a boring level with a bunch of coins. It's more of the kind of thing to just show your friends, though; not really very useful. This was kind of off-topic, but it's just another cool secret of SMB3.

My personal favorite is FFV. The job system makes leveling up a lot more fun than any of the other games. I've never played Tactics, but I've heard it's similar. I'm partial to the older Final Fantasy's, as they don't have as many annoying cut scenes. Since the story hasn't significantly been changed since the 80's, I don't really want to see boring anime movies explaining to me what's happening. If I want that, I'll go watch the movie, which probably sucks harder than any of us can imagine. 1, 2, and 5 are my personal favorites. 9 was pretty fun, although really easy.

Thanks! Writing music for the 2600 is a bit interesting, and forces creativity down your throat, since you only have certain notes to work with and not all of them are in tune with each other. Kind of a fun challenge, though. I think I actually rewrote each tune about 6-8 times before my brother and I were satisfied. Glad you enjoyed it!

I know, except my main point of this thread was to see what other people thought of the old video game music. I know that as a general rule, the PS and DC are considered "classic," but I didn't want to include them in this thread (although I can't stop people from posting anything they want). On my original post I said pre-PS.

Yeah, sorry. I think FFI and FFII had the same battle music, but most of them had the same victory music. I guess that's OK... True, but FFVII was for PS and FFX was for PS2. Classic, please. If we were considering the modern consoles, with their fancy-pantsy greater-than-16-bit graphics and sound, nobody would vote for the old stuff (except for me).

HeckYesIDid Greetings, Manuel 871880[/snapback] Uh oh, my secret's out. My name's Tommy, but don't steal my identity. And don't judge my brother by his brother.

Castlevania definitely had good music. The first Final Fantasy had good music, but it got old really quick. And it really bothered me that they never really changed the battle music in any of the later FF's. It just got more orchestrated. I was not a big fan of Super Metroid's music. It seemed kind of boring or something, like it was missing something. Maybe I was missing something; it's been awhile. A Link to the Past had some good tunes, although many of them were old LoZ tunes orchestrated. But hey, there's nothing wrong with that.

I don't know if this music was in the original FFV, but the music from the Big Bridge is, in my opinion, the greatest song ever written. I don't have the original FFV, I have the FF Anthology or whatever for PS, so I'm not sure if that tune is on the original.

What's your favorite video game music? We're talking in-game music, not "soundtracks to crappy video game music." And let's not include sound effects, because then we all know Frogger and Arcade Pac-Man would win unanimously. My personal favorites are Mega Man 2 and Crystalis for NES. I also liked the "Base" music in Contra. It had that nice groovy, almost pornographic quality to it that you just don't find in modern games. Oh, and let's keep it classic, as in anything up to, but not including, the Playstation. So, like pre-1995, or whenever the PS came out.

Have you ever played Baseball Stars 2? I think it's exactly the same as Baseball Stars, but with a few extra features. Could be worth checking out if you liked Baseball Stars. And I second Base Wars and Super Spike V'Ball.

You dope, you pick the language at the beginning; German or English! 867445[/snapback] Are you serious?! Well, I only played it once. That game straight up sucked!