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Just now, x=usr(1536) said:
I'm considering this question nonsensical, because it makes no sense.
Welp can't help ya there.
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13 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:
WTF does this have do with 7800 games?
What does kickstarter have to do with gauging the value of doing another Rikki & Vikki production run?
(Please consider this question rhetorical)
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14 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said:
Bummer, would have been a good way for other people to get a copy.
How to gage interest & guarantee production costs are met
I love computers, they're sure good at keeping track of queryable lists and automating the gathering of plausible interest...
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5 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said:
Perhaps he is offering to fund another run of it?
Or not.
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4 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:
So what is the point that you're making?
QUOTE: "Ferrari's are still made. So if you have the money you can buy a Ferrari."
-- Can't buy one of these carts if they're not for sale. I'm thinking about other people besides myself that have interest and share similar interests as me. I'm guessing there was more demand that copies.
8 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:What do you ultimately want to see happen with regard to this game?
I'm not sure I have a huge "want" but a cool idea might be in the future allow a reproduction cart with the permission of the creators of the game. Which I'm sure 5-10 years from now wouldn't be out of the question. Or with the permission of the creators a MiSTer reproduction would be interesting.
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2 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:
And not everyone can drive a Ferrari, either.
Ferrari's are still made. So if you have the money you can buy a Ferrari.
3 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:how is that any different than any other game that was released for multiple platforms at the same time?
The binary is different. The value is the technology. A Win32 binary isn't special.
Why does anyone still love their real retro hardware vs emulation? What it represents makes all the difference and is why a huge volume of people are even here I would imagine.
6 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:As far as I can tell, your main complaint is basically that you didn't jump on it
I don't have a complaint. I'm simply making a conceptual point. No reason to read what I said as negativity. For me its about the interest in preservation of cool technology.
I own the cart & bought it day one.
Here is my copy. Still smells new.
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You're correct that it can't be played on a flashcart, but it can be played on Steam. It's not like the game is inaccessible to anyone who wants to experience it; they just have to do it on a different platform.
The point is it can't be played on Atari 7800 without that cart. Which is the coolest part about it IMO.
4 hours ago, x=usr(1536) said:@TailChao mentioned that future runs may be a possibility. It's not just going to die off, especially with 551 copies spread across the globe
If it stops being made the highly specialized cart dies off over time in any meaningful sense for the majority of people as the practicality of obtaining a copy becomes less and less likely.
Maybe MiSTer can handle such hardware changes in a cart and things become preserved forever that way in a sense. Speeking of I really need to get a MiSTer at some point.
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7 hours ago, Dionoid said:
Before I bought my copy from PenguiNet (in May 2020, after I saw the game on the Atari Homebrew Awards), this listing was already on eBay for at least a few months.
So it's probably not a scalper.Well at this point the value of the cart is a lot higher as they're not made anymore and the ROM can't run on a FlashCart.
Seems like you might be able to keep making them if a pre-order bulk was generated and the assembly was outsourced to people who take a cut. Sad to see such cool & highly specialized creations just die off.
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4 minutes ago, Synthpopalooza said:
Well ... the purpose is NES quality music.
Normally each POKEY has 4 sound channels with only 255 frequency dividers. You can use a square wave but limited range, and tuning errors. Sawtooth wave only allows bass frequencies. Triangle is unusable for music without tricks.
But: You can combine two channels with 16-bit mode! 65,536 frequency dividers. All waveforms can be used musically, and suddenly we get music on a par with the NES and C64 if not better. 4 16-bit channels if you like, or any number of combinations. Add in tricks like SKCTL or hi pass filtering, and you got a monster.
So am I right in assuming that the Concerto cart will only have one POKEY & the Dragonfly might have two (which is whats being tested now)? Allowing the Dragonfly to have up to 8 channels?
Also do only "some" POKEY chips support a 16-bit-rate mode while others only 8-bit? If so I'm assuming both the Concerto & Dragonfly will support these.
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7 hours ago, e5frog said:
It would be really cool having a "Channel SD" cart. There are people with finished solutions, that they aren't keen on sharing (I understand why), selling something like 20 carts a year is perhaps not a market that is tempting to spend time on. Unless you're into the system yourself.
I have been meaning to make a simple dev cart for years that is able to load data via USB and not having to use an eprom programmer and socketed memory... hasn't happened yet even though CAD drawings have been done for several versions. It's mainly a "money for prototyping" problem, which has been tight for the last six years with the wife in school (for adult people).
There's a system for Vectrex identifying a 39SFxxx flashrom as a USB memory which seems interesting.
Instead of the programmer as a separate part it could be built into the cartridge and you'd have a USB connector in the cart.
Borrowed one of them from a friend but haven't had time to spend on it yet.
SD would be really cool though but seems to have a larger threshold.
Interesting... well ya I brought it up having a development cart in mind. So your idea of just loading stuff from a PC into SRAM or something over USB would be awesome (if I got that right?).
Personally don't actually care about the SD part while it is cool & ideal.
To me dev carts are what keep a system open to future possibilities for homebrew thats far cooler than emulation etc.
Or even just the general ability to add new cool future homebrew for general entusists.
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Maybe I'm missing something but whats the purpose of multiple POKEYs?
Advanced Multi-Core audio processing? One for music and one for sound-FX?
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5 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:
Fuck scalpers.
Which is precisely why scalpers can get fucked.
Unless they just realized they would rather have the money over the game I agree.
If you look up RTX 20XX cards they're being scalped like crazy right now and I had plans to get one for D3D12 Raytracing dev.
Scalpers are becoming an increasing problem for sure and XMas time is always the worst for it I think.
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On 11/25/2020 at 12:59 PM, BIGHMW said:
Any copies left of Rikki & Vikki or any more planning to be put out later on? I have heard a lot of great things about this game and am a new owner of a 7800 and wanted to try it out. I plan on reviewing it on the soon-to-be debuting 7800 Edition of The Atari Report and want to make it one of my first cartridge purchases for this much-neglected system in which has seen new life thanks to all of you.
Looks like there is a copy on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rikki-Vikki-Atari-7800/233454635498?hash=item365afb09ea:g:PCAAAOSw5wVdrIYk
Bit pricey there but if you own any game on the 7800 it might just be the best one.
Its a very well made cart.
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I know how to get around it all but I prefer going through the right channels if possible and didn't expect to have this issue.
If I need to give feedback on the FlashCart I will create a new thread or a new account if its critical & there is no new support thread.
I'm expecting everything to be fine but it is nice to share if the need arises.
I'll probably leave my Atari 7800 out while the beta firmware is going on. Excited to try it out with my goto games: Mario Bros., Pacman & Frogger of course.
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25 minutes ago, Omega-TI said:
Know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away...
If we all had the same cards here that analogy might make sense.
I have zero cards here asking those with all the cards if I can get back in the game.
The game is rigged if you can't even pull up your own history to explain yourself or PM someone to privately have a civil explanation and come to a resolution.
English is a messy language and people tend to be unaware of the biases that come along with it hinged largely on association fallacies, character projections and false group identity associations. I would say its related to the difference between how & what to think. Interestingly the same part of your brain that associates bad taste, rot etc with negativity is repurposed as a mental tool in cultural differences and tribalistic tendencies for right vs wrong / bad vs good. Its important to remember we're all human and not without flaws and baggage. If only apathy exists here then to your point 'walking away' is the inevitable outcome. However I'm hoping on the better side of humanity to play a role here.
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5 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said:
Remember when I said that you weren't helping your case? These quotes (and this thread) are examples of that.
So only the arbiters of moral authority here get to collectively ridicule someone but can't be called out on it?
Does that seem right to you?
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36 minutes ago, frankodragon said:
Maybe if you buy Al a new Tesla auto, he'd might consider.
Tribalism is a fascinating topic I must say...
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I would be fine with the cart only if it comes to that. Also fine waiting while you confirm things about your print shop.
Hopefully your Tetris sales get a bump if you offered it a little cheaper without box idk.
Also side thing but out of curiosity what would it take to make a MultiCart into something that loaded ROMs off an SD card?
I feel like those have the most value and I would be very interested in such a device if one was ever made.
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25 minutes ago, Shawn said:
Pretty forward posting in this thread for a guy that says they are looking to make right on their wrongs. I'm wondering how long it will be until you get banned from this thread too. Would be rather ironic, and funny as hell.
23 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said:You were too lazy to read a thread, then snapped at people who called you out for it.
Sick you say? I was moderating AA out of my hospital bed, so cry me a river.
I'm confused... is something wrong with me trying to correct my error?
Where are these odd moral superiority complexes coming from? You have never been in error? Moderating from a hospital bed makes you better than me I guess is your point? I'm sorry you're hurt I would never wish that on anyone but Oppression Olympics seems like an odd form of reasoning.
Yes I was lazy & assumed a 90 page forum I hadn't been keeping much track of didn't offer the solution I was hopping for. My bad I guess.
This however is getting a little ridiculous for something so minor. If we can't all be adults here whatever I guess. I'll just follow the thread signed-out if its that emotionally compromising.
I'm a bit disappointed in humanity right now... sniffle sniffle :(...
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Just now, x=usr(1536) said:
Just curious: do these sorts of things happen to you on a regular basis?
You can straw-man me if you want but in here the answer is no. I've been perfectly civil in these forums until we had our misunderstanding.
I'm sure I missed something in the forum we had our disagreement over and I'm sorry for that. I don't take kindly to be attacked for a simple suggestion though and maybe I didn't grasp the context you were coming from correctly.
Regardless of fault I would like to make peace. I think the minor issue we had is just that... a minor issue and I have no animosity towered you. There was clearly a misunderstanding and I'd like to move past it.
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20 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said:
Too busy with work.
I've been sick dude and had extra time to benge on things.
IDK why you feel its your need to judge how I delegate my time or determine whats going on in my life?
Your projections of me seem a little self-righteous and unfair at this point.
I've done nothing to warrant this level of behavior from a mod and frankly its kind of unexpectable to constantly be ridiculed here for simply expressing a view regardless if I lacked context or not.
I'm happy sacrificing my ego to get along. I'm hopping for a little understanding and less middle-school level bully projection of my character.
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2 hours ago, DarkLord said:
I saw some kits for replacing things like that on the Lynx, I think it was Ebay.
Thanks for the info.
My money would be on caps too. Just make sure you don't rip out traces when you remove the old caps. Most frustrating thing ever.
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On 11/8/2020 at 2:36 AM, e5frog said:
I'm still alive.
Trying to sort out the box print dilemma as described in the Tetris (Videocart 28) thread.Is there a more expensive box printing option you might have to opt into?
I remember the intellivision LTO Flash! box being pretty good. I wonder who he used.
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Hypocrisy is so funny I know, but in all seriousness @CPUWIZ or whoever mods this area is this ok.
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Man I'm torn on what color to choose lol.
I like the "red" but also like having special carts extreme colors so the "pink" is cool too.
Do you have pictures at different angles of the cart?